ABC News reported yesterday that an increasing number of {helicopter} parents were contacting college officials to request roommate changes for their freshman children because they found the prospective roommate's Facebook profile objectionable.
And what exactly do they find objectionable?
According to the article "party related content and photos" concerns parents at The College of New Jersey while parents at Syracuse University apparently are more concerned with race, religion and sexual orientation; the parents at Suffolk University ranked "sexual orientation" as a top concern.
Facebook began allowing high school students in to the previously college students only social network in September of 2005. By the onset of the next school year, the New York Times reported a new phenomena at various colleges and universities....parents checking out Facebook to see "who" their child's college roommate was as expressed by their Facebook profile. Ah, but it didn't start and stop with mere curiosity.
It also didn't start or stop with concerns that a Facebook party animal would make an inappropriate roommate.... "race, religion, and sexual orientation are the top three concerns?"
Parents, into your helicopters; man your stations. Call the school! Our child can't have a roommate that is ummmm, well, different from us.
What's up with that?
Should we Blame Mr. Rogers?
According to Jeffrey Zaslow of the Wall Street Journal, Mr. Rogers' message that children were special just for being whoever they were, is to blame for the sense of entitlement he believes young people seem to have. He quotes a finance professor, Don Chance, at Louisiana State University, who decided that Mr. Rogers was responsible for the students who came to his office feeling entitled to a better grade, "He {Mr. Rogers} is representative of a culture of excessive doting."
OK, maybe that explains the parental interference, but Mr. Rogers welcomed everyone to his neighborhood.
Research on Millennials (born 1977-1998) indicates that these kids are closer to their parents than any previous generation.Their parents hovered early and hovered often and there has always been constant connection via mobiles and email. OK, let's blame technology.
An article in Duke Magazine titled Helicopter Parents, indicated that according to a survey by the College Parents of America, 74% of parents talked to their kids 2-3 times a week and one third talked to their kids once a day; 90% used cell phones and 58% used email. From being buckled into car seats and bike helmets, to scheduled play dates, the Millenials have been constantly supervised and instead of feeling smothered, they apparently report that they feel very close to their parents.
In fact, these helicopter parents are landing everywhere...colleges, grad schools and work. The Wall Street Journal reported in March 2006 that the same parents who "mowed down the guidance and admissions offices" are increasingly seeking to intercede on their children's behalves in the workplace....calling to negotiate pay and inquire about the working environment.
Anastasia Goodstein, writing in the Huffington Post about parents monitoring college roommates on Facebook calls it, Helicopter Parents Gone Wild. Indeed.
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Protect your college students...
there are people of different races, religions and orientations who might somehow change their lives... imagine that. How horrible. Maybe I should homeschool Michelle into her college years to protect her from... helicopter parents gone wild.
Don't blame Mr Rogers for this one. He would never have advocated parents protecting their children from people who are different.
~Denise
Fast Times @ Homeschool High & Flamingo House Happenings
Imagine that....
learning new things in college!
It seems now that we not only have to worry about the friends that our kids hang out with...now we have to worry about their parents also.
I started a FB group for parents who don't want to friend their kids but so far, we only have 3 members.
Marianne Richmond
resonancepartnership
Not friending the kids
I have friended my kids, but only to get them on a secret group (I created two family groups to facilitate conversation). Otherwise I don't even look at their pages.
Liz Ditz
I Speak of Dreams
lizditz@gmail.com
I can't believe that an
I can't believe that an adult child would *let* their parents do such a thing. I guess if you've been raised by helicopter parents, maybe you haven't learned the ability to stand up for yourself and make your own decisions.
When I turned 18 I left for the college I chose which was 1,000 miles away from the nearest family member. I was ready to be my own person. I have a hard time understanding college age kids/adults who aren't ready to make their own way...yes, I know that's a little judgmental.
Wheat Among Tares
I did a tiny post on your
I did a tiny post on your article here.
Wheat Among Tares
Thanks!
I left a comment.
Marianne Richmond
resonancepartnership
Time for some
anti-aircraft fire I think.
A friend of mine, working on her dissertation, teaches assorted English classes. She told me a story about a girl who failed her class after not doing the work (or not doing sufficient work, I forget the details). After the girl failed to intimidate my friend into giving her a better grade, dad called to take a swing at it. University policy dictated that in this case the matter be referred up the chain of command and dad was shot down quite efficiently.
