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Juan Williams calls Michelle Obama "Stokely Carmichael in a dress"

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NPR and Fox contributor Juan Williams is catching flak after his televised comments last night that First Lady (and Blogher contributor) Michelle Obama "has this Stokely-Carmichael-in-a-designer-dress thing going" and that she'll be an "albatross" for President Obama. Williams made the comment in an appearance on The O'Reilly Factor alongside BlogHer Contributing Editor Mary Katharine Ham. The liberal media advocacy organization, Media Matters for America, has the video:

 
Media Matters notes that Williams also accused the First Lady of having this kind of "militant anger," although the basis of that assertion was not made clear. Whatever he meant, his linking of Obama to the late radical activist Kwame Toure (ne Stokely Carmichael) has upset some folks. 
 
Gina at Michelle Obama Watch sees a pattern:
 
Couple this with the Politico report calling Michelle Obama a “Frenemy”
of the White House and its clear that certain sectors of the media are
launching a preemptive strike against Michelle Obama.
 
Adam Serwer sees a parallel between Williams' dis of Mrs. Obama and the misogynistic taunts of gangster rappers:
This isn't an isolated statement about something someone said last
year, it fits into an established narrative of who black women are.
Rather than being the hyper-sexualized Jezebel popular in rap music,
she's portrayed as the masculine ball-buster, the kind of women
ignorant men write "why I don't date black women" essays about, trying to convince themselves that there's something rational about hating the kind of woman who gave birth to you.

Serwer's comment reminded me of photography scholar Carla Williams' classic essay, Naked, Neutered and Noble, which explored the constricted lenses through which black women are viewed. She opens the essay with this quote from Maya Angelou:

The larger society, observing the [black] women's outrageous persistence in holding on, staying alive, thought it had no choice save to dissolve the perversity of the Black woman's life into a fabulous fiction of multiple personalities. They were seen as acquiescent, submissive Aunt Jemimas who showed grinning faces, plump laps, fat embracing arms, and brown jaws pouched in laughter. They were described as leering buxom wenches with round heels, open thighs, and insatiable sexual appetites. They were accused of being marauding matriarchs of stern demeanor, battering hands, unforgiving gazes, and
castrating behavior.

The folks at Feministing were thinking along the same lines:

Where Juan Williams sees a militant, a victim, an albatross, most women see dignified strength, intelligence, grace, and independence.

Williams' invocation of the late Kwame Ture is kind of interesting -- I wonder how many Americans even know who he was?

Born in Trinidad in 1941, Carmichael was a student at Howard University who became captivated by the non-violent students' civil rights movement in the early 1960s. He rose through the ranks of the Student Non-violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) to become its chairman. In that capacity, he helped mount major voter registration efforts and played a key role in the effort to unseat the Dixiecrat Mississippi delegates to the 1964 Democratic Party convention.

In the wake of a string of murders of civil rights workers, Carmichael broke with King and moved toward ethnic nationalism, including an assertion of the right to self-defense. He co-authored a book with political scientist Charles Hamilton, Black Power, that argued for collective political and economic action. He was briefly allied with the Black Panthers, but left that group in a dispute over ideology and tactics, and left the United States to live in Africa. During this time, he changed his name to Kwame Ture.

Ultimately, Ture became a committed Marxist-Leninist, founding the Pan-Africanist All African People's Revolutionary Party. Although his Party never attracted many adherents, Ture remained in demand as a public speaker on college campuses until his death from prostate cancer in 1998.

As the writer for the acclaimed documentary series, Eyes On The Prize, Williams would be familiar with Ture's biography. Of course, all of us who were students of 20th century African American politics would have read Ture and critiqued his work. Given that, it's hard for me to see how Williams could characterize an establishment figure such as Michelle Obama that way with any intellectual integrity. It's sloppy, sexist and beneath him. One expects more dignity and rigor from Juan Williams. I hope he'll be more thoughtful in his critiques in the future.

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ducksgirl 5 pts

I am a woman, a feminist, a graduate of UC Berkeley, and a lawyer. I have been sexually harassed in the past, and I did not like it.

That said, I like Juan Williams very much and I respect his opinions. I don't always agree with his ideas, but I find him to be thoughtful and respectful and informed.

