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How Kids Ruin Your Friendships

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Let's pretend I'm talking to a friend. One of my children decide they need me right now. However, the rule is ,if there are no broken bones, blood, or vomiting then don't interrupt. You wait your turn.

"Mom."

I glance over to inspect the situation. No broken bones, blood or vomit. My attention goes back to my friend.

"Mom...mom."

Again, I take a quick inventory. It has not changed. I keep engaging in my adult conversation.

"MOM!"

A finger shoots up signaling "you better shut up right now or I am going to hurt you". (No, not my middle finger. Although I'm probably thinking it).

"Mom...mom...MOOOOMMMM!"

"Could you excuse me for just a moment Sally Sue? Apparently I am needed."

Then we proceed to have a very in-your-face, intimate conversation that might start with, "What in the world is so important that you had to interrupt?!"

If my children pull me away from a conversation with someone else, it better be important. My children are my number one priority, no doubt, and I am privileged to be a parent. However, it is important for my children to become adults that respect their peers and respect authority. They need to learn patience. I want them to become independent problem solvers. I also want them to understand that the world does not now, nor will it EVER, revolve around them.Thus the reason why I will not answer them right away when I am engaged in a conversation with someone else (unless, of course, it is an emergency).

I have a friend that feels differently. It is not uncommon for us to be engaged in a conversation and her child interrupt us for various reasons:

  • She wants mom to see the picture she colored.
  • She wants mom to help build Legos.
  • She wants mom to have a tea party with her dolls.
  • She wants mom to wipe her arse.

It is humiliating really. The message being sent is that no one else in the room is more important than this child. And it doesn't only effect my relationship with this friend, but any chance of a healthy relationship I could have with this child. This child  has no respect for me and she will never see me as an authority figure. I am one of her mother's accessories.

I remember my mom telling me once about some friends she and dad had when they were a young couple. They were close enough they even vacationed together. When both couples started having children, it seemed like the perfect situation: close friends with children the same age. Unfortunately, it was a disaster. The other couple's parenting style was intensely different. The child was put on a pedestal and treated like a Queen. She could interrupt any conversation in progress, participate in adult activities at will, and talk to the adults like they were her peers. She did not get along with us I am told (I was too young to remember, although I have a vague recollection of some random child torturing one of my dolls at the beach). On top of that, the parents openly argued about how to discipline and one parent would always usurp the other parent's authority. My mom said it was painful to see her friendship fall apart, and it was even more painful to admit that it was hard to like this child. But at the end of the day, it was the result of her friend's parenting style. The friendship dissolved.

It stinks to give up a friendship that you've invested so much of yourself. But sometimes you have no choice.

I've been in a similar situation before. In the beginning I thought it was just me that didn't enjoy my friend's children.

" Well," I thought, " I can put up with it for a short amount of time".

But it became hard to respect my friend after a while when we had such different visions of parenting and different definitions of what was a well-mannered child.  I also started to realize that maintaining this friendship was putting my children in an uncomfortable situation - being bullied, disrespected, ignored, etc. First I handled it with avoiding time with my friend as families and just trying to spend time with her alone. When that became impossible or too obvious, I started avoiding my friend all together so that I didn't have to make up excuses why my family wasn't available any more. Pretty soon, my friend just quit trying and the relationship disappeared.

I have a huge regret. I should have been honest. As painful as it would have been to say, "I enjoy your company but

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My Pajama Days 5 pts

Sometimes we are friends with people that can only handle the easy things in life. But true friends understand that life is hard and unexpected sometimes. My heart goes out to you about your family dynamics and need for a good support system.When one of our friends accepted that her son was autistic and needed help, there was a group of us that pitched in to help drive to music therapy appointments, pre-school drop offs so he could avoid riding the bus and even just an ear to listen. Those friends are out ther - no special needs family should ever be made to feel like their child is too much work.

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My Pajama Days 5 pts

My mom assured me that if a friendship is that easy to pull away from, then it wasn't as secure as we thought. Plus, there are different friends for different seasons of our lives, I think. Sometimes we do out grow them and grow into new ones. Just don't short change yourself. You still have to do what is right for your family.

My Pajama Days  - "Trying on life one flannel pant leg at a time."

My Pajama Days 5 pts

My Pajama Days  - "Trying on life one flannel pant leg at a time."

