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Heather Has Two Mommies & Two Daddies: Time for the Law to Evolve

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Sharon Tanenbaum and Matty Person wanted to have a family. So, as many lesbian couples do, they turned to an old friend to make that happen. Bill Hirsch was an old friend of Sharon's and was happy to help. After Jesse was born, Bill stayed involved in his life, spending one day a week with Bill and his same sex partner. The entire extended family also had dinner together once a week.

2 + 2 = 4

In the eyes of the law, Sharon and Bill are Jesse's parents. As the law stands now, Jesse can only have two legal parents. But clearly, Jesse has more than the usual matched set of loving parents. Matty and Jesse were in a precarious position. If something happened to Sharon, Matty could be separated from her son and Jesse from one of his mothers. We all like to think that something like that could never happen, but it does.

 

To rectify the situation, Matty and Sharon filed for a third-parent adoption in San Francisco Superior Court. This move gave Jesse three legal parents, with all the rights and responsibilities involved in parenthood.

 

This week, Motherlode, the New York Times parenting blog, wrote about the Tanenbaum/Person/Hirsch family and asked “How many parents is too many?” In the comments, there are a range of views, but one comment, from an attorney in Houston, struck me because he/she focused on the problems rather than the possibilities:

 

I am pretty liberal and open minded but this is just ridiculous and confusing for the child(ren). Frankly, having more than two parents is not only confusing for the child but a legal nightmare as well. If the parents divorce or have a falling out who gets custody? Who pays child support? Who has visitation rights? Divorce is traumatizing enough for children as it is, shuttling between two homes is overwhelming enough. Do we really want children to have three homes? Or four? Having more people with rights is not a good thing. As an attorney I can tell you that it's difficult enough to make two people act in the best interest of a child when things go south. I can't even imagine the nightmare of mediating between three or four or more people.

Frankly, the whole issue smacks of selfishness on the part of the parents. Where do we draw the line? What if ten people want rights? And for those of you who say "no, there would never be a reason for 10 people to have rights", remember that not too long ago, there would never have been a reason for more than 2 people to have rights.

 

~ LK, Houston, TX

 

I'm also an attorney, and I have to say that I don't agree with LK from Houston. Extending parental privileges to third parties can be a good thing. Of course, with the privileges of parenthood come the responsibilities, including financial responsibilities. But I think that having more people financially and emotionally responsible for the well being of a child could be a wonderful thing.

 

I need to add some caveats to this idea of extended parental rights. The right granted to a third or fourth parent must be voluntarily given by the biological parents. Can you imagine the nightmare that would result if any step-parent could apply for, and be granted, parental rights? Coordinating visitation and support between two parents can be complicated and tension fraught enough without adding in a third wheel that isn't wanted by one parent. But, making this a voluntarily granted right, memorialized in court documents, can handle potential problems easily.

 

Extending parental privileges beyond the biological or adoptive parents could also complicate the law when it comes to extended family members, including grandparents. Although there have long been advocates for grandparent rights, we shouldn't usurp the rights of the parents themselves without good cause. But again, making this a voluntarily granted right, rather than a common law or legislated right, solves this problem and keeps the fate of a child within the determination of the parents.

 

Times are changing. Our families are changing. It's time

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AnOnlySlightlyCrazyMama 5 pts

I am excited to see third party parenting rights coming to life. Mine is a blended marriage, his, mine, and ours, and I would hate to see my husband's access to my oldest son restricted if I died. He has been his primary father figure for most of his life. While my son's relationship with his natural father is good, distance can make things difficult, and in our day to day life, my husband is most shaping the man my son will become.

I will need to research and see if the states we live in will accept a third party parent agreement. My ex would be agreeable-we have discussed that if something happens to me I would like some kind of visitation arrangements made so that my son can see not only my husband, but his younger siblings as well.

I hope that more families will be able to make use of agreements like this!

KMayer 5 pts

i read this too, in Motherlode, and was obsessed with comments. When can you ever have too many people loving a child? Never.

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JennaHatfield 10 pts

While the scenarios are different as birth parents don't have legal rights, I'm guessing that the Houston lawyer also doesn't approve of open adoptions as they are supposedly "confusing" for the child(ren). Except that they're not, so why would these scenarios be confusing? They're not. Children are resilient and accepting.

It's the adults that are narrow-minded.

Contributing Editor Jenna Hatfield (@FireMom ( http://twitter.com/FireMom )) blogs at Stop, Drop and Blog ( http://stopdropandblog.com ) and The Chronicles of Munchkin Land ( http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com ). She is a freelance writer and newspaper photographer.

Melissa Ford 5 pts

Have to agree -- if all of the existing parents want to grant that right to another person, I'm not sure what the trouble is. While I'm sure lawyers see negotiations with more people involved as a nightmare, I see it as security for the people (parents and children) involved.

Plus, I really hate that we immediately jump to the problems rather than look at the benefits of granting more people rights.

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Deb Rox 5 pts

I have a hard time understanding the POV of the Houstonite in the comments. It's not as though gay parents have access to the standing rules of marriage and adoption (if a heterosexual couple wants the new husband to be able to adopt a child with a living birth father, there is a process for that birth father to relinquish parental rights, but a gay couple can't uniformly have a donor relinquish rights and have the non-donor in the couple adopt the child into a full-rights family.) So dismissing other solutions for the need for children's rights and access to support and parent's rights and responsibilities without offering another solution leaves a huge gap between policy and the needs of families.

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