Like Juan Williams, I did not believe Anita Hill and I agreed with Clarence Thomas that those hearings were ridiculous and amounted to a "high tech lynching." I won't go through all the details, but as a lawyer, I could see that Anita Hill did not have a case. She allowed herself to be used in a mean-spirited political game to try to keep a good man, who is conservative, off the Supreme Court.

I listen to NPR and CNN and Fox and the BBC and sometimes MSNBC. I like to look at all angles and listen to differing opinions. Juan Williams does that well. And I am not going to sit here and listen to him be raked over the coals by you lefties, without saying something. You know, I used to be a leftie myself, but now I'm more of a centrist. I turned away from the left because of all the name-calling and lack of respect for those with a different point of view. "Celebrate diversity" means what it says. Be glad that people have differing opinions. Smile when someone makes the opposite argument to yours. Realize that at some point in your life, you might have been thinking like them.

It hurts our society when someone like Juan Williams is verbally "lynched" for expressing an unpopular opinion. I fondly remember my college days in the 60s and 70s, when we could discuss all sides of an issue without calling names. I never call those who disagree with me "stupid" or "idiot", but I have been called those names by folks on the left. I saw cartoons of George Bush as a monkey, and I heard him talked about like he was the stupidist guy who ever lived. If people did the same with Obama, folks would call them racist. But to criticize Bush or Palin in the meanist way possible...you think that is okay? I just don't get it.

Well, to conclude, I will continue to listen to Juan Williams. If he told some dirty jokes at the Washington Post 20 years ago, I really don't care. Any more than I care that Obama smoked pot when he was in college. So what? Let's stick to the real issues and do our best to treat each other with kindness and respect.

ducksgirl 5 pts

I am a woman, a feminist, a graduate of UC Berkeley, and a lawyer. I have been sexually harassed in the past, and I did not like it.

That said, I like Juan Williams very much and I respect his opinions. I don't always agree with his ideas, but I find him to be thoughtful and respectful and informed.

Like Juan Williams, I did not believe Anita Hill and I agreed with Clarence Thomas that those hearings were ridiculous and amounted to a "high tech lynching." I won't go through all the details, but as a lawyer, I could see that Anita Hill did not have a case. She allowed herself to be used in a mean-spirited political game to try to keep a good man, who is conservative, off the Supreme Court.

I listen to NPR and CNN and Fox and the BBC and sometimes MSNBC. I like to look at all angles and listen to differing opinions. Juan Williams does that well. And I am not going to sit here and listen to him be raked over the coals by you lefties, without saying something. You know, I used to be a leftie myself, but now I'm more of a centrist. I turned away from the left because of all the name-calling and lack of respect for those with a different point of view. "Celebrate diversity" means what it says. Be glad that people have differing opinions. Smile when someone makes the opposite argument to yours. Realize that at some point in your life, you might have been thinking like them.

It hurts our society when someone like Juan Williams is verbally "lynched" for expressing an unpopular opinion. I fondly remember my college days in the 60s and 70s, when we could discuss all sides of an issue without calling names. I never call those who disagree with me "stupid" or "idiot", but I have been called those names by folks on the left. I saw cartoons of George Bush as a monkey, and I heard him talked about like he was the stupidist guy who ever lived. If people did the same with Obama, folks would call them racist. But to criticize Bush or Palin in the meanist way possible...you think that is okay? I just don't get it.

Well, to conclude, I will continue to listen to Juan Williams. If he told some dirty jokes at the Washington Post 20 years ago, I really don't care. Any more than I care that Obama smoked pot when he was in college. So what? Let's stick to the real issues and do our best to treat each other with kindness and respect.

DaisyDeadhead 5 pts

He's always been like this; I first remember him making his
career by attacking Anita Hill.  He was also disciplined by the
Washington Post for sexual harassment back in 1991:

 http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0...

Candelaria Silva 5 pts

some commentators will do anything.  Williams is taking a position guaranteed to generate him press, doesn't seem to care if it generates heat and costs him the NPR gig.  If he loses NPR, he can whine about that on Fox.

I'm almost sorry we're even giving him press here.

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Kim Pearson 5 pts

 If the comment thread on this Washington Monthly post ( http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individu... ) is any indication, some people are so angry about Williams' comments on FOX that they are withholding donations from NPR.

Kim
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silvergirl28 5 pts

Juan Williams' statement is offensive on so many levels.  Usually when I hear or read "in a dress" I know misogyny is the motivation. 