How can these parents think their "little precious" will ever survive in modern society after being smothered like that?
I also was out on my own in college at 18 and 6 years later I was on the IGB (Inner German Border) watching the East Germans ...
Jim Heivilin
Maybe they don't want precious
to survive on his or her own.
Marianne Richmond
resonancepartnership
What's the link?
I'll join. I'm one of the few parents who does not read her kids' myspace/livejournal.
~Denise
Fast Times @ Homeschool High & Flamingo House Happenings
sent you an invite
and THAT is a whole other post...parents who read their kids FBs, kids misbehavin' and the balance between the 2.
Marianne Richmond
resonancepartnership
Denise, does that take willpower?
Or are you just okay with it, especially because you're so often online? I think it would be hard, if I were a parent, not to check it out, although I know it's important to have spaces where we can be ourselves without intrusion. A friend of mine at work has three kids - two who are fine with him seeing their myspace pages and one who's like NO WAY. You're BLOCKED, Dad! I think it hurts his feelings but hey, if she doesn't friend him, he can't get in.
It's the modern equivalent of hiding the diary key, I guess.
LaurieWrites
Not really a problem
For me it is exactly like hiding the diary key. Nothing more, nothing less.
Now my older daughter, the one who will be 24 soon, I do occasionally visit her myspace but mostly to leave her a message there because the girl never checks her regular email. Heh. I don't really read anything there, not that she actually blogs. She mostly just keeps up with friends via messaging and comments. And sometimes she'll send me to look at her pictures.
Michelle's blog is another story, I do read that but if she asked me not to then I wouldn't. For her, myspace and at some points xanga and livejournal have been her private thoughts - made public. Her blog is pure public. I can live with all of that. No problem.
~Denise
Fast Times @ Homeschool High & Flamingo House Happenings
Doesn't it depend on the age/maturity of the
kid?
Hmmmn. the youngest is now 18.5. I haven't read her FB at all*, but I did read her MS two years ago, when there was an outbreak of drinking/using & driving among her social circle.
Hmmn. Actually, I learned a lot from that episode: which parents would deny that their kids would drink / use (erm...photographic evidence?) and which parents responded to the issue with appropriate responses.
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* Well, except to work with her middle school to compile an alumnae group.
Liz Ditz
I Speak of Dreams
lizditz@gmail.com
Thanks, Marianne. This is a very useful post.
It also got me fired up. I do workshops for college students on the pros and cons of technology and social networking. It's a topic I've insisted we include because they often don't understand its impact...because they've lived with it for their entire teenage experience, at least.
I'll join your group! I have a godson headed to college in the fall, and I just frankly don't want to know. Boundaries are needed for a reason - mine and his, and I also don't want to be in a position of "traffic cop" at any point between him and his parents.
I wrote this in response to the links and perspectives you shared.
Laurie
LaurieWrites
Great post...
you covered a lot of ground!
I think kids and parents both need a workshop....facts not speculations. How to supervise and guide, not interfere and intrude. And for kids, the shelf life of a wall post and the potential reach of a photo.
Marianne Richmond
resonancepartnership
Save the children
Since when did sexual orientation or race doom a room mate paring to fail? In my opinion, the fear of race or orientation is way overblown. I used to have fears around sexual orientation, but thanks to both blogging and meeting others, I don't have those fears anymore. I do, howwever recognize that I live in a culture which has these fears and attitudes of discrimination engrained in it, so I watch for those things as much as possible and try to realize when I'm thinking in ways which don't respect diversity.
My concerns with room mates are that we respect each others' needs. My room mate needs to respect my need for privacy and I need to do the same for her. My room mate needs to respect that Julio's a working dog, and I need to respect her needs around having Julio in the room (now apartment). I need a room mate to respect that things go in certain places so I can find them, but I then need to respect her time and not be too dependent on her. If she asks something I'm uncomfortable with, we work it out. As nervous as I am (I didn't have a room mate for the last two years, so this will be my first time), this will be a valuable experience. Advice from my parents is fine, but they believe in letting me try things and learn things for myself. It's worked for 20 years.
