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Looking For My 'Barak' - The Root Examines if Black Women Can 'Catch' the Ideal Man

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Recently The Root.com posted two very interesting commentaries about the state of black relationships in the post-Obama era. The first, written by Jeneé Desmond-Harris argues that one of the reasons why 45% of black women are unmarried, versus 23% of white women, is because black women are too picky. Using the example of the apparent mismatch of the union of Michelle and Barack Obama, Desmond-Harris believes that Michelle must have deliberately chosen to look beyond President Obama's social ineptitude's and questionable class status in order to see his potential:

She must have focused on an abundance of goodness instead of his hint of goofiness and fixated on a warm smile instead of a pair of oversized ears. It’s easy to see now that he was a great catch, but how many of us would have been open to this guy who strayed so far from the black Prince Charming ideal, starting with his very name?

Later in the article, Desmond-Harris gives examples of how black women nitpick over alleged imperfections to the point that they overlook the potential that can lie underneath the surface:

The point is simple. Given the numeric and historical facts, those of us who do seek to have relationships with black men of similar circumstances might need to open up a little. That doesn’t mean giving up on attraction. Attraction cannot be faked or forced. But we must start to question our assumptions about what our ideal really is.

The first commenter on this post said this:

Wake up and smell the coffee, Black woman: You are competing with a younger opened minded generation of Black woman and women of other races. Stop being so picky, recognize the competition, and look at the good vs. the bad in men.

This week writer David Swerdlick, while partly agreeing with Desmond-Harris, added an interesting observation. Maybe black women should stop trying to find 'their' Barak Obama. Stop being (he doesn't say this so bluntly) - a golddigger. Using an example from the original commentary of a woman being turned off because a potential suitor chose Hot Chocolate over coffee he suggests not to focus on trivial issues as to what they can potentially do for you:

We’ll do what we have to do to get your phone number, but in case you hadn’t noticed, there’s a recession going on. If you start sizing up a man for all he’s worth right now, you’re letting him know up front that if things get too far, he’s on the hook for a three-karat rock and a mortgage on a beach house in Oak Bluffs. And if he knows that already, he might flee. 

Now, up until recently, I never fully acknowledged the power of the image of a successful black couple meant to the general public until seeing grownwomen on the verge of tears when talking about the emotional significance of seeing an attractive and successful black couple rise to a political and social prominence in society, something that they never imagined would happen in their lifetime. But Swerdlick also raises an issue that those in black populations would say are ' fighting words:'

And know your own limitations, ladies. I mean, you’re intelligent and sexy and all, but unless you’re a female equivalent to the Dos Equis guy—the most interesting woman in the world who smells like Chanel No. 5 24 hours a day—accept the possibility that it’ll take more than pilates and a master’s degree to snag the next Barack Obama. 

Unfortunately, both these commentaries signify an even more problematic situation that arises when writers delve into the shark-filled waters of discussing black relationships: the blame game.

Reacting to both commentaries, Tami from What Tami Said said this: 

Conversations about heterosexual black relationships seem always about what black women need to do better. And now there seems to be a popular new class of dating article bearing the message: "Don't go thinking you are worthy of a man like Barack Obama."

Danielle from The Black Snob has an issue with Desmond-Harris's take on whether a woman would - or should - be turned off at a 'funny sounding' name:

If names were an issue, no black people would be dating anyone. Everyone born from the 1970s on either knows someone, loves someone or has some form of an African, Muslim, African-American made up fancy-pants name. I was the only Danielle I knew growing up, but I knew about 15 Keishas and God knows how many Hakeems, Dantes and Dontrelles. Barack wouldn't have caused most

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Pointer 5 pts

I don't agree that Barack and Michelle were mis-matched. I think they both brought a lot to the table. Both are highly educated and your family (whether they have money or not) is not as important anymore. Especially since he seemed to be doing well for himself. he didn't settle seeing potential, he seemed like a good catch on his own. casino online ( http://www.asbafo.net )

lainad 5 pts

Nordette. I would have been totally crushed (writers are my personal idols).

