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Mischief Managed: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2

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It is is over. It is done. I have seen Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2. I laughed. I cried. I cheered. And I have shut the door on the very last Harry Potter summer.

Spoiler notice: I have tried not to spoil key movie scenes but the book, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, has been out since 2007. I assume that people generally know what happens. If you don't and you are concerned about spoilers I propose you do not read further.

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 is the only midnight screening I've done. Ever. When, on release day, I informed my husband that we would need to arrive at the theatre two hours before the screening, he laughed at me. I insisted. After we picked up our tickets and walked into the main hallway of the cineplex, he laughed again -- but at himself. It was slightly organized chaos. While I attempted to figure out which of these many lines of teenagers was our line he looked around in amazement at the number of people who were there and in costume.

Yes. He's a Muggle.

He did not laugh after we picked up our special Harry Potter edition Real D 3-D glasses and walked into the theatre when he realized it was not going to be easy to find two seats together. We spent the next two hours listening to a very excited crowd get ramped up for the movie. Every so often they would break out into song or someone would yell out "1 hour!" and then "45 minutes" up to the last few minutes when they counted them down until finally it was 12:01.

And nothing happened! It took them close to another 5 minutes to start the commercials and while that does not seem long it's certainly far too long to a theatre full of very, very eager Harry Potter fans. But the moment the opening shot of Dumbledore's grave and Voldemort came on screen there was a cheer so loud it made the seats rumble. It happened again during the title screen. And again, at key moments during the movie (Neville Longbottom!).

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A note to parents: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 is not a children's movie. I would argue that they stopped being children's movies a number of releases ago but it bears repeating, this is not a children's movie. It's a war/action movie and in war there is death and destruction. It is dark. There is violence, although I will say it's not nearly as violent as it could have been or as the book was. I think the potentially scariest and disturbing scene for young ones (and not so young ones) is when we see Voldemort's soul. It is raw and frightening. I am not saying don't take children to this movie. You know your children best and there were a few very young children at the midnight screening I attended. I'm just saying, especially for those unfamiliar with the books, it's not a children's movie.

For readers of the book, you will be mostly satisfied, assuming you are not expecting it to follow the book to the letter. There are a lot of changes. Sometimes it's location. A key scene with Severus Snape happens not in the Shrieking Shack but in the Hogwarts boathouse. Sometimes it's in timing. Neville's big moment (yay!) happens a bit later and in a different place than it does in the book. The final showdown does not happen in the Great Hall but outside and some scenes don't appear at all, such as the one in the Ravenclaw common room.

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Other battles are just... not the same. Some have been extended, others added and still others (*cough* Fred's *cough*) you only get quick glimpses of. If you consider the constraints of time and special effects, I find it hard to complain about most of the changes because the moments I really wanted to see? They happen.

In the past the great moments by females in this franchise have been provided by Hermione. In Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 she takes a backseat to Maggie Smith as Professor Minerva McGonagall and Julie Walters as Molly Weasley. We not only get

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Nordette Adams 9 pts

I saw it with my two adult children, both of whom are Harry Potter fans to their core. We gave the final movie a thumbs up. And I also thought Snape's memory sequence was perfect.

Karen, did you know about the Lifetime movie of J.K.Rowling's life. Nothing to write home about, but not bad either.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

I fairly lenient with books-to-movies in general. It's a new thing to me but I'm starting to observe them as totally different entities. But it's HARD.

With the Harry Potter movies I really do think they do so much more right than they do wrong that I'll forgive them for most of what they do wrong.

I believe the epilogue was unintentionally hilarious. Mostly. I was disturbed by Draco's bit of paunch.

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Hey Jen 5 pts

Yup, that's exactly how I felt. I was surprised at how much his death in the movie affected me versus the book. The book I felt bad, but in no way shape or form did I feel like I did watching the movie Snape die.

erinbrowne 5 pts

I love the books with every fiber of my being, so I've made myself be lenient with the movies (otherwise I'd hate them). We saw Hallows Pt 2 on Friday night with some friends, and I was completely entertained. Yeah, things are missing. Yeah, things have changed, but the books are there in their all their gloriousness and I can pick 'em up whenever I want (and I intend to as soon as the e-books are available!)

I admit, I laughed my butt off at the epilogue. I think it needed to be in there for the folks who didn't read the book, but the whole thing was just unintentionally (or was it intentional?) humorous.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

He looks kind of like a Matthew Macfadyen/Clive Owen love child.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

I found myself really liking Snape in the movies. Movie Snape is, for me at least, totally different than Book Snape. Book Snape was, despite everything, still a rather cruel and bullying character. But Movie Snape? Oh my heart hurt for him in a way it didn't for Book Snape.

