Blog
Zandria.us
Bio
Hi! My name is Zandria, and I live in Washington, DC. I wrote for BlogHer.com for over three years (on topics related to single life and online datin...
 
 
 
 

Most Popular

Recent Comments

Jealousy: Can it really be considered "harmless?"

  • Share This Post
  • Pin It
  • 4
  • Sparkle (
    )
     

I think a little bit of mutual jealousy in a relationship is good. It's healthy to know that while your partner is considered attractive to other people, his preference is to be with you -- and vice versa. But if you're going out of your way to make him jealous, can that really be considered "harmless?"

There was an article on Yahoo Health recently called 4 (Harmless) Ways to Make a Man Jealous. The author calls his suggestions "harmless" because he believes a little bit of jealousy is good in a relationship, and he says the things he's listed shouldn't take things "too far." So what are those four "harmless" things a woman can do to make their man jealous?

Stay Up Later Than He Does
[...] When he says he's going to bed, tell him you'll be in later, that you just have a few things to look up on the computer. Not that he doesn't trust you and not that you're going to check up on an ex or two, but he doesn't know that. [...]

Have Drinks with Friends
He knows you talk. He knows you talk more when you're with friends, especially when you add drinks to the mix. And he cares deeply about how he's portrayed in your version of the media [...] and how he stacks up against other men.

Click on ESPN.com
Read up on the latest sports happenings, and bring them up later to your man. When he asks how the heck you knew Padraig Harrington won the British Open, tell him that a couple guys from work were talking about it.

Whoop Him
Challenge him in something physical - whether it's in an upcoming 5K or in your regular yoga class. It's hard for even the least competitive men not to feel antsy when his woman is stronger, faster, or more flexible than he is.

Come on, now. Seriously? A point was made over and over by other women that these four suggestions are things a lot of females do anyway -- and they don't do them because they're trying to make their man jealous, they do them because they want to do them. Not only are these suggestions simplistic, but a lot of men will tell you that their female partners could do any of these things (and more) and they wouldn't be jeaous in the slightest.

If a woman followed these suggestions because she really wants to make her man jealous (and not because she really needed to do something on the computer while her man took a nap, for instance), it makes me wonder where she'd draw the line. How do you know what that line is? Are "harmless" suggestions like these okay, but not others? What if you end up crossing some boundary (whether intentionally or not), and he thinks you're not serious about being with him?

A friend came to me recently with another type of jealousy scenario, and I'd like to throw it out there. The situation is, she's been seeing her guy for a few months, and she had a number of male friends before she met him (real friends, not friends-with-benefits). She hasn't done anything to make him think there's anything going on between her and these guys other than friendship, but he's made it known that he's jealous of the time she spends with them.

It would be easy just to tell her that he should give her the benefit of the doubt. After all, if she knows she's trustworthy, shouldn't she be able to hang out with her guy friends? But here's the wrench: even though she's perfectly okay with the fact that he has female friends, he has this one (attractive) female friend that he hangs out with on occasion. They've gone out drinking together when my friend was out of town, and they send each other text messages. Even though he swears this girl is just a friend, and he's never done anything to prove himself untrustworthy, my friend can't help feeling uncomfortable -- and yes, somewhat jealous.

Is it fair for her to expect him not to be jealous of the time she spends one-on-one with male friends, if she gets jealous when he hangs out one-on-one with the attractive female? No, that doesn't seem fair. So what's the best strategy? Should they agree that they'll only hang out with friends of the opposite-sex when they're in a group situation?

  • 4
  • Sparkle (
    )
     

Comments

Post comment as twitter logo facebook logo
Sort: Newest | Oldest
Kat Wilder 5 pts

I read that, too, on the site, and my first reaction was -- what the heck are they thinking? Why encourage a totally irrational emotion that speaks more of a person's insecurity and ego than anything else?

When men accuse women of game-playing, this is pretty much what they're talking about (among other things); why, why, why continue to perpetuate that? Harmless or not, it's just plain stupid!!

OK, my rant for the day. Thanks for the mention and the creative posts.

Zandria 5 pts

Very good feedback, Laurie and Blondie. :)

Personal blog: Keep Up With Me ( http://www.zandria.us )
BlogHer blog: Life - Singles ( http://www.blogher.com/blog/zandria )

BlondieChicago 5 pts

I actually saw that link on Yahoo and promptly ignored it. In my past, I've had jealousy issues on both sides of the relationship. In my last long-term one, however, there was no jealousy even though both of us saw opposite sex people every few weeks without the other person. I learned the "non-jealousy" from my boyfriend, who seriously didn't care who I hung out with. He really really trusted me, and once I understood that, I decided to trust him, too. It was weird, new, and wonderful to not feel jealousy. I think it actually made the relationship stronger, oddly enough.

lauriewrites 5 pts

I'm going to read through these links more thoroughly later, but my first response is "yuck." Stay up later than he does on purpose? If I need to do that to get a man's attention, something's wrong. And personally speaking, if I'm going to "whoop" him, it's going to be in Scrabble, but only because I'm a competitive word game freak - not because I need to prove anything.

More seriously speaking, when I was in a relationship where I wished for "jealousy", I was wishing for attention that never came. That was a sign unto me that it was wrong, wrong, wrong. Relationships should take some effort, sure, but not debilitating WORK. The same relationship suffered from a similar situation to the one your friend is in: my boyfriend had a female friend who appeared to be competing with me for his time and attention, and he didn't seem to mind. In fact, he spent a lot of time with her both at work and after work, and never seemed to mind that it surpassed the time he spent with me. It eventually became the hugest issue we dealt with, and clear to me that he didn't prioritize me over her, ever. And we lived together!

She was a lesbian in a committed relationship, so I never considered it physical infidelity (although who's to say it couldn't have happened?) But I did consider it an emotional choice he made, and one that was too difficult for me to handle. I ended the relationship over it, on the surface, because he finally admitted that he had feelings for her. But it was a signal of many deeper problems that meant we weren't supposed to be together. Of course he didn't see it that way, but denial runs deep sometimes.

On the flip side, my last boyfriend has several female friends, and it didn't bother me. I trusted him. We hung out with them together and he met up with them sometimes on his own, and I knew I had nothing to fear from them. In fact, I was glad that he was comfortable with women. He did try to maintain a friendship with a former girlfriend, but when that veered into odd territory (her calling and emailing constantly, and it clearly not being the "friendship" on her end that he was trying to establish. He showed me both sides of the correspondence and I witnessed her behavior in person, so I'm not missing any of the story here.) I told him what my concerns were and he ended contact. I didn't make him. I told him it was his choice, but especially based on my past experiences, it made me uncomfortable and it was impacting our (very new) relationship. His choice showed me where his heart was and it was one of the most important things he ever did for me and for his own sanity, I think. We broke up after a few years but I still consider him a friend and knew to trust him and his loyalty. That's a really critical thing for me in a relationship. I have lots of male friends, and love that I do. When I have a boyfriend, though, that's my most important male friend, and I don't cheat. Just don't. If I need to, then I shouldn't be in a relationship.

I think the bottom line is that if you trust someone and are in a strong relationship, it's possible to have friends of the opposite sex. There are some that will perhaps present issues, human attraction being what it is. Communication is critical, and respect for your partner's (rational, reasonable) concerns.

Laurie
LaurieWrites ( http://lauriewrites.typepad.com )