In Canada, the only person I know that has spoken to me about colorism is a friend of mine who went college in Atlanta. There, she said, were huge problems with colorism at the school, people self-segregated and when she came back to Toronto, she often mentioned about how 'dark' she was and feared that men don't find her attractive because of it. I thought she was crazy. It was like she came back with an insecurity that she didn't have when she arrived there. On the other hand, she also got a lot of flack because she was Canadian and was bugged because they thought that she acted 'white.'

You can't win, can you?

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

I've had the experience you had with your mother's friend. A famous black writer spoke back when I was I in college and when I went up to meet her, she didn't even acknolwedge that I had spoken to her, even though we were looking at each other straight in the eye.  She ignored me completely. I was there because I respected her work.

She thought it was more important to ignore me and talk to the girl behind me, a student who was only there because she was required to be and had no real interest in this writer. The famous writer gushed about how beautiful the girl was, who, btw, looked like this writer who's made part of her career talking about how painful it was to be treated badly because you're dark and have "black" features such as a broader nose and thicker lips.

I sensed that this was a case of her making over the darker one who had the more "black" features she felt were neglected, and I know I was right because I heard this same writer in an interview a few years later on national television talking about how important it is to let "our beautiful dark sisters" know that they are beautiful. We're talking a few shade differences here, not the difference between very light and very dark. Maybe I reminded her of some girl who'd been favored over her in the past; I don't know, but it hurt my feelings when it happened and I've always remembered it, and even though I understood why she did it, I didn't feel any better about it.

It made me think less of her because she did the reverse of the preference she thought everyone else did, but it was still a preference and a putting down of one sister for the other, who hadn't done anything to her. And it was possibly the first time I'd ever had anybody do this because down here in New Orleans, I'm not considered light but common brown. In my life, the weight issue was always a bigger demon in my personal closet than the color issue because comments about weight were what people used to put me down or to "try to help" me.  Still, being from New Orleans, having an interestingly "colored" family history, etc., I'm very aware of the colorism issue and have plenty of personal stories about it.  Making distinctions between black people based on color was taboo in my family.  My mother, in particular, found it offensive, and called people who did it "ignorant." She railed against it often from her own corner of pain. 

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Southerngirl 5 pts

I know. I did say this was my own personal bug up my A**.  I know of the men you speak and women for that matter.  I come from a family with every shade of brown with a few on the beige scale as well.  Every eye and hair color and we all are battle wary in some way from color issues.  I had a conversation with one of my mom's closest friends a few years ago.  She told me that I looked good in some dress and I told her that she has never called me pretty ever.  She said she always felt that she needed to tell my sister she was pretty since everyone else was telling me.  She was shocked to realize how many people thought the same thing she did and made it a point to tell my sister she was pretty while ignoring the othe other child standing right beside her.  At 35 no big deal at 10 very hurtful.  She apologized.  But for years I thought this woman who loved me to peices did not like me.  My dark skinned, self confident, smart, beautiful sister who is the darkest of the 4 of us talked about praying that she would have children all of the same hue so that none of them had to me the odd one out like she was.  Like I said no monopoly here. 

The color issues run deep and cuts to the core of even those of us who claim not be affected by it. Ask me about color on any other day I would tell you it does not matter call me white chick, half baked, red bone or any of the other names for light skined people and my back goes rigid with cutting words coming from these lips.

You are right that there have been many situations that have gone well because of my skin color like the mom of my White roomate at camp being OK with talking to me but not too sure of how to talk to my dark skinned mom. but for as many of those I have, there are the others the ones that make you ask God why he made you this way.

I would love to read that essay. As color issues can fill volumes of books.  I am not nearly as fluid and coherent in my writing as you Nordette but I have to say that the  venom does not always fall where it is intended. Sometimes those who are standing near get splashed.  It may be that the man who thinks that way needs the sympathy but the sister standing there is also being told that she is not Black enough, yet no matter how light she is, white is wayyy to far off. 

