LinkedIn to Facebook: social mores of social networks (or are they social graphs?)
by Laura Scott

The social network thing is still something I'm trying to wrap my brain around. Maybe I'm not alone. While millions of people spend hours a day in these virtual "communities," I wonder if any of us can have the perspective to really grok what's happening ... to us, to our culture, to our media, to our lives. Time marches on, and what today looks like tomorrow is something about which we can only guess.

Of the various social networks out there, Facebook, LinkedIn and MySpace seem to be the giants. Others try to horn in, but so far are not making much headway. Sometimes for good reason. Facebook has become so ubiquitous that even searching for posts on Facebook yields a zillion false hits from sites or feed items with generic "Share on Facebook" links.


LinkedIn seems to just sit there.


Of course, it's not as bad as MySpace, which is so chock full of hideous personal pages it's really the web 2.0 version of Geocities. I signed up for MySpace ages ago, I think. Now that was boring. To date, I will not click on MySpace links for fear of landing on some page with auto-loading stream of who-knows-what-kind-of-music.


On LinkedIn, though -- which of the three is the one on which I've been the most active -- I find it rather hard to do anything, even connect with others. It's really more of a dynamic contacts map than a living, breathing social network. (A "social graph"?) Tish Grier notes that part of what makes LinkedIn what it is is the fact that it's for "adults":

Adults who are building careers in "traditional" or "legacy" (read: conservative-thinking, which is most) businesses have very good reasons for making sure that their privacy is guarded, that maybe some people can't see their photos, and that the photos present the right image.

No pics of drunken frathouse beer-busts nor of doing "body-shots" off your sorority sisters's belly-buttons thankyouverymuch. Those won't help you land a job in investment banking....

LinkedIn isn't about mating-and-dating or make-new-friends-but-keep-the-old or of our profs finding better ways to connect with us outside of class--it's about business and networking for business. It's about finding jobs.



Well, maybe it's also about building reputations, at least a little?

I wonder though: do our young men at Facebook really know all that much about that kind of thing? Or about the life-relationship-friend kind of thing that, in adulthood, has far more shades of gray than it did in college...



When I first joined Facebook, to be honest I was kind of bored with it. Maybe I'm just not the online schmoozing kind of demographic they're targeting. I don't care so much about the past -- the world is changing fast, baby! I want to know what people are doing now! What they're planning to do tomorrow! (And since I'm not in school, the Facebook paradigm kind of falls flat on that front.)

Tish points to Donna Bogatin's post whose title says so much: Why Does Facebook Make Young Men Swoon? At issue is apparent evangelizing happening to try to help empower Facebook to destroy LinkedIn. Yeah, that crazy.

But even more biting is her post Tuesday on women in these networks.

While updating my LinkedIn profile over the weekend, I was taken aback to see that after posting information on my “experience,” a little executive LinkedIn MAN icon now is part of my profile, NOT a little executive LinkedIn WOMAN!

I checked my own listing.... yep!

Ubiquitous man icon on LinkedIn

It may be a “little” thing, but it is representative of that old boys club notion of the inner executive MALE circle.

Why does LinkedIn “decorate” all of the 14 million plus professional profiles it hosts with executive mascots representing professional men, regardless of the gender of the person the profile represents? It would be simple to use a unisex icon, rather than a definitatively male one.

Or, how about applying a male or female executive icon as gender appropriate to individual profiles. Hey, LinkedIn could really take a stand against the purported executive “glass ceiling” by making its mascot icons universally FEMALE!

Back to Tish: She takes a step back and questions what's going on with Facebook.

...[S]hould we keep all of our online selves on Facebook in the first place? Sure, that may be fine for some of the elites of Silicon Valley, but when I think about it, do they keep all of *themselves* online on Facebook? One of the many things adulthood has taught me is that, sometimes, people *say* they're completely transparent when, in fact, they aren't. This may sound sexist, but I've often found that it's men who are great at compartmentalizing--so great that I think it's lead to the phrase "the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing."

We all have dark sides. We all have secrets. Our lives often are shades of gray. It is in negotiating the complexities of adulthood that we learn the importance of privacy.

Maybe it's because we've had a younger generation grow up with adults prying into their lives as never before that we're now seeing a generation of young people, many of whom are now developing the same types of platforms and apps we use daily, who belive that we simply have to get used to having less and less privacy.

This is very, very scary.



I'm not sure I find it scary per se, but it really is curious how so many people blithely give so much personal information, personal assets like photos, personal expressions like videos, up onto sites that, let's face it, could disappear tomorrow. "Oh no, that would never happen!" I hear people saying. And yet it does happen. Companies go under. Policies change. Technical glitches happen. Sites get hacked. (My attitude is colored by Flickr's recent notification that I can display only 200 images and that they are holding the rest hostage until I pay up for a Pro account. Such are the hazards of "free" services offered by companies you can't touch.)

