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Glee Girls Strip Down for GQ, Disapproval Abounds

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I feel like I need to start this post with the disclaimer that I don't watch Glee. And no, there isn't a reason. It actually seems (from what I've heard) like the kind of show I'd probably really like, but somehow I missed it when it began and then it seemed too late to start watching, or something. I clarify my position here just so that you know I know next to nothing about this show, the actors, anything. What I know is that it's a popular show, and its characters are largely high school students.

I also know that the actors who play the "kids" are not, in fact, underage.

So the collective gasp prompted by scantily-clad Glee cast members on the cover of GQ affects me not at all as a fan of the show, because I don't watch it. And it doesn't bother me that actors who primarily portray teens have chosen to pose in a decidedly mature manner even though many of their fans are kids, because they're certainly old enough to dress (or not) as they choose. In some ways, the fact that the Parents Television Council is outraged about it almost makes me want to champion the photos, because I think the PTC has a habit of screeching, "Won't someone, please, think of the children?" in defense of a one-size-fits-all morality that I find unrealistic.


Photo courtesy GQ.

But. But. The cover photo -- and additional photos inside the magazine -- disturb me. Maybe not for the reason you think, though. I'm actually less concerned about the young fans who might see the photos (really, are a lot of teenage girls reading GQ?) and more feeling a little bit sad for Dianna Agron and Lea Michele. By all accounts these young women (again, to clarify: both women are 24) are incredibly talented singers and actors. They also happen to be beautiful. And so I guess in our society, regardless of your other redeeming talents, if you're beautiful and you're featured in a magazine, it's appropriate to remove most of your clothing...? Because... I don't even know why. I've never been in that situation, so I guess maybe I don't understand.

Let's step back from the Glee shoot, for a minute. Let's just talk about being a teenage girl in this country. If you have some time, I urge you to read this entire post from Chasing Ray entitled "Can you hear us screaming?" Colleen Mondor writes:

When I was 15 I wanted to scream everyday, for a thousand reasons that ranged from my divorced father, remarried mother, my brother who was gone in the Marine Corps, and the totality of what I did not know and the certainty that I wanted to know everything. Frustration and outright anger fueled me. I was very good at pretending I was fine but I wasn't and those strong emotions are still with me even today. I realized when I read this paragraph that I was not alone in having those intense feelings and I wondered who else felt the same way.

She goes on to share some of the reactions from her group when she asked them what made them want to scream, as teenage girls. Perhaps most compelling is the longest response, which also happens to be anonymous. A small piece of it:

What made me want to scream, as a teen girl? My breasts. When I got breasts, I lost everything else.

Parental trust, affection, respect, and the belief that I had a brain in my head – all of that went out the window, thanks to two largely useless overdeveloped glands.

While reading Mondor's piece, I tried to remember what I felt like at 15. Some of the wrenching responses she received simply don't jive with my adolescent experience. I remember being told that I had a great figure -- mostly by people in my family -- but I wore baggy clothes to hide it, mostly, and was generally regarded by my peers as a somewhat surly nerd. (Because I was mostly a surly nerd.) I remember having pangs of jealousy, on occasion, seeing how the pretty girls could evoke attention and privilege with their looks, but mostly I hung my hat on my "smart girl" identity, and that, to me, was something that didn't "go" with being attractive. It wasn't that I thought I was unattractive, I don't think, merely that I believed dwelling on looks would make me shallow and stupid. So I didn't. And I haughtily believed that

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Pig Benis 5 pts

the day women start watching porn, reading playgirl, and visiting strip clubs, as much as men.

dont pretend its due to sexism. men are far less inhibited anyway and if you look half decent and are of fertile age you can pretty much grab any guys ass without much repercussions.( not same for men). this guy is just privileged.

women need some introspection over their own sexualities.

Lisa Stone 6 pts

You nailed it with your superb comment. As did the Fug Girls, my favorite satire writers on the planet. A zombie costume indeed.

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Sarah 5 pts

... but I stopped watching Glee because the show is boring.

I think even the actors and actresses know it and they are clutching at their 15 minutes, but that isn't even why I hate this photo shoot.

I hate it because it is cheap. It looks like amateur soft core shot on disposable cameras after a shopping spree at Rave.

These are extraordinarily talented singers and actors that are submitting themselves to crotch shots. I have no idea why. My impression (and probably only because of the quality of this photo shoot) is that somebody got them really really wasted and sweet talked them into it.

I hate it not because of the sexualizing of teenagers (because they are in their mid 20s) but because it is all so poorly done.

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randamace 5 pts

It's the high school fantasy that bugs me. Let's put Lea in a high school setting in WHITE PANTIES SPREAD EAGLE so pervy men can have an easier visual. You know how many men prey on high school girls? Spreads like this make it all too easy to rationalize... Look put adult Glee stars in adult settings where they are strong, not objectified and I won't care. Because GQ isn't a kid's magazine and Glee isn't a kid show.

There's no reason the girls have to be half naked with some guy grabbing their butts while they portray high school girls.