Michelle

I blog at http://www.mommycan.blogspot.com/

Nordette Adams 6 pts

 I am a light bright and damn near white woman and am soo sick of the implication that I am somehow less Black than my Dark skinned sister or cousins. It implies that somehow every man who chooses me has settled because he could not find or was too scared to try and get the white chick he really wanted.  ... But we as women have got to put this kind of sh*t to rest.  We have got to stop spitting this venom at each other as well.

I wrote a book in response to what you said because the colorism issue is a subject I've researched and written on before, and so, I am very familiar with the history that makes it so resistant to eviction. I'm from New Orleans, the cradle of colorism as social strata. People in India have similar issues. Actually, it's a global disease and you may never know when if you've been infected. Like I said, I wrote a book, and then I deleted it.

One of the reasons I said what I said about Obama is because it's been a charge against him from some corners of the black community that he doesn't want to be identified as black. I think if he didn't want to be identified with black people, if that was his hang up and he was all about seeming less threatening to the majority, he would have chosen a different wife. Indeed, during the election, some white opponents did try to use Michelle against Barack, painting her as the darker, angry black woman and the myth that to acknowledge America's racist past and present is to hate America.

I also said what I said because colorism is an issue and many of our black men are color-struck.  

When people who speak with intelligence make an observation on how some black men feel about women and skin color does not mean that the observers are saying they believe a light-skinned wife is less black. It means they've observed that the man who chose her, if he chose her partly because of her skin color, sees her as "less" black and more "white," which indicates that he sees his own black blood as less than the best. Neither does the observation mean that the speaker thinks light-skinned women are less of anything. It is what it is, an observation about the behavior of some black people.

If you've dealt with black women who dislike you because you have lighter skin, then I would say that's their problem and not yours, but such a statement would only be partly correct and only hold if this world were very simple. The fact is that the colorism problem belongs to all of us, those of us who think we've overcome it, those of us who don't want acknowledge how it may have benefited us, and those of us who sould prefer to put our heads in the sand. It belongs to all of us because it hampers all us.

I'm very much aware of the sensitivity on this topic, which is why I used modifiers for the kind of man I'm talking about, which removes him simply from the circle of any dark-skinned man who married any light-skinned woman to the specific sphere of insecure dark-skinned men. That modifer makes it impossible to extrapolate that every dark man with every light-skinned, or even white woman for that matter, has a colorism problem unless one were to assume every dark-skinned man is insecure about being dark.

I'm leaving the topic alone for now.  Perhaps I'll post the essay I deleted here sometime later at my blog, but I think that to say a man married, light bright and damn near white is not nearly as venomous to you as it is to the person who says it if that person is black and believes to be black is less and to have lighter skin is better. So, my sympathy's with them even if they don't recognize they need some sympathy. Since I believe neither of those lies, that black is less or lighter is better, I take no offense at your generalization.

We don't know, based on sight of the couple alone, why anyone marries anyone. We'd have to speak to the people involved in the specific relationship. We can however, upon observing how some people have made their selections in the past and how they speak about darker black and lighter black people whehter they are romantically "color struck" in general. If they are, then we may suspect reasonably that the object of affection's skin color influenced selection. The word "object" is emphasized because selecting a mate based on skin color alone would indicate that the selected mate is an object or tool, the means to an end, and not a real person to his/her significant other.

But, is any of this our business?  It's our business when the person about whom we speak is in a position to hire people, fire people, and make public policy or influence cultural beliefs. It's our business when that person hands down this thinking to his/her children and as a consequence we all reap its perpetuation.  If that person is making decisions based on color and teaching his/her children to do the same, then Houston we have a problem. It goes on, and on, and on.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Southerngirl 5 pts

I too am sick of all the articles that tell me that I am too picky and that is why I have not found the Black man of my dreams.  Why do I have to lower my standards to find someone?  Do Black men really want to be the "settled for"?  What person wakes up and says today I am going out and make him/her lower their standards and see my potential.  Really?  I could rant on and on about this topic but why is it that it is always the women who have to do the compromising.  At what point will MEN take responsibility for themselves and their relationships?  And at what point do we stop whining and take responsibility for who we are and how we live our lives? Barack took the time to pursue this woman not walk away because she did not fawn at his first attempts. My uncle tells the boys in my family that only mall doors should open automatically.

