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No, Noah, There's Not a Santa Claus

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In the 1890s, a little girl named Virginia wrote a letter to the editor of the New York Sun, saying that her friends told her Santa Claus didn’t exist, seeking reassurance from the newspaper because her daddy told her that if it was in the Sun, then it was true. The editorial board famously responded with a letter titled, “Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.”

The response goes on to say that the world would be a dreary place and the light of childhood would be extinguished if Santa didn’t exist. But I don’t think this is true. I sure hope not since we plan on telling Noah from the beginning that Santa is not real.

No Santa

I know this is probably not a popular way to go, but it’s what Bobby ;and I have decided. Here’s our reasoning:

  • We don’t want to lie to our kid. That’s putting it bluntly, of course, and I’m not accusing anyone of hurting their child by telling them Santa exists. For us, it has potential to create a trust issue when Noah finds out -- because he will find out, just like every other kid does -- Santa isn’t really real. If we are telling him in every other instance that he can trust us and that we won’t lie to him, why should this one be different?

  • We don’t want to run the risk that Christmas becomes all about the gifts. The Santa myth puts so much emphasis on presents, and while we still plan to give gifts at Christmas, it’s just not going to be the main event. Looking back, I know I missed the point as a kid, and I want to try to help Noah understand that spending quality time with family and helping others are much bigger parts of Christmas than the gifts.

  • I wouldn’t say religious reasons have much to do with the decision, but we are Christians and will share our beliefs with Noah as he grows up. We don’t ever want him to think God is like Santa: that he doesn’t exist, or if he does, he only gives you stuff when you are “good enough.”

  • Not all parents use “Santa” to manipulate their kids into behaving better, but many do. We don’t want to be tempted to do that, because manipulation is manipulation, no matter how good the intentions are.

We’ve definitely put some thought into this decision, and I feel certain it’s the right one for our family. I think we will absolutely tell Noah the story of Santa Claus, but we just won’t tell him Santa brings him presents, comes down the chimney, eats cookies that he leaves for him or that Santa is “watching him.”

I don’t think he’ll be missing out on much because we will begin our own traditions, and he will have happy Christmases built on the values that we’ve chosen for our family.

If your family has chosen not to “do” Santa Claus, how has it gone for you? I’d love to hear from some folks who have older kids!

The Family Math

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DeborahSkipper 5 pts

 I love this! My 3 are grown - starting at 40 and downward - I am glad I told them the truth - while they were children and still I tell it - not many have the - what it takes - to live in truth - that is human nature - to err - I'm just saying - get hot or get cold - lukewarm does not do it - Kuddos for YOU and YOURS - I am so proud of You!!

 

JenniferTravis 6 pts

I totally agree with this..I've take the stance with mine and i have three (the oldest is almost 13). People have always treated me like I'm nuts for it but we must follow our convictions.

Shellireads 17 pts

I have three children, they are all teenagers now, however, when they were small I made the same choice. For me, it was not ok to create a myth or go along with one that already existed for many people. I did not want my children to ever have reason to doubt the veracity of anything I told them. I also felt that encouraging them to believe in Santa was lying to them and not appropriate for my family.

 

I also did not do the tooth fairy or Easter bunny, though I we did give money for lost teeth and we have always hidden eggs and allowed them to hunt for them.

 

We are Christians also and I told them the reason that we are giving gifts at this time of year is just as a reminder that God the Father gave us the greatest gift, Jesus. When I my children were younger, I did not know many people who had chosen to do as I had with my children, it was refreshing and affirming to read your thoughts, even though it was written a few months ago.

Prayers and Peekaboo 5 pts

Love your thoughts. I have a one year old so thankfully I haven't had to tell him one thing or the other just yet, but it's a decision that weighs heavily on me. I don't want to have the child in school who tells everyone else that Santa is a fraud, but I also don't want to teach my child that Santa is the reason for the season. I want to make sure that Christmas is about Christ. I do think that this can be done with a little Santa storytelling, but I'm still trying to figure out how to make it all work. Best of luck to you! :)

thefamilymath 15 pts

Prayers and Peekaboo Thanks! Same to you!

akl823 5 pts

As long as you try to keep your little one from blowing it for everyone else. Nothing's sadder than a preschooler whose Santa dreams are busted by someone else's truth.