I wonder how these guys would feel if it were their high school daughters that older men preyed on. ICK.

oilfieldwife 5 pts

You just said everything I wanted to say, but so much better.

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Blushblog 5 pts

I loved your opinion of this, but slightly disagree. I think that we jump on the words "have to" and "get to" too easily. Like you said, maybe she wanted to be scantily clad. Maybe it makes her feel sexy to know that a good number of guys in America are foaming at the mouth while looking at her pictures. Will she regret it? I don’t know, but she doesn't have to.

When I was a lanky teenager who didn’t think that I was cute, I kind of stayed undercover. Like most do. But once I got comfortable in my skin in high school, I wore clothes that made me feel pretty and I still couldn’t "really" wear makeup, but I had lipgloss in every color. I wasn't scantily clad, but I wasn’t wearing baggy sweatshirts and big jeans anymore. And before you say that clothes shouldn't make you feel pretty. You know that there's THAT shirt, or skirt, or pair of heels that make you legs look extra sexy and you garner more compliments. Well, I just kept myself "up" a little more.

I think what we can tell teens is that they don't NEED to walk around with their boobs hanging out to be pretty. But tell them why. It's like people don’t want things to be published that will cause their kids to ask questions. Just answer them. This picture will be the least of your worries. When they ask why Miley Cyrus is dancing around on a pole when they just saw her on Disney. Tell them that Miley is an adult. You are not. If you dance on a pole (insert your own punishment here). If they're too young to conceptualize fantasy from reality, put them to bed before the awards show. But back to the pictures.

Maybe the guy didn’t feel confident enough in his own skin to pose in less clothes. Maybe he didn't agree with it. He can be this girls friend without doing everything that she does. But in reality, why should that stop anyone else? I feel like we're so quick to judge. If a women shows up scantily clad, we jump on the fact that they didn’t HAVE to do that and they must have deep seated issues and someone must have forced them. If a guy does it, does anyone complain. When the hot Mr. Beckham was half naked in ads, I don't remember reading these type of post. Many young kids follow soccer. I feel like as long as the women is an adult and has made the decision herself. Let her be! If she regrets it later, it'll be her life lesson. If you don't like it, leave GQ on the stands. Or use it as another reason to talk to your kid.
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Susan Getgood 5 pts

because it is a men's magazine, and the a stereotypical men's fantasy.

I don't care that the actresses portray teenage girls and posed so racily. They are (as you point out) adults. Like you, I don't watch the show but suspect I would like it if I did, so not bothered on that score either.

I'm just sorry that GQ seems to want to be a skin mag, not a men's fashion mag. Because really, that's where this sort of photo spread belongs, and then we wouldn't have to worry about kids seeing it.

Unless of course, you display Playboy on your coffee table.

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tegeagent007 5 pts

I don't watch Glee. I watched it twice and I can't stand it. A more telling pic is inside. Lea Michele is sitting on a bench in the locker room with her panties on with her legs spread wide open. I thought that she was supposed to be like the girl next door. But, I guess this is OK with most people. Hell, it's a lot better than the 17 year old Miley Cyrus who is truly a teenage slut in her videos. Maybe these girls, like Miley, are looking ahead beyond Glee and getting publicity. Look at all the Sluts who have made it big: Kim Kardashian, Kendra, Holly, who have slep with grandpa Hugh Hefner. How does Kendra's husband feel about getting all those sloppy seconds.

Melissa Ford 5 pts

Watching Glee for the first time next week, so I don't recognize the actors.

But.

I don't have a problem with the shots, except I wonder why they did it -- what was gained (the photographer, not the actresses). What story was GQ trying to tell?

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bandgeek 5 pts

I am a Glee watcher. I have watched every episode. I do not consider it a children's show. The themes explored are very adult and I would not feel comfortable letting my kids watch it if they were in elementary or middle school period. And echoing earlier comments, a young child probably shouldn't have a copy of GQ anyways.

I do feel that the pictures were in poor taste. Frankly, I don't want to see a crotch shot of anyone wearing panties. And I very much noticed the fact the Dianna wore quite a bit more clothing than Lea. I would place the blame of GQ for choosing to take the low road and publishing pictures that seem to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

However, all the actors involved are adults and they can live with the choices they have made. And from now on, I will simply avoid GQ.

JennaHatfield 9 pts

Well.

I'm all for sexy photos. I mean, obviously ( http://www.blogher.com/how-posing-sexy-photos-chan... ). But my boudoir set was about me reclaiming the sexuality that I thought I lost when my body went through crazy pregnancy changes and subsequent repositioning of things like hips and breasts. It was less about the actual picture results (they could have looked like hell and I'd still feel this way) and more about the mental process of, "Hey! I am sexy! And desirable! Damn it!"

Do I base all of my self-confidence on that photo shoot and its results? Uh, no. I didn't before and I don't now. But to be allowed to feel sexy again meant something very important to me.