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Hey Jen 5 pts

Can I also just add that Neville really blossomed! He has turned into such a good looking young man.

Hey Jen 5 pts

You know, it was very bittersweet for me when I finished the last book. I went through my period of "grief" that I would no longer get to hang out with some of my favorite characters, but I moved on and made peace with it. Surprisingly, I am going through it all over again now that I've seen the last movie!

Aside from the obvious discrepencies from book to movie I was satisfied with the movie. I would have loved more time with Fred's scene, but surprisingly, it was Snape's death that made me cry the most. He was such a complex conflicted character that most of the time I couldn't stand him, but I think it really helped having those memories there to put it all out there to show how conflicted and what a wonderful character he truly was.

sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

Of translating the books to the big screen. A really great job.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

Absolutely perfect.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

I would have liked it to be longer as well (maybe a wee bit more lead in to it?) and I pictured it as being bigger in my head. But I'm ok with it. It's one of those scenes I hope will have an extended version on the DVD.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

Oh no! There would have been mutiny if there was a power outage in my theatre!

And absolutely, every parent should decide for their own children whether or not the movie is appropriate for them. I think most parents are aware of how dark the books/movies got at the end but it was worth mentioning the darkness.

I can't wait for the deleted scenes on the DVD. And the cast interviews. They really did have a phenomenal cast.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

I kind of grilled my husband about that since he hadn't read the books and he thought it made sense. They didn't play up the sacrifice thing as much in the movie, and I think it would be hard to explain there, so I gave them a pass on that.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

That scene with the Order was excellent and a good of example of where deviations from the book work in movies.

And YES re: Percy. Though I'd have to go back and look over the movies again (which I can't because we just loaned them out) but I don't think the Percy thing was much played out in the movies.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

Can't wait to hear what you think. :)

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Bailey Alexander 5 pts

We read all the books, when mio marito was traveling in London or New Zealand he'd be at the midnite book releases.

I'm just amazed at how JK Rowling et co pulled this off. Her books, her magic, her ability to keep it clean, fun and classy was so inspiring.

Mio marito, my husband, tho Italian, went to boarding school in the UK for all his schooling, it was such a brilliant and simple way of showing how we must grow up.

Great post!!!

Love JK and loved all the movies....

NatureMom 5 pts

Loved the scenes with Snapes's memories. That was hands down my fave part. I also felt let down when they didn't show more of Fred because that was what hit me the hardest in the books.

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biogirl 5 pts

I was actually a little dissapointed in Mrs. Weasleys scene. I am alone there? She got her line, but I wanted it to be a little more of a battle. For it to be clear that she is an incredible witch. I don't know.. maybe I Was just too excited to see it.

I agree that Ron and Hermione talking to Harry and knowing he was going to the forest was just not right. It bothered me too.

But overall I think it was amazing. By far the best movie. I laughed, I cried. I loved it. Makes me want to read the book all over again :)

Allison824 5 pts

I was also one of the only 34 year old Moms with her Muggle husband at the midnight screening! We got delayed almost an hour though because the power went out at 1137pm! It was still worth the wait. Loved the whole movie except for Fred - wanted more there and I really was wanting a bit more of a reaction out of Harry after his viewing of the pensieve memories. While I agree 100% with your comments about being not for children, I will say that if your child has seen all the Harry Potter movies up to this one that I think they can handle the last movie. I'm taking my daughter to see it today and we've had a discussion about the violence in the movie. I think you said it best when you said every child is different and to use your own judgement! :) Wonderful review! I loved the movie and was glad they did put the epilogue in...I wish they had spent a little more time on it and I personally wanted a little more with Harry and Ginny too, but maybe there will be a lot of deleted scenes on the Blu Ray! :)

writeandchange 5 pts

I agree that that one scene was out of character. Apart from that my only complaint is that they cut/changed the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort: the "conversation" they have is fantastic dialogue and probably my favorite passage in the book. I would have happily watched 5 minutes of that. Otherwise, great movie, great books. Ridiculously sad it's over :(

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moonsoar 6 pts

... and I thought it was, for the most part, utterly perfect. Yes, there were things that were changed, but for the most part they had kept the important things the same and in there.

I will admit that as soon as the Order walked into the Great Hall, my tears started flowing, and they didn't stop until the cheesy epilogue.

There are only two things that I would've changed. Firstly, I feel like Percy got the shaft. Poor dude, I was really hoping to see his reunion scene, and instead we see him in the background without any lines for may 5 seconds. The other thing was the fact that these were quite possibly the most boring credits that they've ever had for the Harry Potter movies. I remember the credits from Prisoner of Azkaban - those were amazing! Then these ones were just.... blah in comparison.