The Mulberry Tree 6 pts

I have struggled with this idea for a while and personally feel no problem with telling my children that Santa Clause exists. He's a mere symbol of Christmas and not the reason for the season. I do understand that. Growing up, there were many Christmases at my house when my parents weren't able to provide extravagant gifts or any gifts for that matter. It was through anonymous friends that Santa was brought to life for us. There were many Christmases that "Santa" filled the bed of my dad's truck with gifts or left cards with money and gifts on the front porch. I am now determined to be that "Santa" to others that need it. I suppose you could just call it anonymous charity, but it is so fun to have your kids BE Sant to someone else. If they don't believe in him then how can they be him. I do respect your decision. I just wanted to share how he can be an influence for service and how he was a blessing in my life. I hope this technique proves to be successful for you and your little one. Merry Christmas!

jaimeb3th 5 pts

I blogged about this a couple weeks ago. http://lillianeve.blogspot.com/2011/12/christmas-traditions-part-1.html

I think it's so important to me because Christianity isn't a religion to me - it's a way of life. Everything I do should glorify God, and I want to pass that way of life down to my child.

MistyE 9 pts

My parents have always told us from the beginning that Santa isn't real. We still liked Santa decorations, we liked to "follow" Santa on the news, we sat on his lap at the mall, and we loved leaving cookies and milk out. The only difference? We knew it was all fun and games. We had fun doing those things, but were always aware that gifts came from family and friends. Santa was just a part of the holiday like hunting eggs is to easter and trick-or-treating is to halloween. It didn't have a negative impact on our imagination (as many think it does) and we still grew up knowing how to have faith and hope. As for my and my young kids...I'll do the same as my parents. They will know he isn't real, but we will still enjoy the holiday and all the fun and games that come with it. Besides, I really don't want some makebelieve jolly fat man getting all the credit for my hard earned money and thoughtfullness. I need all the brownie points I can get!

Sally G 16 pts

I sort of understood, until the last comment. That made me worry; is being a “good parent” all about the gifts you buy your kids? Don’t they value you for much more than that? I hope it was a flip, ill-considered joke attempt, not a real comment. MistyE

Rita Arens 213 pts

I started writing a crazy-long comment yesterday but hit the character limit. I turned it into a blog post here! http://surrenderdorothy.typepad.com/surrender_dorothy/2011/12/santa-is-real-no-he-isnt-why-cant-we-all-just-get-along.html

thefamilymath 15 pts

Rita Arens Thanks for sharing your post! I commented over on your site! I considered writing a follow-up, but now I'm glad I didn't, because I think you said some things better than I could have.

Amanda_Magee 34 pts

We have three daughters and we talk about believing, not necessarily in a man they'll see putting presents under the tree, but in magic and hope. I believe that they will transition from this time of literal belief into a spiritual belief and also in a belonging to the next guard of people who will share the story.

As to how other people approach it, I've told the girls that in the coming years many people are going to believe different things in their homes, but that we cannot ever allow that to diminish what we believe.

I still believe.

phdinparenting 8 pts

Amanda_Magee Beautiful, Amanda.

We are atheists and do not believe in God. We have told our children that they are welcome to decide what they want to believe, when it comes to Santa, God, fairies, unicorns, and the tooth fairy.

As long as they believe, I'm happy to play along.

Sally G 16 pts

I am also an atheist (third generation), but I still, at age 57, believe in Santa Claus. I highly recommend the NoradSanta Web site, at which some of our military personnel who work for the NORAD security system volunteer to track Santa’s flight every Dec. 24. Great, whimsical site; really what the spirit of the season is about in many ways.phdinparenting Amanda_Magee

akl823 5 pts

Amanda_Magee well said. I still believe too.

kdwald 9 pts

It's true. I'm a manipulator. Shelf Elf to "Santa sees what we're all doing!" And I'm okay with that. I think it's great that parents are free to share Truth the way they see it. That's a huge part of parenting.

