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How Much Is That Wine In The Restaurant?

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I almost never order alcohol in restaurants because I have to drive home afterward (and cabs are expensive). That is a good thing, because I recently learned that wine is marked up 300% in restaurants over the wholesale price or 200% over the retail price (see WSJ article on wine pricing formula). Cheaper wines tend to be marked up at a higher percentage (300% – 400% of wholesale) compared to more expensive wines (150%-200% of wholesale).

That means a $20 bottle wine you bought at a grocery store would cost you $50 at that bistro down the street. WOW! I was always under the impression that wines were marked up, but I had no idea how much.

Also, as can be imagined, more expensive restaurants may have a higher markup.

In most cases, the fancier the restaurant, the higher the markup. A top-tier chef, a team of sommeliers, a large wine cellar and expensive stemware are all built into the wine price. Because pricier restaurants typically have fewer tables and less turnover, they need to make profits on fewer bottles sold.

Buying wine by the glass is even more costly. Restaurants tend to charge the wholesale bottle price for a glass of wine – so that they make back their investment with the first glass (see this ChowHound thread about wine mark-ups) and protect against loss if any bottles have wasted wine.

WSJ recommends that diners avoid ordering by the glass if possible – for reasons of taste as well as value.

If the wine in an opened bottle doesn’t sell in a few days, for example, best practice is to pour out the spoiled wine — but whether that happens or not is a matter of conjecture. For diners looking to maximize the value per ounce, ordering a pricier bottle may be a better choice than ordering wine by the glass.

A few nights ago I went out to a cheap burger and fries place where the entrees top out at $10 or $11. A friend ordered a couple of glasses of red wine. The restaurant didn’t even say what type of red it was. She forgot to check the price but assumed that it was $5 or $6. Turns out it was $9! Two glasses added up to almost $20.

I’m trying to become more educated about wine … and I think I shall begin my education at home, where I can drink excellent pinot noirs and chardonnays purchased at Costco for $10 or $15. These wines, according to these mark-up formulas, may cost $30 or $40 at a restaurant.

What type of wines do you order at restaurants? Do you ever buy wine by the glass?

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LynnPO 5 pts

After seeing the very same wine on a menu that I had at home - I said to a waiter: "Man, you guys ought to buy your wines from the grocery store down the street..."  He was not amused but told me that if I preferred to bring my own wine, they'd charge me a "corking fee".  That was 1990 or so in Portland ,OR.  The fee was $5 at the time and it's since gone up to about $10 but it's worth it!   People called me cheap until they saw how much the markup was.   I bought wine for my wedding reception and paid a $100 corking fee for cases and cases (and cases ;) - we're a bunch of Italian winos, what can I say..)

Unfortunately, I've developed allergies to wines so I don't drink it often any more.  US wines with so many sulfides bother me so I only drink Italian or French wines.  They're supposed to have sulfides too but it must be less than US wines because I just don't get the headaches...I'll save that for another comment.....

So now I drink wine at home and drink it out only at tastings where I can sample for free ( or cheap) and buy ONLY the stuff I know I'll like.

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sassymonkey 6 pts moderator

Usually if I am going out for a dinner that involves wine it's just the fake husband and I. He doesn't drink. Now, our favourite restaurant to splurge at (which unfortunately is in a different city) has a fantastic beer selection so I'll usually order a pint or two of some beer that I've never heard of before. Their draught selection seems to change every time I go so I never have the same (awesome) beer twice.

Most restaurants don't offer that kind of beer selection and sometimes I just really want a glass of wine with my steak (or whatever) despite the horrid markup.

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