And if you change your mind and want to pull out? Well, easier said than done. And of course, the genie is out of the bottle.

Perhaps the best social network for adults, though, is the kind you join in person, face to face. In the O'Reilly Women in Tech series, Programmer Audrey Eschright writes:

Getting out of the house to meet my fellow geeks has been one of the most useful choices I've made, and I want to encourage other women (and men) who work in technical fields to do the same.....

...It can be a huge relief to talk to people who do similar work elsewhere—not just to share technical information, but also to talk about the interpersonal and financial aspects of what we do. We talk about how to get open source technologies into the enterprise, setting up as an independent contractor, and recent events in our field; we also talk about beer (Portland is a microbrew-lover's town), movies, and bicycling. I've gained a huge wealth of contacts, not only from showing up at meetings and events, but by offering to help organize them as well. I now know who to ask to find out more about database optimization or writing a DSL. I pass on job leads when I hear of them, and other people have done the same for me. I try to network with people online, too, but almost all of the people I talk to and share information with regularly—on Twitter, Facebook, and other sites—are those whom I've met in person. A quick chat at an event has helped jump-start conversations with people who had been silent online contacts for a while. Even geeks often connect best in person.

That's certainly the case for me. I cannot convey in words the high I felt coming away from the DrupalCon Barcelona 2007. Perhaps this is something that people living adult lives can appreciate more. After all, aside from people at work -- and perhaps family at home -- many, if not most, of us really don't get to meet or socialize with many people. And it's all the more so today, when in ever increasing professions we spend more and more time with our noses pressed up against our LCD screens. Getting out and talking to people in person can be invigorating and empowering, relaxing and enjoyable, or just a welcome break from the routine.

It can be quite daunting, though, for your average shy geek. In another O'Reilly article, Perl "goddess" Kirsten Jones shares how hard it was for her to even attend a convention.

I never participated in anything outside my very small world. One big reason for that was that I lacked confidence in my ability to offer anything of interest to the larger community, which caused me to avoid seeking out ways to participate....

...Faced with the choice between staying in my hotel room and meeting other conference attendees, I reluctantly set forth to talk to these people, wielding a Scrabble game to use as my excuse for treading on their time. Even so, I was extremely reluctant to introduce myself, until a couple of them pulled me into their conversation and made me feel welcome. As the evening progressed, I met more of these Important Perl People and discovered that they were quite nice and interesting, and interested in talking to me. Out of the friendships born that evening came my eventual election as Webmaster of The Perl Foundation and an interview with Socialtext, a small startup.

I was the same way at BlogHer last year, and the Drupal events this year. I still am. I can't help it. Yet I'm still drawn to these affairs. We're social creatures. Online networks can help, but we shouldn't let them replace the real thing. It's why the conferences and conventions and mashups and meetups and barcamps and user groups and hackfests and festivals happen. At them, we celebrate the online universe expanding around us, but the events themselves celebrate our social nature that drives us to connect in the "real" world.

BlogHer Tech & Web Contributing Editor Laura Scott blogs at pingVision and rare pattern.

Comments

 

I like facebook

but then I might be a bit special situation as I live in a total different country then most of my friends and family. I have also been moving quit a bit while growing up, so to me facebook is a great place to reconnect with long lost friends.

Dina

dynamitt

 

I'm Twitter-pated

I decided to jump into Twitter a few days ago and I'm already ridiculously hooked. The key is who you "follow" and who "follows" you. That's what makes a Twitter community fun. Yes, it was midnight the other night, but I was exchanging tweets with a tech thought leader in Australia and marveling at the wonder of social media.

It's not just "what are you doing now," it's more of "what are you thinking about now?" There are some people out there who think about really interesting stuff.

Sheila Scarborough
Family Travel blog
Perceptive Travel blog

 

I don't really see Twitter

I don't really see Twitter as a social network. Mostly I just use it as a platform to vent where I can't elsewhere.

I don't totally see the point in social networking. I mean, I can get the same thing and more joining a forum (like this one). Maybe I'm just getting old. MySpace scares me and freezes up when I try to use it anyway. I tried Vox, but found it daunting as well. The only social networks I'm even marginally active in is Last FM and maybe MyBlogLog.

Available Light & Five Dollar Radio

 

Do we even have a definition of "social
network"?

If it's social and it's a network of some kind, isn't it a social network?

Twitter kind of eluded me at first, and then I got into just posting random interestingness that I came across. But now it's starting to look like a log. A snail trail? Been there, done that, thought this, yadda yadda yadda....

Social? Until I see how directed messages are actually directed, it's more like a tree full of birds.



