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He's Cheating or It Sure Feels Like It, Part 1

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As Oprah did on her recent show on why men cheat, I acknowledge that some women also cheat on their husbands. I think the figure is 1 in 4, but as Oprah clarified for her show, this post is not about women who cheat. It's about men who cheat, and what, if anything, you can do about it. Shall we begin?

If you discover your husband is cheating on you, the question you must ask yourself is do you care? Do you want to save the marriage and keep the man?

I didn't. More than likely I didn't want to keep him before he had the affair I knew about, and I recognize he may have had others but I wasn't paying attention.

And yet, if I had to advise a woman who is married and unhappy because her husband had an affair, my advice would never be, "Girl, dump his behind and move on." Why? Because she's not me.

I believe that if you've made a commitment, you need to have a better reason for leaving than simply I'm unhappy because happiness is a state of mind, and if you really believe your spouse stumbled and you have the strength to overcome distrust, go for it. You must know your own mind, of which fleeting emotions may be only fragments. Circumstances don't automatically dictate staying or leaving a marriage. Our levels of pain and desire do that.

I could write this topic from personal experience, and as a a result, this post has become a skeleton of what it once was. I've decided that if I get comments that warrant my saying more about my personal experience, I will do so as my heart leads me. Otherwise, I'll stick to Dr. Gary Neuman's appearance on Oprah.

Neuman is the marriage counselor who wrote The Truth About Men Cheating, and the Queen of Talk is promoting the book. From what I've heard and read, some of Neuman's study results support some of my beliefs about how to make a marriage work. I believe that in order to keep a happy home and to prevent cheating, a woman must be willing to cater to the male ego, which means living at the expense of her own ego more often than women are willing to admit.

But what can you do to prevent your husband from cheating or what will you do if the cheating's already done? That's what Neuman declares is at the crux of his book:

Gary says his work as a marriage counselor inspired him to write this book. "For over 20 years, [I've been] living along with women, counseling, seeing the devastation and how overwhelming it is when they are cheated on and what it subsequently does to the children and the family," he says. "You want to help children of divorce? I said, 'Well, let's get really down and dirty and find out what we can do to save marriages and make them better.'"

Although Gary discusses how wives of cheaters can factor into affairs, he says he wrote the book to empower women. "It's not about blaming the wife. It can't be. I mean, cheating is ridiculous. It's wrong. And you can't justify it," Gary says. "My book is about one thing. It's really about empowering women. If I can give you knowledge that says that I could have proof that if you do certain things, you can lead your relationship to a better place, that will be much better for you as well because it's not just about stopping tragedy. It's about building a much more mutually beneficial relationship." (The Oprah Show)

This idea that the power to save a relationship belongs to the woman? I've heard it before in different words from a male writer online who hasn't done any studies on the matter. It's all his personal observation. He's not talking about cheating, however. Additionally, he's a liberated man giving women lots of power, even saying one of the needs a woman may meet for a man is financial. Still, he seems to be making a case that power to maintain a stable relationship rest with the woman more than the man.

What is it these men are telling us, we have the power to save them from themselves? As I've said before, I may not be suited to marriage. Do I want to do all the heavy lifting of making a relationship

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avflox 5 pts

I don't think sex is ever just sex, so obviously if a person becomes involved with another in a supplemental relationship, there are going to be feelings. This is especially the case in the case of the "emotional affair"--feelings will abound. That's part of the magic, part of what's missing in a routine, long-term relationship.

I won't propose it's not a vital part of human life: it is. Feeling that connection is one of the highest peaks of existence. And to deny that this feeling fades in the long-term among couples is to turn a blind eye to one of the biggest issues surrounding marital complications.

That said, it's a person's responsibility to control his- or herself. Managing the energy from the new relationship is challenging, but not impossible. If one is to engage in such a way to meet needs that are not being fulfilled within the marriage, it is their responsibility to ensure their attention is evenly distributed.

I trust this will be observed if my partner ever decided to undertake such a thing. I've not sensed it, but then, that's part of his duty to me as well.

Maybe you and I are weird. Maybe we're realistic. Maybe we're fed up with the institution of marriage and its nearly impossible expectations. Or maybe, as we hypothesized earlier, we're just not the marrying kind.

Nordette Adams 6 pts

Perhaps it's my Aquarian nature, if you can believe anything about astrology, but I don't get all anxious about supplemental relationships either.  I think it's about trust and knowing the danger signals of when you've crossed the line from having a friend to wanting a lover in that friend.  The introspective person can figure this out, wrestle with it, and if honest, talk to his/her spouse about it.

One line that I pay attention to is men who complain to me about their wives. I don't listen to that. And while married, meaning the period before I filed for divorce, I wouldn't let a male acquaintance/co-worker take a swipe at my spouse nor would I start telling the acquaintance about any marital troubles.  I saw that as a shifting of allegiance that opened the door to an affair.