On the topic of Glee specifically, the shoot didn't bother me. The show is hardly as wholesome at the PTC is trying to make it out to be with their whinings. I'm surprised they weren't up in arms about the last episode which featured Brittany's character de-virginizing another and, GASP!OMG!NOOOO!, a girl-on-girl kiss. I adore Glee, but it is heavily sexualized. I'm a grown adult, of course, but I'm glad my children are both too young to watch this and asleep when it airs.

Like you, I wish the girls wouldn't have thought it was necessary to do this particular shoot. I want them to be happy and sexy, but, MY GOSH, they are SO talented that this really wasn't all that necessary. I hope, at the very least, they realize that fact and just enjoyed themselves. (And, more over, I hope that they weren't "forced" by the Powers That Be of their show.)

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muirnait 5 pts

My first thought is similar to arguments on the Vanity Fair cover shot by Annie Leibovitz with Tom Ford clothed and all the actresses around him nude. It says a lot about the power dynamic, I think. The naked are vulnerable and the clothed in control. Monteith is a fairly attractive guy - why not have him strip down too to keep things a little more equitable? It just seems "off" a bit to me. Also amusing to me, is that Michele must be standing on a stool or something, because in real life she's more than a foot shorter than Monteith.

mamallama 5 pts

I think it's not an issue because of who they are, but of who the are depicting. They are in character in this picture... Their characters are between the ages of 15-18. Glee is about High Schoolers. I don't care if they are 24 or 30. They portray high schoolers and this photo shoot wasn't a totally separate ordeal... They are promoting Glee. And I don't know about you, but I don't want my high school girls to EVER think that this is how a cool high school girl acts. Or that they have to act this way towards guys in order to be liked, etc. Sexy school girl isn't cute when it is your own 15 year old.

So while I am not up in arms about what people do in their private lives... I think when your main (LARGE) source of income comes from a show about high school you need to be careful. That is the whole issue with the Disney tweens. They play these adorable middles schoolers, and then all of a sudden their 18, doing drugs, posing nude. And those reruns of Hannah Montana or Lindsay Lohans movies, Lizzie McGuire,etc are still playing.

I think that is why we as parents need to guard what we let our chidlren watch. Just cause it's on Disney doesn't mean it's okay. Just because Glee is a cute (and awesome music) high school show, doesn't mean it's appropriate for middle school/high schoolers to watch.

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Uma Spankhurst 5 pts

It asks all the right questions and genuinely struggles with the topic.

As for the article, as an occasional Glee-watcher, I'm disgusted. I blame GQ, of course, but I also hold these actors accountable. They can always take a stand instead of accommodating the patriarchy, and that includes Corey. They are already successful; it's not like they have to do this to climb the ladder. They do it because they haven't used their brains to think about much of anything, except themselves, and because they are slaves to "the cool," a fatal flaw in most of our youth. In that way, they are just like the men this article will appeal to, and they deserve whatever goes with it.

My 2 cents, anyway.

threehautemamas 5 pts

I don't know..Call me crazy but these are actor/models paid to dress up, paid to play a part. Assuming they don't walk around public in their undies, is there a huge problem on a personal level? I wouldn't let my little girls (oldest 8) read GQ, nor would I let them watch Glee.

I don't think every thing is sexualized-I mean it's GQ, so maybe everthing in that particular magazine, yes, is sexualized;) And clearly I think we can all figure out why the guys clothes were left on (again..this IS GQ!).

just my two cents, but you bring up some excellent points. thanks for the share.

Kathryn W. 5 pts

I watch Glee. I love musicals, I love snarky comedies, it's really the best of both worlds for me. I didn't know about this shoot, though, until today. I don't read GQ, my husband doesn't read GQ. In fact, I actually don't know anybody who reads GQ. Maybe this is why. I'm not outraged by the photos, I just don't care for them (I am starting to wonder why HE gets to keep his clothes on, too). But I know I am not anywhere close to their target audience.

Anyway, my real point in writing this post is to point you to Dianna Agron's (the blonde one)blog. She has posted her thoughts on the photo shoot there. www.felldowntherabbithole.tumblr.com ( http://www.felldowntherabbithole.tumblr.com )

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wwfchic 5 pts

I thought it was too much. Leah's outfits really were the "too much".

I feel like I'm sounding like an old prude (I'm 37). But we objectify women so much - when I was in school - wearing shorts and a tank top was as revealing as it got - and I wasn't even allowed to do that! Now walk through a high school on any given day and it looks like hoochiemama city!

Some days I long for the old days of Andy Griffith and Leave it to Beaver. You can be flirtatious and alluring with your clothes on.

Thedomesticgoddess 5 pts

You know, I was all, "What's the big deal?" until I read this. Now I'm thinking, why is he fully clothed and they are in their panties? Clearly GQ wants to perpetuate the fantasies involved in this kind of photo shoot. While I think they are kinda racy and hot I really kinda shrug it off. Except for that one point. Meh.

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sassymonkey 6 pts moderator

Why does he get to keep his clothes on and grab their asses? hmph!

I don't watch Glee either so I can't really get too upset about the photos from that angle. The women are in their 20s. They can strip down and pose for Playboy or Hustler if they want. It's their right.

My thing is though, why must every single thing be sexualized? Whyyyyy?

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