I may have to blog this, just to get all of these thoughts out.
Nickie's Nook
and Nickie's Nook the Book
Disabled roommates?
I'm wondering how many of those parents would request a room change if the rommate was disabled...
I am interested in how your roommate experience goes this year. She'll be lucky to have you and you can tell her I said that. :-)
~Denise
Fast Times @ Homeschool High & Flamingo House Happenings
Room mate w/ disability
I've wondered that too. It would be interesting to study. I think it depends on the values and previous experiences. I always told Res Life that if they think the person is uncomfortable with being room mates with a blind girl with chronic pain and a guide dog, don't put her with me just to provwe you believe in diversity. Ideally, I'd love to shatter a few mis-conceptions about disability, but I'd rather not push the subject and create a situation that adds tension to the year. If there is such a thing, I'd probably be a helicopter
Mom for Julio, I want him to be comfortable and be able to work when needed.
Thanks for your kind words. I'm sure I'll have some insights about room mates soon.
Nickie's Nook
and Nickie's Nook the Book
The Helicopters circle madly !!!
This does not surprise me at all, after having worked for a year in the Academic Advising office at the local community college. I can't tell you how many times it was the parent wanting to meet the advisor, the parent who made the class schedule and the parent who called when their child didn't get registered on time, drop a class on time etc. to demand special and preferential treatment.
I actually had to explain to one mother that she could not sit with her daughter while she was taking the placement test. She threw a fit demanding to be allowed in the room to " help " her daughter. She insisted then afterwards that the test results were skewed. There was no way her daughter missed getting into college algebra, she was furious that her daughter was to be placed in a pre algebra class.
What bothered me the most was the whining of the child, " mom make them fix it!!!" I finally had to call the Dean of the Math Dept and the Dean of Advising in to speak to the mother and daughter.
Both Deans basically told her that her daughter needed to be able to do all this on her own. That by controlling and doing so much for her daughter, she was doing her daughter a great disservice.
It was amusing, only because the mother then seemed to feel she was going to get her way.So it was somewhat satisfying for me, walk out of that meeting with the daughter in the pre algebra class and the mom having to accept the Deans decision.
Didn't mean to ramble on about that, but it is an issue that seems to be wildly out of control.
I blog at A Red headed Step Child
Always a good subject to revisit
Marianne, great post. It seems being a helicopter parent is contagious in some communities. I wrote about this subject once before in Mommy and Family (Helicopter parents: What's that I hear, a whirry bird?) after I saw a report that some parents are contacting their adult children's potential employers. I may have referenced one of the articles you cite. I remember reading that some colleges now use "handlers" to distract helicopter parents during orientation and registration. Laurie left a comment on that helicopter post that had me chuckling and shaking my head.
I understand some parents' concerns about Facebook or Myspace if the child is 13-15, but by the time your child is in her/his later years, they should know the boundaries and the principles of good Internet use. If they won't abide by them to the point that you feel you must check on them constantly, then the problem is not Facebook or use of the Internet, the problem is that you and your child have trust issues. That should be your concern, in my opinion, not looking for better ways to become police.
If you're trying to ferret out what your children do on the Internet while they're in college, the perhaps you should talk to a professional about your own issues. Just my opinion.
I saw the movie "Because I said so" with Diane Keaton. She played the ultimate helicopter parent. LOL. And you could see that while she loved her daughters, a big part of her problem was that she didn't trust them to make their own decisions. Oh, she had a few other problems too that made the movie amusing. Ironically, in reference to your post, the mother was the one using the Internet in the movie.
Again, great post, Marianne. It's a topic that's worth a revisit often.
Nordette
"Love is liquid. Brew and be drunkards!" ~~Nordette. And here's a link to the blog.
Thanks for your insights...
Nordette,
Just went back and re-read your post...and you definitely hit upon the complexity of the helicopter issue. The thought that you ended with, have faith and let go is truly the right place to be. And really, by the time they get to college like you said, if you aren't there, you weren't much of a pilot and the copter is already on a crash course.
As the mother of 2 teenage sons, one of whom lives his life through Facebook, the FB hover has another dimension which I keep trying to get through to my kids...they can't control what their friends write on their wall or what not necessarily acceptable gift someone sends them that lands on their profile. So they need to choose wisely the FB company they keep and peer monitor.