Nevertheless, I do think emotional affairs are damaging to many marriages, and you can have one without complaining to the person about your spouse. Most people cross the line and don't even know it, neglecting the spouse to see to the emotional needs of the other person, giving the other person time the spouse wants or needs. A telltale sign of crossing the line is being genuinely elated, giddy, to hear from the other person.

Still, I can't give a blanket "Say no to friends of the opposite gender." I think it's more like, have the friends you want but know yourself and if your spouse is uncomfortable about a friendship, you should listen to that and make a decision about whom you'd prefer to keep. My conservative nature comes out on that one. I think if you've committed to a marriage, then the answer should be you prefer to keep your spouse.

Otherwise, I'm odd, and maybe you are too. :-)  From what I've seen, most people don't want their spouses to have friends who are members of the opposite sex.  That's probably rooted in the idea that men and women can't be "just" friends. 

Maybe they're wise and I'm naive on this one.  I think whether a marriage can take supplemental relationships has to do with the personalities and desires of the people involved.  If your husband's female friend has a crush on him and his ego's not doing so well, probably not good that they be alone. If he has a crush on her, then it's time for him to man-up, ask himself why, and make up his mind about what he needs and wants.

The responsibility lies with the spouse whose heart is wandering, male or female, not the object of the spouse's fantasies.  It's the spouse who took the vow to be faithful, not the other person.

Maybe I'm not territorial enough, but I wouldn't want to spend my life inspecting barbed wire around a spouse. Or is it that I don't like being covered in someone else's barbed wire?

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avflox 5 pts

I've been dying to read this post since you mentioned you were covering
the topic, but I didn't want to do it in a rush, so I waited until
today when I had some time to myself. Here, with a nice cup of coffee
in my hands and Amethystium playing softly in the background, I finally
sit down to read, in a robe, at the kitchen table with the sun pouring
in, the way I do only those publications I love--how quickly BlogHer
becomes one of them!

I know your post is about men cheating, but
as I said in that post I linked you to earlier about the Philip Nobel
piece in Elle, I don't think it's a gender issue. Cheating presents
itself whether you're a man or a woman. I won't justify the
behavior--it goes against everything marriage should be--but I can
understand the factors therein.

In my interactions, I have
noticed different kinds of cheating. There is the supplemental
cheating, where people cheat to get something more, be it sex or
attention or warmth, and then there's replacement-seeking, where people
are actively looking for someone to move on with.

It's
complicated, but when it comes to supplemental relationships, I'm far
more understanding than I imagined I would ever be before I got
married. I think it's ridiculous to expect your wife to be your mother
and your best friend and your mistress and your plaything and so on. I
won't say this is true of all women, but it's true of me: I can't be
everything. Perhaps more importantly: I won't be everything.

If
you need someone to make you feel like a god in whatever capacity your
ego requires and I'm not amenable to assisting, then by all means
outsource. Marriage is difficult enough as it is without the absolute
denial of an occasional ray of light. And this goes for women as much
as it does for men.

Nordette Adams 6 pts

LOL. ONe of the husbands on Oprah show sort of made it sound like it just happened. Oprah warned him that the audience of women were about to turn on him. ;-)

Knowing yourself, yes. Many of us don't know ourselves, which is why some of us stray and others of us are willing take the blame for others straying.

Thank you for taking the time to drop by, Babz.

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

You're right to call it a deal breaker because I believe, as does the author of He's Just Not That Into You, that men who cheat on you while you're dating exclusively will cheat on you while you're married as well. It's an integrity issue.

We all make mistakes in relationships.  Mature people who love each other can overcome. Serial cheaters, however, don't love women, they love the chase.

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

In comments, that is, Suzanne. Sounds like a match made in heaven. Does he have any clones? LOL.

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

I agree with what you're saying here, Deborah.  We can find reasons for our bad behavior, but reasons don't equate to justification. Neuman does say there's nothing to justify cheating, and he's right on that point.

It takes forgiveness and spiritual maturity to work through infidelity because once that trust is broken it takes herculean efforts to rebuild it.  But it is possible when two people genuinely want to be together and when the one who cheated understands the damage he or she has done and would leap mountains to help the wounded partner heal.  What happens more frequently is more lying, more denial, and lots of finger pointing on the person who had the affair at the person who didn't.

You weren't giving me what I needed is a lame excuse to go elsewhere. A strong person would sit down and have a talk, try to communicate.  If that didn't work, then cheating is still not the answer. I also think cheating under these circumstances, that you feel you're neglected, may be motivated by a desire to injure the person who supposedly is not giving you what you want, a "I'll show here kind of mentality" even if it's subconscious.

Spot on with you can't serve two people. Someone will get the short end of the stick.

Thank you for taking the time to comment.

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

I'm working my way backwards through comments, but I agree with you there. In fact, I just finished writing something similar in one of my paragraph responding to a comment on Part 2.  The commenter wasn't talking about scripture. LOL. I went off on a tangent because when I'm processing information that's what do.