We do share The Truth about things we feel are important - we don't believe in an afterlife, so we talk about death differently than many, I think. We don't believe there is a higher power who cares about football, we do believe it's important to appreciate that luck plays a role in what we have - and so we should share what we have with those less lucky. We do not believe that our *good* luck comes from our being better or more devout people than anyone else. It's kismet, chance, crossed wires. And that's kind of how I see the idea of Santa Claus. When someone chooses to share, when someone chooses to do the right thing - despite inconvenience - that's like a Santa moment.

Sally G 16 pts

You said it well; I concur. kdwald

creativejuicez 23 pts

We really didn't start the Santa story until My husband (who has a full white beard) was asked to do Santa for the children who would be in the hospital where a friend worked during Christmas. It took some convincing as we really didn't want to start "Santa-fying" Christmas. But he agreed. "It was for the sick wee ones" he said. When our kids got a little older we brought them with us to show them that even though it's daddy in the Santa suit, it's the meaning of Santa that matters.It has grown now to include children who's families are living in women's/homeless shelters. I make fuzzy teddy bears with fabric that is so soft it won't irritate the skin of children who are undergoing chemotherapy / radiation treatments and warm fuzzies (hat, mittens, scarves) for the children in the homeless shelters. My kids make sure they are able to join their dad's excursions to the hospital and shelters every year. It taught our sons compassion, generosity and humility. Seeing the face of a sick or homeless child light up and tears glisten in the eyes of their parent(s) is a gift I wouldn't trade for anything in the world.

Choose what you feel is right for you and your family. Be ready to stick to your guns when Noah starts school (unless you plan to home-school.) because our boys took a lot of teasing about going to the hospital and homeless shelters on Christmas Eve. As far as the nay-sayers are concerned, just don't invite them over for Christmas! ~~* smile *~~

thefamilymath 15 pts

creativejuicez Your comment made me smile. Thanks for sharing about your family's tradition.

creativejuicez 23 pts

thefamilymath The funny thing is...it didn't start out as a tradition and now, it's the one tradition we wouldn't trade for anything. I love making the teddy bears and warm fuzzies. My husband loves making all the children smile even if it's just for a moment. And my boys look forward to our Christmas Eve excursions more than any presents they receive. It's really hard to express the wonderful feeling we get from doing this. Family traditions are exactly what you make of them. Good Luck and Have a wonder Christmas!

Sally G 16 pts

Great story, great tradition. Thanks so much.creativejuicez

carrien 14 pts

This is what we do. http://www.shelaughsatthedays.net/2011/12/st-nicholas-day-how-our-family-deals.html I think it has worked out really well for us so far. :)

But then, my parents never told me that Santa was real when I was a kid either, thought they still filled stocking and ate cookies. To us it was a game, not real. I am guessing that those who are so upset at the idea are those who have warm childhood memories of believing in Santa, which makes total sense to me, even if I have none myself. Mine are of other things, mostly family dinners and singing together.

thefamilymath 15 pts

carrien Thank you for posting this. I responded on your site!

Rita Arens 213 pts

I just wrote a ridiculously long comment that won't fit here. I will put it into a post and come back and leave a link!

Allison Zapata 7 pts

I understand. I feel the same way about god/jesus/religion. I don't want to lie to him, and a lot of that *I* believe is lies.

BUT, we do DO santa. He is the reason for the season for us. Love it!

To each his own!

thefamilymath 15 pts

Allison Zapata Agreed! Glad you are doing what works well for your family!

momspark 6 pts

I support you 100% and have a post on the same exact thing (http://momspark.net/so-we-dont-celebrate-santa-sue-me/) When I first published the post, I felt very much in the minority, but over time I have received more and more comments supporting the idea. Thank you for this post.

momspark 6 pts

In addition, we have had no issues whatsoever not celebrating Santa as a real person with our children. My oldest is almost 12 and when asked if "he felt not believing in Santa took away the magic of the holidays" he said, "No." The magic is in the time spent with family, thoughtful giving, the change in seasons and remembering our faith and what we are truly thankful for.

thefamilymath 15 pts

momspark Thank you for sharing this! I commented over on your site.

momspark 6 pts

thefamilymath I appreciate that, thank you!!

julieabrown 16 pts

I think you are absolutely right in your approach. I commend you, while realizing it isn't right for everyone.