My kids both have friends who have mothers who surreptitiously go on their kid's profile and "report back" the "horrors" that they find. It is very difficult to not want to know what they are up to before the dreaded phone call comes fro someone else asking if you realized that your son sent their daughter a thong as a gift or who knows what else.
And yeah, the issue is trust...my kids frequently counter my questions with a " don't you trust me?" I do, but let's be honest here, I would not have wanted to share some of my exploits with my parents and I also believe kids in groups can get sucked into things they wouldn't do on their own.
FB just adds a new looking glass...the really awful part of this story I thought was using FB the old fashioned way...to discriminate on the basis of race, religion, and sexual orientation on the basis of protecting kids.
Need to rent that movie!
Marianne
Marianne Richmond
resonancepartnership
Helicopter Parents: Really That Big A Deal,
Or Just Good Copy?
First, previous BlogHer Posts on Helicopter Parents
Nordette's post (April 2007) on post-college Helicoptering
http://www.blogher.com/node/18785
Meredith's (April 2007) post on 5th grade helicoptering
http://www.blogher.com/node/18020
I'm surprised it hasn't come up more, somehow.
Anyway, after I read your post and commented last night, I started thinking. As I went for a run this morning, my ideas partially gelled.
I agree with you and Anastasia that parents who interfere with housing office as to roommate assignments are infantilizing their college-age children. I also agree that parents meddling because of concerns about said prospective roommates' sexual orientation or race or religion is despicable.
One thing really struck me, though: while the incoming college class of 2011 (this fall's freshmen) born in 1988-1989, are Millennials, and all of those born in 1988-1989 are defined as Millennials, not all Millennials are going to college. There are bigger parenting problems than Helicopter Parents. And that led to the first installment. Please don't take offense at the snarky title: it is really aimed at the breathless reports in the MSM.
Then I read the survey underlying part of the Duke Magazine article, and thought about changes in communication technology. that led to the second installment.
Then I started I wondering (a) is this a new phenomenon and (b) how much of a trend is it? Thus, the third installment.
Looks like there's going to be more in the series on the meme of Helicopter Parenting and the College-Bound Child: A Meaningful National Problem?"
First Installment:
GASP! Overinvolved Parents! National Emergency! NOT
Second Installment
Parents of Current College Students and Changes in Communication Habits
Third Installment
Prejudiced Parents, College Dorm Assignments, and Social Networking
Liz Ditz
I Speak of Dreams
lizditz@gmail.com
Of course there are bigger parenting
problems.
What I see in Marianne's efforts to discuss this is a call to action - to cut this kind of behavior out, and to realize that technology is changing our access to personal information about other people in such a way that it's showing sometimes ugly true colors.
It's not just a mainstream media report. This is being experienced in higher education institutions (k-12 is not my specialty area so I do not comment there.) to an extreme, based on the conference sessions I've attended and what I experience in daily life, and I don't even work in a residential school environment. The shock may be arising because these are SUPPOSED to be competent students who have, in many cases, had every advantage. Why do they need handholding? Why do teachers who did not sign on for the lower grades have to deal with parents who act like that's where their kids are? It's just silly when it comes down to it.
And based on the population I serve, I can tell you that it is not behavior solely exhibited by white, upper middle class parents, as your blog post indicates. (At least not in my anecdotal experience, but data does bear out that the community college environment is NOT populated by this group as a majority.) Class and race does not always dictate involvement in the school lives of children. Some of the most invested parents I've worked with never finished college, and won't hear of their children following the same path. Family involvement in education is a cultural value for many ethnic groups, particularly when it is feared that language barriers or ethnic bias will prevent the student from getting what they need. It's not uncommon for groups of four or five people to show up together.
While I do agree that this isn't necessarily a "crisis", I would say that it's a culture shift. My parents did not have the access - via email, for instance - to my college administrators or professors, and would not have dreamed of intervening in such a way. Nor do I recall the parents of any person I knew being engaged with our daily lives at college to the point where they would interfere with a teacher's decision making. Technology, to some extent, has flattened the landscape - everyone is connected 24/7 if they want to be, and the reality is that many people do. M y favorite horror story from a conference involved a young lady calling her mother from her classroom when she didn't agree with her grade on an exam. The girl handed the cellphone to the instructor, and became enraged when he would not speak to her mother. What does this solve?