I wouldn't have any issue with it if Neuman discussed equally, "And husbands, devote yourselves to your wives needs first."  That is actually what the advice is even in the  marriage traditions in Western society, which takes many cues from Judaeo-Christian views of marriage.  Men don't like to talk about it but the full teaching is actually wives submit to your husbands and husbands give your lives for your wives.  I go back to religion because, as I said, a lot of our initial ideas in Western culture about how good marriages function comes from that. (from comments on Part 2 ( http://www.blogher.com/smelling-rat-more-cheating-... ))

It's a good thing women learned to read because if they didn't have to, some men would never discuss what's expected of males.

Thank you for commenting.

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wineplz 5 pts

Any Christian minister or Christian marriage counselor worth their salt will ensure that while spouting off the "women, submit to your husbands" scripture will be sure to complete the rest of that phrase where the Bible instructs men to "love your wives as Christ loved the church".  It's critical that both parties involved understand their roles in the marriage and that it can't just be the woman trying to save a marriage or keep it "affair-proof".  If a man truly loves and cherishes his wife, he probably won't think of cheating in the first place, but would go so far as to ensure she feels she is cared for physically, emotionally, financially...that he supports and shares the burden of caring for children, the household, etc., and that he's NOT dictating her, but is her loving partner in life.  It was the Bible's way of espousing different, but equally important roles in a marriage--of ensuring that both men and women get what they need, because who understands our "wiring" more than He who created us? 

msladydeborah 5 pts

 Any relationship takes work to develop and maintain.  Marriage seems to be the most difficult one to hold together.  A husband and a wife vow to be considerate of each other's needs, feelings and the life that they create together.  The choices that are acted upon give that intent meaning.  It is definitely an act of faith because when a couple marries there is no way to know what the end result will be.

 Cheating is one of those acts that breaks trust between people.  We have this firmly rooted belief that when we marry no one should have the power to come between a husband and a wife.  Yet it does happen more than we care to admit.  The reasons why run the gambit in my opinion.  We live in a society that has nurtured the notion that men will stray no matter what type of relationship they have created.  I have often felt that we are conditioned to be aware of the possibility of infidelity and that  we should be somewhat tolerant of it.  Even though in reality our response is usually the opposite.

A cheating husband is aware of what type of damage he can cause prior to starting an affair.  His choice will eventually hurt everyone involved.  His wife and the other woman are in the position of being emotionally assaulted because of his actions.  We seldom enter into relationships without emotional attachments as women.  I sincerely believe that you cannot serve two people successfully.  Someone will be slighted by your actions.  In the case of a cheating spouse both women are slighted. Since neither one of them can honestly declare that they have an exclusive relationship with him.

We all have the ability to make choices.  I am sure that even in marriages that have lasted for years there have been tempting moments to step outside.  What I think makes a difference is whether or not the person acts on that temptation.  What makes a person decide that it is or is not worth the risk? Only that individual can answer that question. 

I have known personal friends who have managed to go through spousal cheating and survive.  Their relationship is actually better than the original because they had to work on creating one that they both could live with afterwards.  I also have friends who have divorced because of this situation.

Is it solely one partner's responsibility to maintain a satisfactory relationship?  Of course not!  When a person cheats on their spouse there is always a reason why.  Even if it is weak in content-we are a species that has mastered the art of justifying our bull.  I also know that there are times when the relationship has been in trouble for awhile and this is the solution for that problem.  A way to gain some sort of satisfaction without really solving the root of the problem.

Ms Lady Deborah

Suzanne 5 pts

I always thought that I'd leave my husband if he cheated on me, but when I think about how much I'd miss him in my daily life, it makes me hesitate. On the other hand, I carry grudges long and hard, so even if we didn't split up, I wouldn't enjoy his company any more. The good news is that he doesn't seem to mind being married to a hypercritical harpie like me. :) He doesn't need me to stroke his ego, as he does a good job of it himself.

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tinykorean 5 pts

My ex-boyfriend of multiple years cheated on me, and there was never a question for me about whether to keep the relationship going or not; I broke it off right away. Cheating is an extreme breach of trust, and whatever faults I made to get us to that point in our relationship, it did not deserve that kind of punishment. I can't see any glaring mistakes from my own part, but then again, I am very biased - I am sure I made plenty. However, I also gave more of myself to that relationship than I'd ever done in the past, or could ever imagine, and in the end it still ended badly. For me, leaving my ex was the smartest choice I've ever made.

Prior to being cheated on, I used to think that it might be forgiveable, depending on the circumstances, because every relationship and person is different. I still maintain that belief, to a certain degree, except now I know that would never be me. To me, cheating is an absolute dealbreaker.

Lovebabz 5 pts

My husband was not a cheater. He is and remains faithful as we are getting divorced.  So a cheating spouse is not my experience.

I do think cheating is the repsonsibility of the person doing it to tell or not to tell. I don't believe cheating happens by accident and I don't think it's the other spouse's fault that a spouse cheats.  Love requires you to be honest in who you are first.  People who cheat play by a set of rules that says they can excuse anything...that their happiness means more to them than their spouse.

Hhhmm very interesting though and you did a great job of laying it out for more discernment.

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