Laura Scott
BlogHer Contributing Editor for Technology & Web
design, snap, blog

 

Learning balance, managing one's online Self

Hi Laura!

what a great and thoughtful post on a very complex matter. (and thanks for the link :-) )

Over the past couple of days I've read a number of blogs by other social networking geeks like me, and have found that lots of us are thinking more about where and how we spread our Selves out across the internet--how we manage our online personnas. (I'll probably write on it later.) And your right that some of it comes down to building reputation. LinkedIn and Facebook (as well as other social networking sites and such) help us build reputation--also known as "personal brand." I used to find the concept of "personal brand" offensive (hey! I'm not a product!) but as an independent consultant, I now know that everything I do and every place I go online contributes to how I'm perceived by potential partners and contractors.

And when you think about it, when employers can google us at will, any of us who writes a blog, puts up a profile on LinkedIn or Facebook, or commments on a message board (without anonymity) is leaving an electronic trail that employers can find more cheaply and easily than they can do a legal background check.

I also agree very much with you assessment on the value of face-to-face interaction. It's very easy to get lost inside the world of the Internet and believe that everyone we meet on whatever site we're on (Twitter, etc.) is our "friend" or that we're making a meaningful connection with that person. Well, we *are* making a connection, but as I've found out, that connection doesn't begin to have truly deep meaning until we are f2f. We are indeed social creatures and we need that social interaction beyond the screen to be truly connected (IMO)

Tish Grier
professional blogger/consultant/writer
blogging at
the Constant Observer

 

Thanks, Tish!

It's hard to get perspective when you're inside of something. I think only time will tell just how much our lives have changed from so much online archiving of all that we do.



Laura Scott
BlogHer Contributing Editor for Technology & Web
design, snap, blog

 

Good post

New York Magazine (http://nymag.com/news/features/27341/) did a feature on this topic, on why young people are foregoing privacy for their 15(+) minutes of fame. As a person on the cusp of this generation, I still cannot offer a good explanation as to why. But I have to admit I am addicted to MySpace. Facebook, eh, I can live without (I agree, it's boring).

As cliche and embarrassing as it is, I met my husband on MySpace and his sister met her husband there as well. When asked outright, all of us claim some other in-person chance meeting (they at a vegan restaurant, us at a music store). I guess this is representative of my adult self being all-too conscious of the connotations of a MySpace romance, no matter how "legit" ours turned out to be. As a working professional I am also conscious of the things I post online, be they pictures or writings of any nature. You're right, you never know who is going to Google you and for what purpose.

As far as personal brand goes, I too agree that it is constantly being created and shaped by all online activities as well as personal words and actions. The supposed anonymity of the internet lures us in to a false sense of security, but all would do well to note that when you're online the world is watching.

Just the Way It Is - A laugh, an epiphany, a like-minded soul

 

Would this be called "MySpace shame"?

I'm of a (non-)generation that had computers come into our daily lives at a young enough age to be able to adapt and even thrive, but not so early that we did not have a pretty full experience of life without them. (Anyone who never had to deal with carbon paper in a typewriter is seriously blessed!) So it's always all been new, so I'm naturally curious about it all. But sometimes I guess the subtleties elude me.

For example, my Facebook page now says that last night at 11:28 I went to sleep. I have no idea what the heck that means, or how it got there. I find it kinda creepy, even though it's made up.



Laura Scott
BlogHer Contributing Editor for Technology & Web
design, snap, blog

 

Facebook can be handy I've just discovered

I recently attended the Web Directions South conference in Sydney and made a real effort to meet people there as I find it quite hard to do.

Since then my Facebook friends have expanded three-fold (I now have about 10) because I added some of these people or they added me as a friend. Because they all have interests similar to mine I hope to maintain contact and if we're ever in the same state again it would be good to catch up.

So I think Facebook has its uses, but I won't be using it as a place to post photos of me or to share too much personal information because that's what my blog is for to a certain extent.

Jen at Semantically driven and Safari suit

 

interesting post

I blogged about a similar topic last night--basically, my feeling torn between my (mostly anonymous) life as a mommy-blogger versus my 'real life' social networking on sites like LinkedIn and Facebook. Thanks for this thoughtful post.

 

Facebook and LinkedIn

The topic of LinkedIn and Facebook has been everywhere this past week! I myself asked questions about the use of these tools in a forum to learn about how people are using them and what their perception was of the difference in social networking tools.

The big difference that wasn't noted in any of these responses is that Facebook is a platform. Facebook allows me access to innovative applications like Inner Circle - which lets me group my contacts and see in one glace what those in a given circle are all doing, like an rss per person. This is a huge time saver and allows me to stay in touch and keep my fingers on the pulse of the movers and shakers in my world. Link:
http://apps.facebook.com/innercircle

Social networking for me has to be more than about learning who do my contacts know, but what are they all doing? How many online campaigns do they have? What are their passions? What do we have in common? What do they need? How can I help them?

With respect to the level of discretion or lack of discretion, the younger gen is demonstrating with their online activity, I have to admit that the optimist in me wants to believe that living in a more transparent world might just result in an increase of individuals with integrity...probably not in the short term but maybe later.