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What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other word would smell as sweet

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Liz Rizzo’s suggestion that engagement rings are outdated was so interesting that I thought I’d piggyback on her ideas... My big plan was to never get married. “Marriage is a tool of the patriarchy; a way for men to claim women as their property and subjugate them,” I’d argue when I was 16 years old. Proof was easy to find, starting with the fact that women lose their own identities when they get married by taking on a new name.

Granted, it’s not like a woman’s “maiden name” was not a tool of the patriarchy, either, as a child’s last name indicates which man’s property she is. By taking on a new name, she is property transferred from one man to another, so it really shouldn’t matter, should it? However, when women got married, they seem to take on their husband’s first name as well. If, for example, Suzanne Reisman married James Smith, she’d now be Mrs. James Smith. She doesn’t have any identity at all except as some sort of walking extension of her husband. I found this prospect terrifying.

Well, long story short, I obviously changed my mind at some point thanks to Husband and got married. (I even tied the knot at a relatively young age and was accused of being a child bride, but that’s another story - see picture for evidence.) But I kept my name. This caused consternation amongst some of our socially retarded peers. When we were engaged, a friend of ours (I’ll call him Stupid McFuck for this story), who knew Husband since grade school, but became friendly with me when we all were at NYU, rang one day and when I answered, greeted me as “Mrs. Husband.” I was relieved that we was on the other end of a phone rather than in the same room as me because I would have kicked his sac with my steel-toed Doc Martins, and that is not good for anyone. Instead, I inhaled sharply and explained that I had no plans to change my name. I pictured his frown as he asked in a concerned manner, "Aren't Husband's parents mad?" (Answer: Uh, no. Why would they be?) and “Well, what will your children’s last name be?” At that, I barked, “McFuck, you asshole,” and hung up on him. (Needless to say, he voted for Bush in the last two elections and thus continues to deserve the name Stupid McFuck.)

As demonstrated by the above story, my name is very important to me, and when people refer to me as Mrs. Husband, or far worse, Mrs. Husband Husband, I must fight an urge to reach into the throats and rip their larynxes out. I try very hard to make this clear to people so that I will not have the urge to hurt them. Other than douche bags my age who vcote for Bush, this vexes elderly people more than most, and they insist on referring to me as Mrs. Husband. (I once had an actual argument with one of my elderly relatives, who insisted that my name could not possibly be Suzanne Reisman, as I am married. My sister had to physically drag me away before I scratched my otherwise kind and lovable relative’s eyes out.)

I have definitely received invitations to events from my peers in which the disrespectful asses addressed the invitation to Mr. and Mrs. Husband Husband. In the early days of our marriage, this caused an acid-reflux like reaction of bitterness to boil up my throat, and I would go around muttering what a mistake it was to get married, since people refused to acknowledge that not every marriage was like theirs. I would also insist that I was obviously not invited to whatever event the invitation was for, as there is no “Mrs. Husband Husband.” Then I’d fill out the response card as, “Mr. Husband Husband and (in bold) Ms. Suzanne Reisman.” Usually people got the message and the place card was addressed properly. When that doesn’t work, I refer to the husband as “Mr. Wife Wife” and continue to address the wife by her unmarried moniker to see how they like it when people respect their marital wishes.

Given my strong feelings about changing one’s name, it has taken me a very long time to adjust to the current trend among women my age to eagerly take their husband’s name upon marriage. Almost all of

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Creatively Belle 5 pts

Hey there,

I've always been a deeply independent creature, to the point of being difficult (a very tedious and boring thing to be). I had this fear for many years that my independence could be taken away from me. As if I could loose myself and my identity to someone else.

Through the transition of breast cancer of a beloved sister I learnt that many of our fears in life are ridiculous and only exist because we create them.

I now know that no one can take my independence. No one can take my identity; unless I let them. Unless I choose for that to happen. And then I can claim it back if I want.

As I have more than half a dozen first names (variations on Belinda such as Belle for Creatively Belle, B, Bluey, Boo, Bin, etc) I would expect to have multiple surnames when I marry.

I would expect to have my fathers name I've lived with all my life for my professional and person and my husband's name for my children and school. When you marry you legally keep both and can legally use both (well here you can) so there's no problems. Anyway, anyone who googles me will find me so there's no worries there.

I think the challenges come when you define yourself through another and choose to loose yourself. I think this can happen more easily when you don't feel secure within yourself so the change is easier. With good grace there'll be time to find yourself and redefine yourself.

I've had the good fortune to live well enough and long enough to know who I am and like who I am so my definition doesn't have to come through another.

And each society is different anyway. My friend Ah Mi will marry her lover in Korea shortly and he will use her family name while retaining the ability to use his. Their children will use her family name. I like that.

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ecstewart 5 pts

As women, we've grown up with our names, so why must we change it?

