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The lovers' quarrel between organized religion and faith

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So many of us have experienced hurt or insult at the hands of organized religion. Stories of abuse by clergy even worsen the confidence level of woman who have been often disregarded and/or set aside by organized (and patriarchal) institutions. Beyond imperfection, organized religions have seemed to orchestrate problems. I don't need to recount any. All of us can come up with our own list. Add to that the anti-intellectual nature of many far right fundamentalist groups (across all religions) and it makes many people mistrust and depart organized gathering places of religious intent.

A recent survey by Trinity College indicates that 15 % of Americans identify as having no affiliated religion, or as atheists or agnostics -- up from 8% in 1990.

...many of the 750,000 additional American adults who each year identify as having "no religion" are reacting to...the "triumphalism and judg mentalism of the Christian right."
A full quarter of those identifying as "no religion" in the Trinity College report are former Catholics, many of whom were turned off by the church sex abuse scandals of the past decade. That helps explain why the Northeast now rivals the Mountain states and the Pacific Northwest—whose frontier beginnings established rugged individualist traditions that resisted organized religions—as the most secular parts of the country. "Despite the population growth, New England has lost 1 million Catholics" in the last decade..."
Other religious traditions feeding the "no religion" boom are Judaism and Asian religions like Buddhism and Hinduism. While people who leave mainline Protestant churches often find new spiritual homes in evangelical or nondenominational megachurches, the Trinity survey shows that former Catholics, Jews, Buddhists, and Hindus are much more likely to abandon religion altogether. Nearly half of "no religion" Americans come from Irish, Jewish, or Asian backgrounds.

But does that mean that one leaves faith behind, because the institution could not communicate belief-in-action in a satisfactory way? I have heard over and over that some people have left their belief behind them because a minister or priest or rabbi did something absurd, or because a church did not do something that it should have. And I keep saying, "The organization is not the faith. The box is not the contents."

Oh, we poor broken creatures. It seems every time we20try to make an organization around a principle, we corrupt the principle. Look at democratic institutions, education, medicine. Yet we do not say, "I am giving up on democracy because the Senate is corrupt." Nor do we say, "Educational institutions are not doing well. Down with education." And we surely do not say,"Doctors have not always followed the Hippocratic Oath, so I am not going to get any more medical care."

I am not critiquing atheists. They have their position, and that is fine. It is a big world with lots of room for diverse opinion. If you are an atheist reading this, you probably won't find much in it for you except my good wishes. I am not trying to convert you.

I am suggesting, however, that faith is bigger than the containers that try to hold it. And I am saying that it is OK to believe in God without having to tie ones self to a host of dogmas that do not make sense to you. I know this may sound odd to some of you, but I have met people who, because they left a particular church, feel that they also have to leave their faith behind -- essentially in leaving they "buy" the tale of the church/synagogue that God lives only there. If they leave the structure, they leave the Deity.

This makes me very sad.

A friend once said to me, "I can't go back to believing in God -- in such a horrible judgmental figure who is so angry all the time."

Well, of course not. That figure was a projection of a very particular group. God is bigger than our projections. And kinder.

I think I am in a perpetual lover's quarrel with the church. The churches and synagogues and mosques and shrines and temples of the world have kept the story of faith alive. They have been gathering places for people who felt shut out. They have furthered education.

In fact a recent study in Canada indicated that suicide risk was lower among regular worshippers than among those who "considered themselves spiritual" but did not attend worship.They have saved lives, spiritually and physically.

It would be unfair to write this and not mention the many churches and synagogues, temples and places of worship that have

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Zoe J 5 pts

Do you think an Atheist & a Christian could ever have a happy marriage and raise children showing them both beliefs?

Mata H 5 pts

Your phrase "we should get our LIGHT out the door and make a difference by grace-filled actions." says it very well!!!

There is no place for "snooty attacks" anywhere, I agree. The bottom line is to live a decent and loving life and to care for others with compassion. That matters more than if, when and where one goes to church.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

sandhillsis 5 pts

I go to church, lots of different ones really. As my husband travels to area churches performing bluegrass gospel music for worship. So I go and learn and worship in many different styles and ways and even participate in weekly Bible studies. (If we as Christians put into action just 5% of our Biblical knowledge, that would be wonderful.)

What get's me is...the snooty attacks I get by those that keep track of attendence at my home church. Like attendence is sacred or something. I just get really tired of people saying "you need Jesus AND..."

No, I just need Jesus, keep your AND.

The body of Christ, in the form of 'the church', is bigger than buildings. It's a community of believers that shouldn't get comfy in one building instead, we should get our LIGHT out the door and make a difference by grace-filled actions.

That's how I see it anyway.

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Mata H 5 pts

In addition to what you say about some people not being able to move past it -- the "it" being the institution of religion, I am also seeing people who think it is foolish or un-hip in some way to move towards faith. The term "spiritual" is so big ...