As a counselor and educator I would never put this above more pressing problems, ie parents who may not have a car, much less a helicopter, or kids who don't have enough food or adequate health care. But then again, I write about LOLCats, and also the need for shelter for abandoned animals, so I see it as all relative. I'm concerned about a society where bright people aren't capable of making decisions without calling a parent, and where college freshmen are racially profiled. It bears discussing, if not pushing the panic button.
Laurie
Sad.
I can't really speak to the helicopter parent issue, because my daughter is still very young.
But In my dorm, there seemed to be an unofficial policy of pairing students of the same race. I was the only student paired with someone of a different race. We ended up becoming good friends and are friends to this day.
I benefited from her friendship in many ways, and I learned a lot about race/ racism by being friends with her. It saddens me that parents would deprive their kids of that opportunity.
from a non-helicopter parented millenial
This has been a very interesting discussion to read as it unfolds, and I have posted a response, particularly to the Mister Roger's article Won't you be my neighbor. It seems as though many parents can't seem to get the hang of the balance between being involved in their children's lives and trusting their adult children to be functional adults within society. I had a friend growing up whose mother pulled him out of a school after a unit that she claimed caused him undue emotional distress (the details escape me, having taken place over 15 years ago), in a class of 45 other student he seems to have been the only one so devastatingly affected.
I'm not a parent, so I am generally loathe to pass judgment on someone else's parenting style, but as a college student I recall being appalled by classmates who a) spent hundreds of dollars of their savings on drugs and then b) couldn't figure out how they would justify the missing money to their parents who still received, and opened, their bank statements.
I didn't have to save my own money to afford school books, a new coat, or a haircut for the school year. But I managed my own money from the beginning of the time that money became a reality in my life, and it was my responsibility to get the extras. If I wanted a pair of trendy shoes, that was on me. I gained an understanding of what my money was worth, but I also knew that my parents trusted me with my own money that I had earned.
Perhaps a nineteen year old spending $200 on marijuana needs someone looking over her shoulder, but nineteen is awfully late to be realizing that for the first time.
One more perspective
I'd like to offer a slightly different perspective on all this. Without question from a personal level, I think it's horrendous to make a judgement about a person based on their gender, orientation, abilities, disabilities, etc. But as for parents reading FB or MS, I have to present one more side of the story from a law enforcement perspective. I cannot tell you how many times I've been asked to find kids (generally younger than college, but some of college age) on these social networking sites because they are involved in a case. Law enforcement agencies, potential employers, colleges - are all looking at these entries for various reasons. I'm not saying parents need to park on their child's account, but I do feel from a safety standpoint, that they should at least visit it and be aware of who their child is communicating with.
One could argue that by the time someone reaches college age they have the expectation and right to privacy, but from a personal safety perspective, parents should at least be aware of what their children are saying in a completely public venue, which is what these sites are.
At the very least, print out your child's FB or MS account so you have their screenname. The front screen usually lists friends. Social networking sites all work with law enforcement if there is a case that rises to the level of an emergency. All they need is the account name. At least make sure you have that.
Sorry if I'm off-topic, but as the mother of two college-aged kids and a law enforcement member for ten years, I do go on-line and look at my kids' accounts. I also want to know what their friends are saying. I could care less about a potential roommate's orientation or political views, but if they brag about getting high everyday, it's going to raise a concern with me.
Thanks for giving me this opportunity,
Felicia Donovan
Author, THE BLACK WIDOW AGENCY series
www.feliciadonovan.com
www.blackwidowagency.com
You are definitely not off topic...
the balance of trust and caution is difficult. And knowing who your kids are hanging around with online and offline is simply part of that thing we are supposed to be teaching our kids, personal responsibility. Thanks for sharing your perspective.
Marianne Richmond
resonancepartnership
Millennnials born in 1977??? I don't think
so!
I thought most people agree that Millennials are those born in 1982 or later, those who turned 18 in 2000 or later.
If you were in college pre-Facebook, then you aren't really a Millennial.
-Writergal8, age almost 28, and objects to being called a "Millennial"
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