Sally G 16 pts

I have never heard about an Elf on a Shelf, and I still believe in Santa Claus after 57 years of life. What is it?

thefamilymath 15 pts

Sally G I'll let someone who's familiar with Elf on the Shelf describe it, but here's the website: http://www.elfontheshelf.com/?gclid=CMfV-pGOjq0CFUQRNAodHgMkmA.

Sally G 16 pts

thefamilymath

Thanks; I am not sure that I really approve of a story that seems to be about forcing a questioning kid into unquestioning belief, but without reading the book, I will reserve judgement. The practicality of having elves maintain the “naughty or nice” list works for me, but not the use of it as a threat. Although I grew up with Santa, the “be good or else” message was never heavy-handed (of course, my sister and I, like my nephew and niece, were always pretty good anyway, so the parental incentives were not there).

TangledLou 90 pts

I wholeheartedly agree with this post and with all of your reasons. Thank you!

thefamilymath 15 pts

TangledLou Thank you. It's apparently a less popular opinion than I realized. :)

CroMom 18 pts

With all due respect, I think the arguement of "i don't want to lie to my kid" is bogus. We tell our kids little fibs and lies all the time because let's face it, sometimes the truth is too much for a little mind to take, sometimes helps them develop an imagination, and sometimes it is just convenient.

Santa is an opportunity to talk about behaving properly, the spirit of Christmas, and being kind to one another. As a kid who grew up without the myth of Santa I look forward to seeing my kids face light up because The Big Guy in Red handed them a candy cane.

I never had the chance to go to the mall to sit on santa's lap, my dad never put on the suit on Christmas Eve, and there were never any presents under our tree with a "from Santa" sticker.

ldskatelyn 13 pts

I know Santa, as in the big fat man that comes down your chimney, isn't real, but Santa the idea IS REAL. I had a friend guest post on my blog about it here:http://whatsupfagans.blogspot.com/2011/12/santa-is-real-guest-post.html I would suggesting reading it before completely writing off the big red guy.

angelt841 7 pts

It's so funny, I've always planned on not telling my kids Santa wasn't real (in the sense that hecky no there's no rotund man creeping into chimney at night, and if you put out cookies mama's gonna eat them). I don't think I believed in santa claus very long, partly because my mom, like you, HATED lying to us and really felt she was betraying us and told us she regretted even trying to make us believe it anyway (and also because of religious reasons) But mostly because as a child, I knew there was no way all of these dark skinned fat men and white skinned fat men I saw all the time could really be santa ;) (for the record, I am black lol) Even though I didn't believe in santa in the traditional sense, santa was "real" to me in a couple of ways. For one, I LOVED learning the story of the real St Nick and can still to this day remember reading the real story in a coloring book and thinking , WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME THIS BEFORE? Also, I went to school with a high population of low income students and santa would come with gifts for all students, a pure joy for many children whose parents couldn't afford much and honestly, for me too! But this made me even more thankful that my parents were able to provide for me. Instead of waiting for santa to come, we've waited every yr for my mom to finally set up all of our gifts and at the crack of dawn wed wake up, relish in joy, thank our parents. There was no loss of wonder in my childhood and people will tell u to this day I am one of the most imaginative people they know!between learning about the heavens nd God I was never at a loss for imagination, and still am not. And my mom didn't prevent me from dreaming about "what if he could be real?" I did dream about it...nd have always loved "twas the night before christmas". In short, with parenting and teaching, others will always see a more perfect way but that's why they have their own kids to try that way on lol of course there's no fool proof way but good for you for sticking to your beliefs! Sorry this is so long but I just couldn't leave you hangin' ;)

thefamilymath 15 pts

angelt841 Thanks for the response. I think Christmas is such a special time of year no matter what, and I am really looking forward to creating memories with our family!