It is still that tie-in to the real un-health in many organizations. If some people say they believe in God, they fear being identified with the unhealthiness in the institution. It is as though the word "faith" has been co-opted by the more rigid "institutionalists" (for lack of a better broad term).

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs faithfully along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

Nordette Adams 6 pts

I've noticed that some people are so zoomed into formal religion that if you use the word "faith" and speak of the concepts of belief, they can't seem to wrap their heads around faith outside of formal religion. They keep explaining the problems with faith in terms of what some minister did wrong or how much the domineering head usher at their childhood congregation picked on them or the day they found out old Aunt Susie who claimed to be a believer was cheating on Uncle Fred.  It seems that not only can people not get past the organizations that structure religious beliefs, they can't get past people who declare religious affiliation and accept that faith makes no one perfect the way we humans understand perfection.

I saw that survey similar to the one you mention and  blogged a while back ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com/2009/03/america-is-les... ) on it at my blog. I dunno, may even be the same survey, but I'm not sure. The one I saw said Evangelical churches were seeing an upswing despite Americans in general being less religious and less "Christian" and that while folks are abandoning formal religion they still consider themselves "spiritual."

As always, Mata, a provocative post.

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Mata H 5 pts

It was tough writing it. I owe organized religion a lot, spiritually, and respect so many people within it. There are faithful and honorable people inside who are working so hard for change and justice. I cannot stay, for my own limitations, but that doesn't make me unthankful for what I have received, and for the people I do respect and love, who remain.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

SCanon 5 pts

I have a great dislike for the judgemental attitudes of organized religion even though some are quick to come out with the "Judge not lest ye be judged yourself" creed to serve their own purposes.  EVERYBODY should be welcome to those communities with no strings attached.  Thank you so much for this post, it was the best thing I've read all day.

Mata H 5 pts

I found great comfort in the the theology of the ELCA (Lutheran) but even then I hold the church, any church or religious institution of any religion -- to such high standards that they are bound to disappoint. But the standards should be high. And when I see organized religions embattled over our GLBT brothers and sisters, or excluding people of any sort it makes my hair stand on end.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

SCanon 5 pts

I do, actually, realize that without those beginnings inside of a church I wouldn't have the foundation of my faith today.  As a child it was easy to believe the things being told to me.  It was easy not to question one man's interpretations.  It wasn't until I got older that I started having problems with my faith and I realized that it was the church and things they were saying to me that was causing those problems.  Actually, it was one man.  One pastor who made my head whip around in disbelief so many times that I could no longer trust his organization.  I attended one of those massive nondenominational churches for a few years and actually enjoyed it.  But then we moved and I have only been greeted with the familiar old sayings from that pastor of my childhood who undermined my choices as a woman at every turn.

My resolve has been that my faith is strong enough to survive the tests of life.  However, I simply can't make myself fit into the community that most churches have, no matter how attracitve it looks from the outside.  I have my days where I yearn for that fellowship and companionship, but for the most part I am set on the path that I currently travel.

Mata H 5 pts

Thanks for your kind comments. It is such a shame that an institution called to love has hurt so many people. But here is the limbo again -- would you have had faith without first knowing the inside of a church? Even if what they taught you got put into a healthier place after you left --there still is that initial contact. This is what makes me crazy -- there is value, but it is almost "unsiftable" sometimes.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

Mata H 5 pts

I haven't rejected organized religion entirely. I think in terms of scholarship there is huge value. I don't speak Hebrew or Aramaic or Greek ...so I cannot encounter the original sacred texts in their own language or in the context of their history without outside scholastic help, that, many of the religious institutions provide wonderfully. And the churches and religious institutions have done wonderful things as well. And I do not underestimate the value of spiritual community. Left to our own devices we'd all have Churches of One with nothing in common. But the flaws of organizations gall me and push me away...so I am in limbo.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

SCanon 5 pts

When I am asked about my "religion", my reply is always that I have no religion, only faith.  My upbringings inside of a church only leave me with bad memories and questions as to why people misconstrue a seemingly simple message to that extent.  This is a fantastic post and I thank you for sharing your thoughts.  I feel less like a heretic now.

sandhillsis 5 pts

Religion is steeped in rules, oversite commitees, legalism and dogma. From which, I tire quickly and won't participate.

As hard as I try, I fall short on a daily basis. I don't need a institution to point that out to me. I need a relationship with God, through faith in Jesus, that's based on grace and love, not how well I perform. Now, that's what I'm talking about.

The Shack is a wonderful fiction book to read, if you struggle with religion vs relationship. It helped me heal from the wounds of religion and life. Plain Truth ministries http://www.ptm.org/ also has lots of healing encouragement. Their motto of "Christianity without religion" is way cool in my mind.

Loved your post.

Sandhill Sis

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