 Now this is a totally differnt rant but a BIG DEAL to me:

This comment strikes me to the core everytime I see it or hear it: or he could have done what insecure color struck black men often do, look for the white, bright, damn-near-white African-American woman who's presented as the acceptable alternative and compromise that lets them appear to stay "true" to their roots.

I am a light bright and damn near white woman and am soo sick of the implication that I am somehow less Black than my Dark skinned sister or cousins.  I am just as Black as my sister as we came out of the same womb and were raised by the same parents.  It implies that somehow every man who chooses me has settled because he could not find or was too scared to try and get the white chick he really wanted.  Nodette I have read enough of you to know that this was not your intention with this comment but as I said this is my personal bug up my A** comment. I and many othes like me have no desire to be any man's compromise.  I can spot the guy from a mile away who has this on his mind.  He gets no play from me or any other self respecting woman.  But we as women have got to put this kind of sh*t to rest.  We have got to stop spitting this venom at each other as well. I could not find it but I remember readiing an article that asked the question if the Black community would have been as accepting of Barak if Michelle were light.  WTF?  is all I could think.  We have internalized too much of this crap and don't even seem to realize when we turn it on ourselves. 

OK I am done now.  I think:)

Michelle

I blog at http://www.mommycan.blogspot.com/

Nordette Adams 6 pts

My thought on the Swedish guy's blog is that clearly he;s tapped into a need some people have given the number of comments he got on one post.

It made me think of Joss Whedon's last few episodes of Angel in which the beast, a creature who was the goddess Jasmine, came to take over the planet and create chaos. To bedazzle the world with its beauty so people would love it and not see it for what it really was, it chose a form of astonishing beauty, a black woman, played by Gina Torres ( https://venuszine.com/articles/art_and_culture/fil... ) (Laurence Fishburne's wife). Torres says due to her height and slighlty Amazonian build she's usually cast as the "not so attractive girlfriend" and so she thanks God for SciFi roles.  I don't khow if Whedon, who considers himself a feminist, was making a statement or if he just likes Torres. 

Whedon also used her in his show Firefly/Serenity as the captain's second in command. Neverthless, there are some people who think Whedon is a misogynist and racist ( http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html?... ), and site her character Zoe from Firefly as evidence. Hmm. 

So, off on a tangent with you.  Good post, Laina. 

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

whattamisaid 5 pts

Thanks for the shout out!

Reading Nordette's comment got me thinking. She's right. I did read Obama's books and he did pursue Michelle aggressively, recognizing her for the "catch" she is. But the idea of a woman as a "catch," particularly a black woman, confuses the MSM.

Wonder if the editor's at The Root would go for this pitch:

Dear Root editors,

I would like to warn black men that just because the President of the United States has married a women like Michelle Obama--whip smart Ivy-Leauge grad, ambitious, beautiful, stylish, great mom, charismatic--that they should not go thinking they deserve this. Heavens, look at the statistics! I'm pretty sure the dire state of black marriages can be blamed on the fact that smart and successful black men think they should only marry smart and successful black women. This is outrageous! Black men should really not be so picky. The fate of the black family and self esteem of black women rests in your hands, black men. I expect you to lower your standards accordingly.

Save black America and let me write this article.

Signed,

A concerned black woman 

Methinks I should not wait around for a call from The Root.... :)

Nordette Adams 6 pts

Did you see the list of what's wrong with women from a group of black men on this post ( http://www.blogher.com/are-you-marriage-material-e... ) on marriage?

The subject of black women and self-worth is very complex, thorny with resentments about who had more opportunities and fighting words over "who wears the pants," black women or black men.  And when I say Barack could have married white I'm hitting that topic of the value of black women on the head. I'm not talking about what I think of black women but the perception of value.