But really, if those are my only complaints, then they really did an utterly amazing job.

Gah! I can't believe how much all of the kids grew up. And I still love Neville. And Snape. And even Draco. Love love love love love.

Now, the question is, when will I be able to go back an see it again? :)

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SemperFiMomma 5 pts

I haven't actually read your post yet. I'm one of those geeks that refuses to watch trailers or commercials having to do with the movie. You know how hard it is to avoid all of that? Ya. But I am bookmarking this post and coming back to it.
However, I did see your first paragraph.
'closing the door to the last Harry Potter summer' That right there makes me sad. I loved reading these books. I loved listening to them on audio. I have loved the movies. I'm not sure I'm ready to let go yet, and yet I know I have to see this movie. I've been waiting for it for 4 years now.
Hoping that it lives up to my expectations...

~Laura

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

They've played around with Crabbe and Goyle characters a bit. I remember in Prisoner of Azkaban Crabbe was in it and Goyle wasn't. Or did I get that backwards? I always get the two of them confused. Whichever one was in Deathly Hallows wasn't in POA and some tall skinny dude was. And I don't think he was the same dude that was in this one (though he could be, I haven't looked it up on IMDB or anything).

Fred's scene should have been bigger. It just should have. It's something I want to pay more attention to upon a rewatch (probably not until out on DVD) because I'm not sure it was obvious which twin it was in that scene.

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beyondelsewhere 5 pts

I'm glad you coughed that Fred thing because I was seriously sad about that. In fact, in the 1.5 minutes I took to run out of the theatre to the bathroom and back I came back and Shawn said "You missed..." and I was just shocked. SHOCKED! I wasn't even gone 2 minutes and something that should have been a little... MORE.. was a blink.

I didn't like the epilogue. They were just taller with bad scruff. I had originally heard that it wasn't going to be included, so I was startled when it was and then it was... blah. Just as I found it in the book.

What I was confused about and had to look up, was why there was Goyle and Some Other Dude. Turns out that Crabbe fellow was arrested in real life for pot possession and I guess that kicked him out of the movies?

I am sad the Decade of Potter is over, but I will always enjoy rewatching and rereading the books.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

I knew they had kept it in because I had seen film stills of that scene. Actually they had to go back and reshoot it.

People cheered for it though. I don't know if they liked if after the fact but there was a big cheer when "19 Years Later" appeared on screen.

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Denise 32 pts moderator

Just thought I'd say that. :-)

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Denise 32 pts moderator

and I was hoping they'd leave it out, too.

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sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

Neville certainly gets his moment. A couple of them actually, including one that was not in the book! I think that you will be pleased with the Nevilleness. (Personally I thought Ginny got way more shafted in Order of the Phoenix. Poor girl barely got any lines.)

Snape... yes. But it would have taken too much screen time to get them to the Shrieking Shack. Makes sense within the movie as it keeps everyone on Hogwarts grounds.

And Fred... Fred should have gotten more. I mean, I always want more twin time but really, that deserved more.

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eljae 5 pts

Sorry about the double posts. My connection has been flaky for weeks.

eljae 5 pts

I don't think I care where Neville gets his big scene, just so long as it's done well. I've been waiting out 6 movies for it and was very disappointed with a couple that his character wasn't developed nearly as well as it could have. (Order of the Phoenix, anyone?) I'm also okay with Snape's big scene in a location, although slightly disappointed. There is a symbolism to the Shrieking Shake that makes his scene there important.

However I am disappointed to hear that *cough* Fred's *cough* is little more than a mention. It goes a long way towards Harry's actions through the rest of the movie. But Yay! that Mrs. Wesley gets her big scene. Cause the movie just wouldn't be right without it.

And while the epilogue in the book is just so-so, it does contain one of my favorite lines of the whole series, so it would disappoint me greatly if it weren't included in the movie.

sassymonkey 18 pts moderator

If that hadn't people would have complained that didn't do and then there would have been rampant rumors that they didn't do it because they were planning more Harry Potter films. It served the same purpose as the book -- it put a cap on the series. That's it. No more Harry Potter stories. Whether I like it or not (my biggest complaint about it in both book and film is that it's soooooooooo cheesy) it does serve a purpose.

Plus, we got to see Albus Severus. He really was a cute little dude.

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idyllicchick 5 pts

They put the epilogue in the movie? I guess I disliked it so much in the book that I never thought they'd add it to the film. I would quickly give that up for a few more minutes with *cough* Fred *cough*.

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