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MMarquit 5 pts

Laura Bush was a classy and educated first lady, but not really known for her individual strength and intellectualism. And, frankly, that's what most men still want to see in a First Lady: Someone who quietly stays out of the way and looks nice on the arm of her man, lending support but not really serving as a true counselor.

My husband went on a rant about this recently, since he's also a big Michelle Obama fan. "I think they're just intimidated by a smart, classy, strong woman," he said. I think, in many cases, he's spot on. Think of the first ladies that get the most ridicule: Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton (and now Michelle Obama?). These are women who broke out of the fashionplate or background First Lady role. I think my husband might be right when he says, "Some men just aren't strong enough to see women who are just as strong -- or stronger."

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

Kim you're more generous than I am toward Juan Williams. 

One expects more dignity and rigor from Juan Williams. I hope he'll be more thoughtful in his critiques in the future. 

Perhaps he's forgotten whatever he learned writing Eye on the Prize. This Stokely Carmichael in a dress" thing is so like Juan Williams to me, and here is what I had to say about Juan this summer.

Later O'Reilly uses black Fox Contributor Juan Williams to help his case that not only do "liberals" hate FOX News but they also hate everything about traditional American values, he believes. O'Reilly starts out saying to Williams something like "You're African-American" ... and Williams is quite happy to go with O'Reilly's flow. Standard fare for making a false case: Find someone who you think should belong to the group that opposes you and get that person to sell your lie for you.  (WSATA, June 2008 ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com/2008/06/oreilly-on-con... ))

Thank you for framing this discussion within the context of Carmichael/Ture in history.

But all this is quite familiar isn't it?  Remember how some demonized Hillary Clinton as the evil woman behind the presidency while Bill was in office, she was "big brother" pushing socialism on America with her ideas about health care reform.

No new tricks from the opposition, just different dogs.

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Megan Smith 5 pts

If Michelle Obama is considered a liability by Juan Williams, I'd like to know who he thinks is a good enough example of womanhood to be First Lady.

When has Michelle Obama in any way played this "victim" role he's so worried she might whip out?

Give me a freakin' break!

I agree with Gena about Juan's First Lady envy. 

Megan
BlogHer Contributing Editor, TV/Online Video ( http://www.blogher.com/blog/megan-smith )

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francaisejolie 5 pts

They say this guy is also an NPR contributor?  If that is the kind if rhetoric he is slinging I would be surprised if NPR let him stay on.  They are normally a little bit more...even-headed than that. 

Anyone know what he does for NPR?  

BlackWomenInEurope 5 pts

Would anybody even think about Juan Williams if he wasn't a Michelle Obama basher?  He has to ride this Michelle bashing as long as he can or, mercifully, he would disappear back into his role as the Fox News African American basher that very few people respect.

These and other baseless attacks on Michelle Obama only fuel her supporters' determinatoin to make sure that the true face of Michelle Obama is reflected in the media.

Gena Haskett 6 pts

Now let's me see, he is a regular commentator on Fox News. Fox News, I am told is "fair and balanced". I grant you there is a certain alabaster quality to its reporting but I'm not sure that is what is intended by fair. And if you hit the right angle of repose you can balance any old thing; cockeyed though it may be.

I would like to know what did she do in 8 days in the White House to tick him off so much? I watched the video and for Fox News and O'Reilly it wasn't that bad until he had to get in the last word.

Man leaped into into his own private Idaho of speculation.

She is a liability? Princeton/Harvard law graduate with two kids and her husband is President? Equating his wife with Joe Biden? I haven't seen Obama snuggle up to Joe like he does with Michelle. No offense to Joe.

I'm thinking it could be straight up envy; not sure if is of Obama or Michelle. Could be both. Anyway, there is more money is being negative on Fox than there is on being pseudo even handed on NPR.

Until she does or says something of substance that can be proven I'm thinking he might need a bit of oxygen or something to clear his head.
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Gena Haskett 6 pts

This is his biography page:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story...

This is a story that Media Matters did about his juggling of Fox News and NPR
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200710020005

And this is his defense and rational for support of Bill O'Reilly and his belief that he and others that criticize aspects of African American life are told to "Hush up".
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1666573,00.html
That is for a post for another time.

Gena - Out On The Stoop ( http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com )

modernemama 5 pts

When your target is too popular to attack, you go after the nearest soft target to him. Look what was said about Hillary when she was First Lady. It's calculated and it's sexist.