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Morally Bankrupt?

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Right after Z was born, almost 4 years ago, the Hubs lost his job. Suddenly, overnight we went from a family of 2 with an income of $80,000 a year to a family of 3 with an income of less than $30,000 a year.

And for the next year, he looked for work, he tried to find a job.

Men in this recession are having a much harder time of things in the world. Black men are having an even harder time.

The bills piled up, so did the coupons. I worked two jobs. We sold off our second vehicle.

We did everything we could, thinking that as soon as he got back to work, we could save it, we could rebuild, we could get back on track.

Unfortunately, that is not the reality. The painful reality that we finally had to accept was that we had debt of a family that made almost 3 times what we were currently making. That no matter how hard I worked, no matter how many jobs and coupons, we were financially bankrupt.

And so, almost 3 years ago, we officially filed for bankruptcy.

We almost lost our marriage. We almost lost ourselves. It was an extremely hard decision, but it was the decision that was ultimately right for our family.

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Since then we have increased our credit rating almost 200 points over where it was pre-bankruptcy. The calls that kept me awake at night are gone. And when I ultimately was laid off from my job, there wasn't as much stress to find a new job immediately.

Last Friday, I was offered a job.

They offered almost twice the amount of money I was making in the Before.

I was excited.

Until they mentioned the background check and credit check.

All weekend, I debated whether I should speak with the Human Resources Director. At least, to put me at ease that it wouldn't be an issue.

It is an issue. A major issue. And the offer has now been rescinded.

Her words? "According to our attorney, you are too much of a liability. If you came in here and started stealing identities or embezzling funds, we would be at fault for hiring you."

What?

How is filing for bankruptcy a criminal act? How am I now guilty of something that I would never have done even if I had never had to file for bankruptcy? If I was able to do those things without being caught, I never would have had to file for bankruptcy in the first place.

Since when did being financially bankrupt equate to being morally bankrupt?

In this crazy new normal that this recession has introduced, you have people, good people, that can't pay their bills anymore. You have people that don't have homes and can't take care of their children - but employers are still expecting to see good credit scores?

It seems like employers are really only looking to employ the still employed which leaves those of us without a job in a very scary place.

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Arnebya 5 pts

I'm glad to read that you have another interview pending elsewhere! While I know it's typical to run credit checks on those in positions to potentially damage the company (access to funds, etc.), the HR person's choice of words was beyond ignorant (and assuming you would hold such a position).

I filed bankruptcy years ago. It's since been removed from my report. But my husband is unemployed and we're back in dire straits with the house, the car, everything else. My credit is so bad I have no credit cards now. I rather enjoy paying for things up front though. I recently had to go out of town for work. I had to pay for the rental car up front and submit an expense report. When you rent cars with a debit card, there is a credit check done on the spot. I'm used to this. I rented a car earlier in the summer from the same company. What I'm not used to is a big red box flashing on their computer screen that reads DO NOT RENT. Apparently my credit score wasn't the magic number it needed to be to rent the car. How would I tell work that I couldn't go to the conference because I couldn't rent a friggin' car? I don't get it. In using a debit card, a hold is placed on the money just like a credit card. If the money were unavailable, it wouldn't go through. I had the money. I just didn't make it to the verification stage.

Leighbra 8 pts

This has been common business practice at least since I worked retail in the 90s. I was young & wrongly believed that you should save up for things until you had the cash to buy them.I was turned down for many internal promotions because I had no credit history. Not bad, not good, just no history because I had no credit cards.So I was a liability, too distrustful to promote in a company I had worked for for over 5 years, but was trustworthy enough to run their registers, even on Black Friday, when I was regularly taking $20,000 in CASH to the bank for them. Bizarre.

TheyCallMeCheap 6 pts

Leighbra I think the company you worked for is full of it. Refusing to promote someone because they don't borrow money makes zero sense. Depending on the job position, I can see why employers might be concerned about the credit history of certain employees. Also, although many employers annually rerun background checks on employees, I don't think it's common practice to check credit reports on an ongoing basis. In your example, there had to be something your employer wasn't telling you.

Karen Moran 8 pts

Wow - I am so very sorry to hear this. But worse is what an HR personally actually said to you...honestly - I highly doubt that's legal

denverdoni 6 pts

I can only imagine how degrading that must have been to have that HR director practically accuse you of being a criminal. Filing bankruptcy is perfectly legal and I assume that a criminal background check would prove that you have never committed any crimes. This practice of allowing employers and insurance companies to access this information and penalize people needs to be regulated. Many young people don't know this, but when the Social Security Administration was first created and wanted to issue numbers to payers there was a huge backlash against the idea because of fear that these identifying numbers could be misused. The law originally prohibited the use of SSN's for anything other than the administration of Social Security. We all know how that turned out, and with computers and credit reporting agencies trading in billions of records we have all been reduced to a number that does not reflect anything of who we are. We are people, not numbers on a printout of undocumented reports!

I was told by an attorney that the latest scam now is for collection agencies to buy lists of people who have had state or federal tax or student loan debt in the past and they create a demand for payment of some fairly small amount, threaten to ruin your credit or sue you and many people just pay them even though they don't owe anything, because they are afraid of getting a bad credit score.

All I can say is I am sorry for that employer that they missed out on the opportunity to hire you. You are are person, not a number and you will prove that to whoever is smart enough to snap you up!

isthisthemiddle 92 pts

A nightmare. I agree with Sofia that tying credit scores to anything other than credit is wrong. They are credit scores, not morality scores. This practice is wrong regardless, but with all the people struggling after unemployment, foreclosures, business closings, even after a major health crisis that may have hurt their credit... are we now going to tell these people that they can't get work because of their credit report? How is that right?

Sofia Michaels 8 pts

I commend your bravery for telling your story. You are reflecting so many Americans' stories in your blog.

There is a term for what you are talking about and I don't swear, but as a real esate broker I have coined the word "asinine" for this credit score in employment (unless it's relevant to the job), insurance costs, foreclosures, etc. It is exactly what is not going to fix the current problems our economy is having. What you are describing is the fearmongers in human resources and financial bondage which millions of Americans are trapped in.

You can get out! Just keep going - "No" means - "Next" (as in next opportunity.) Go find it!

ZoesMomma 7 pts

Sofia Michaels Just a few hours after they called, I received a call from another job that I had not heard from in over 3 weeks wanting me to come in for a 3rd interview. When one door closes...