Sally G 16 pts

The idea of Santa is so beautiful; giving to others. We beleive (at age 55, I still do!); we made lists and sent letters to Santa, but knew that we would not get everything on our list—helps kids understand early that there are limits, that one does not get everything one wants just by asking. The gifts wrapped in green tissue were from Santa; the Santas in the store were helpers, as obviously Santa could not be everywhere. We put out celery for the reindeer as well as milk and cookies. I really believe that the Santa story teaches generosity.angelt841

Oscars Mum 5 pts

I can't believe you would do this. What happened to the wonder of childhood? Kids make up things all the time - are you going to tell Noah that he is lying every time he imagines a dinosaur in his house or has an imaginary friend? That would be hypocritical if you didn't. Santa is definitely real for my family, even after we all realised the "truth" we started helping mum keep the tradition by contributing to the little "santa" presents under the tree. Christmas is not all about presents for us either, it is about family, and Santa has become part of our tradition. Now there are grand children and the wonder and joy on their faces is awesome. I think you are robbing Noah of some of the special moments of child hood as I assume you are also going to tell the truth about the tooth fairy, Easter bunny, fairies that live in fairy gardens, etc.

thefamilymath 15 pts

Oscars Mum There's a difference between playing make-believe and actually telling my child something exists that doesn't. He will know the story of Santa Claus, but we will not tell him that Santa is going to visit him or that he's watching or whatever. Same with the tooth fairy and easter bunny. If he wants to leave out cookies for "Santa," then we'll do that for fun, not because he thinks Santa is really going to come and eat the cookies. If he wants to hunt Easter eggs (which I fully support ... I think it's fun!), that's totally cool with me. Or if he wants to dress up in a ballerina costume and go trick-or-treating on Easter, then, hey! Maybe we'll do that!

I think you made a lot of assumptions about me and my family, and I hope you'll rethink this. Different is not bad, and I really hope you don't hold the same beliefs toward Jewish people who celebrate Hanukkah instead of Christmas/Santa or people who are part of religions that don't celebrate Christmas at all.

This isn't even a religious decision for us (though, like I said above, one of our reasons does relate to our religion). It's a social decision.

Sally G 16 pts

What will you tell Noah about kids at school? Will he have the right to spoil others’ belief? One of the joys of Santa is helping create the magic for younger siblings—part of the generosity training I mentioned in another reply. thefamilymath Oscars Mum

thefamilymath 15 pts

Sally GOscars Mum We will definitely work to help him understand that some families have different beliefs about Santa and that he should respect those beliefs. In some of the comments (can't remember if it was here or on my personal blog), I've seen the suggestion of telling him that some parents like to pretend that Santa is real as part of their family Christmas traditions and that we have to be careful not to ruin that for anyone. So we may address it that way. Honestly, I'm glad I have a few years before I really have to worry about this part of it, because I do think it's one of the more difficult aspects of it.

sarahknapp@ymail.com 6 pts

I think we are placing too much emphasis on happy childhood = belief in Santa. There are many things that go in to making a childhood happy. One of those things is that you are shielded from some of the hard truths about the world. I find that refreshing and necessary and very, very important. If you want to tell your child there is a Santa or isn't is your family's personal choice. I can understand the religious aspect or the not wanting to focus on "getting." But, the reasoning that you don't want to "lie" to your child is ridiculous in my opinion. Some of the most inspiring thinkers of the world have been dreamers. We don't need to take things so seriously. Most parents at some point or another will soften the truth from their children. It is not disrespectful. I don't believe it will do permanent damage. I think we are putting too much stock in how our children will turn out based on a couple of weeks of childhood fun. After all, "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams." Roald Dahl, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

FarewellStranger 14 pts

I sort of understand your reasons for doing this, and I do respect your decision, but I agree it's sad. The magic of Santa is a beautiful thing.

I do, however, object to people calling it "lying" when parents talk to their children about Santa. We are NOT lying to our kids. When my son gets older I won't be telling him that actually, no, there is no Santa Claus. Just that he's not one person.

Or maybe I could have summed up my comment with this: I'm 37 years old and I believe in Santa. And I'm really glad I do.

Sally G 16 pts

Well said! Brava!

Sagned, a 57-year-old believer (who forgets her age; I really did not age 2 years since my earlier response <g>!)

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