I completely understand your struggle with balancing when to acknowledge our kids and when to make them wait. Conversations were definitely in spurts when my children were toddlers, that was the height of teaching moments. In that season of my life, all of my friends had toddlers too, so we could completely relate and we were patient with one another. But I am in a different season - my children are almost 13 and almost 9. They should be able to wait while I am having a conversation now and I would expect the same from my friend's children who are school-aged. While they were little, I taught them in baby-steps how to be more patient and respectful of adult conversations so that when they were older, hopefully, it wouldn't be an issue. I am a firm believer in being stricter in the beginning. It is far easier to give priviledges when they get older than to take them away.

Thanks for your comment!

Tropic of Mom 5 pts

I am in a friendship that I feel started falling apart because of challenges with my son, who has sensory processing disorder. My husband and I were friends with this other couple before we had kids and did lots of fun things together. My friend and I were pregnant at the same time, so our children grew up together. Around the time the kids were age 2, though, the other husband started backing away. I started hearing about the couple doing things with other friends and not us. I can't help but feel it's because he didn't approve of things that were going on with our son.

This is all just to say sometimes it's not the children's fault, and it's not the parent's fault. Some people can't take kids who are differently abled. At the time I needed friends to lean on, they now haven't been there for me.

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feelingbeachie 5 pts

But I think what you are doing is wonderful….If you don’t teach your kids manners when they are young, how can they master them when they get older. Over the years, lost a good friend because it became literally impossible to spend time with her or talk to her on the phone. She stopped being able to complete a full sentence. Every sentence she uttered was partially to me, and partially to her daughter. And when she had her second child, it became worse.

sb27sb 5 pts

I agree with so much of this! I had a friend give me a helpful piece of advice when it came to interrupting children. Teach them that if they need to speak to you when you're speaking to someone else, they should come up and quietly place a hand on your arm. This signals to you that they need to talk. You quietly place your hand on their shoulder. This signals to them that you know they need you and you will be with them as soon as the other person is done talking.

Important factor: Don't make them wait too long otherwise the tactic loses it's effectiveness and they'll try a more aggressive approach. Like pulling your arm and yelling "MOM MOM MOM MOM!" = D

It has worked like a charm!!

workingberlinmum 5 pts

I can relate to this. I have a friend who simply can't say no to her son or discipline him in any way even when her son was constantly biting my son and even sometimes me! I would have to be the one telling him no sternly and found it frustrating to see my son being hurt and her just sitting there watching and laughing awkwardly. It's a difficult situation.

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TheLazyChristian 5 pts

I've already had a tough time with two of my good friends on varying parenting topics. Kids definitely change things!

For me, the problem arises when it's something to do with my personality. Something about kids brings out how opinionated I am. I've always been opinionated. I've always stated my opinions as if they're fact. My friends (should) know this about me. But when the topic is parenting and I share my factpinions, suddenly there's something wrong with me. Kind of hurts that people who I thought loved me for me suddenly don't seem to like the me I've always been. Bummer.

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ltorres78 5 pts

This hits close to home for me. I had a fellow twin mom that I got really close to throughout our kids' first 2 years of life. But after I had baby #3, she started to pull away and hang out with other moms, and never inviting me.

I have talked about it with her, but my gut tells me that she's distancing herself because our parenting styles are no longer as similar as they used to be. Of course. She has NO IDEA what life is like for me with twins +1. I've had to adjust and make some changes, maybe be a little more relaxed than I was. But it still hurts and makes me feel like a bad person or bad friend.

So I agree, you should have talked to her. Even if she was offended, at least she would have some closure. I approached my friend, who said nothing was wrong other than us just being on different schedules, and she reaffirmed that I was a dear friend to her, but I still don't feel that's the whole truth.

zchamu 5 pts

Because I don't know that I agree with either parenting method.

I don't think the kid should be able to dictate what happens in the room at all times. But I'm not so big on trying to have a conversation with a friend while her kid goes "Mom. Mom. Moooooooooooooooooooooom." in the background and is ignored either, because honestly I think it's rude. If there are two adults and a child in the room, I do believe that the child is part of the dynamic and should not be completely ignored simply because they *are* a child. I also don't think that respecting a child's presence will automatically turn them in to rude, demanding obnoxious demons.

I do hear you on the fact that differing parenting philosophies can be really hard on friendships. I'm working through that one myself currently and it's really hard.

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