The perception is that if you're a mover and a shaker, you marry what the world tells you is the prize. Sadly, for some black men who've swallowed western messaging that is not a black woman. Even more tragic is that there are undoubtedly some black women sleeping next to black men who don't think the woman beside them is the prize and if the truth be told, she doesn't believe it either. Yep, I've seen it with my own eyes, heard the comments from such people. I know what you're talking about.

To your point on with whom we expect to see men of a certain caliber, I think it's not just black people who do this. (Liz is touching ( http://www.blogher.com/you-and-your-boyfriend-hot-... ) on this topic in general on her post this week. ) Remember all the talk about Prince Charles's mistress, to whom he's now married, and how she wasn't as "pretty" or as "young" as Princess Diana and so before people even discussed that he was having an affair, they disussed that something was wrong with him for being with Camilla ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4252795.stm )? How stupid of him to prefer a woman one year older than he was and not the fair, young lady as though Charles is anything to look at.  

We think the best men should have what society presents as the best woman and in this society that's young, slender, and white. You can dye your hair. You can lose weight, but you can't change black as midnight skin to white as snow. (However peole are trying with chemical bleaching.)  

The topic of society's exaltation of western beauty becomes more painful for those who can never be white and can't find the sensibility to grow beyond the bullshit.  It's Toni Morrison's "Bluest Eye" all over again, and some never learn the lesson that self-acceptance and self-love is a gift only they can give themselves. 

So, I guess I'll say Barack made a touch down. He saw Michelle as the attractive woman that she is, he wanted her, he pursued her, and he caught her.  The courtship was very old school and very romantic. Not a popular route these days.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

lainad 5 pts

 I haven't read - and honestly, most likely will not - any of Obama's books. However, I think that there is this underlying issue about the value of black women from both sides, as I sometimes think that we are devalued not only by some brothers but by sisters as well. I think that because there is such a lack of black/black partnerships in the media that we secretly feel that we are unworthy of the love that we 'think' our non-black sisters can obtain. After all, to have a healthy self-esteem in this environment where there are many circumstances that make loving ones self more difficult than for others, takes a lot of work. Work that some of us simply are too exhausted to do.

When the Obamas appeared on the scene, they brought optimism and hope to the table, that despite the personal rejections and our own dating / marital troubles, Prince Charming might exist and more importantly, be within our reach. But The Root commentaries remind us - or scold us and tell us that we have to do a lot of work to obtain that. A lot of people I have talked to were really surprised that Michelle is black and not white - they expect that brothers in that position would most often choose to be with a white woman. These are not self-hating Negroes, that's just how they saw it as they see that all the time.

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

Barack Obama pursued Michelle rather aggressively, not the other way around. Why aren't they writing "Looking for my Michelle"?

Two other points:

1.) People don't like to hear this but it's true: Barack Obama--Harvard Law grad and first African-American to be editor of its law review--could have very easily married a white woman, something successful or promising black men do, or he could have done what insecure color struck black men often do, look for the white, bright, damn-near-white African-American woman who's presented as the acceptable alternative and compromise that lets them appear to stay "true" to their roots. What does it say about him that he didn't go that route?  He wasn't one of these shallow, Madison-Avenue-brainwashed men going around looking for the woman he sees on a magazine cover, saying, "I want me somebody that looks like Beyonce."  Notice I didn't say somebody who has Beyonce's drive or business sense, but somebody who 'looks like' Beyonce.  And if he had done so, married white or light with long hair, it wouldn't have been seen as odd because he could have simply been doing what many men do of any race, marry women who remind them of their mothers.Men should be asking what did he see when he looked at Michelle, why wasn't he hoodwinked by the predominant image of beauty in this country?

2.)  Barack Obama is a dreamer. It's not about what he had or didn't have when she met him. It's about what he gave up and by extension what she gave up while they were married, before he became the Barack that we see. He stopped working a full-time job with good pay to do something that could have resulted in nothing. How many people, male or female, would put up with that in a mate?

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).