I've never been one for rules and always looking for a way out if it the rule didn't suit me. Like many 'rules' in life, I'd change it into a "guideline" and this applies to my name. As a professional artist, I felt that by creating work early in life, this secured my position as a professional and therefore, no one could persuade me from changing my name -easy to say, relatively easy to spell.

With my first marriage, I made the mistake of hypenating; I wanted to be sensitive to his family and I thought it would be my statement of the modern wife. It took me years to painfully clear up my hyphenated name after the divorce -the old bitties in the city utility offices refused to erase my mistake.

Today, my second marriage to a sweetheart of a guy, Andrew, has been wonderful. His strong support with maintaining my identity as an individual and a professional remains steadfast. Paraphrasing from the book Regrettable Foods, the chapter on 'The Parade of Lost Identity' talks about the women who have submitted recipes to Swanson Foods, and being repaid by having their names shrouded in the thick coat of a married name and the horse collar of MRS.

BTW, if you haven't read The Gallery of Regrettable Foods, get it, it's gut-wrenching hiliarous.

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Caffeinated Librarian 5 pts

Likewise, I had no clue that this actually had a meaning once upon a time. Huh...that's an interesting little tidbit to learn (but I still find the practice annoying *grin*).

Thanks for the info!

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Lisa Okuhn 5 pts

When I got married I said I was taking my husband's name because I liked him better than I liked my father. That was and remains true, even now that I'm divorced. But actually the reason was because finally, after a lifetime of wickedly un-familial family situations, I felt like I had one I would like to join. I've never been sorry. I love my family: my brother-in-law (and his partner Antonio), my mother-in-law (yup, you heard it here), my wonderful wonderful sister-in-law (who kept her name), of course my niece and nephew (who don't share the name Okuhn), and yes, even my ex-husband.

Okay, so once in a while I'm sorry, like when I'm trying to make a dinner reservation. ("No, not O-Q-F-G-W. O-K-U-H-N. Okuhn.")

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Suzanne 5 pts

I had no idea this is what it meant. You learn something new every day, I tell ya. Thanks for explaining!

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Suzanne 5 pts

Unfortunately, Jim is right. Stupid McFuck seems to exist in large numbers, with maybe some slightly different iterations, across the world. Also, I don't think you are that much older than me! :)

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Debra Roby 5 pts

In formal etiquette, Mrs. husband husband means a woman who's husband is still alive, whereas Mrs. givenname husband means a widow. So a woman loses her mate and gets her name first name back as a consolation prize.

Don't like it and don't see a need to advertise my marital availability (or unavailability) through my "formal" first name. But I often need to remind myself that the "rules" we operate under were developed in a very different decade with different needs.

And part of the difficulty now is both the acceptance of a standard in a differing time and the inability to standardize a modern practice to apply instead.

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NYFarf 5 pts

I love my parents and I liked my old name, but I changed my name because it was what I wanted to do. No one asked me to and no one encouraged me. I am not fading away because I am now Mrs. Husband - I like how it sounds and what it symbolizes. But, to each their own. I respect the choices of others and they should repect mine. And if it takes a few extra seconds to look me up in your outlook contacts, its not really that big a deal.

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A Elliot 5 pts

I kept my maiden name when I got married. First of all, I didn't want to change my name because it's mine and I was happy with it. Second, I was starting to put together my application for veterinary school and I didn't want there to be any confusion. A friend of mine changed her name when she was in law school. Then she tried applying to a joint MPH program at her school and the school got all confused by her new last name. Her application ended up being incomplete and there was all this bs to get it straightened out because they kept on insisting that they couldn't talk to her about whether or not Jane Smith's transcript came in since she was Jane Smith Green and not Jane Smith. What I find interesting is that most women take their husband's last names, yet it can be a pretty complicated process. I'm always surprised when I read articles saying that women should take their husbands last names that there's never any talk about making it easier for them to do that. Right now I go by Mrs. Husband's Last Name at the pediatrician's office and my husband goes by Mr. Elliot at the vet's office.
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smartl 5 pts

I actually like the way many celebrities handle the official name change at marriage. I love the idea of taking my boyfriend's name when we get married. I want our children to share a name with both of us, but personally I am not sure why it is so easy for me to give up my surname, especially since I think my surname is considerably cooler than his. I think it's a romantic statement. I will definitely be changing my surname at marriage, both legally and socially.

I am not so sure, however, if I will change it professionally. I never thought it would be a big deal because I thought it would take much longer to build up any sort of career credibility than it has in fact taken. I'm not any sort of superstar, but I've been headhunted twice now. My name is out there, and it's recognisable and memorable, which is a huge advantage. Then there's the problem that in most companies, your email address is based on your name, so if you get married and change your name, your contact information changes. I know how lazy people are about updating their address book, even if you send out (multiple) reminders, so it would impact people's ability to contact me and possibly go so far as to cost me business.

So I will be changing my name, but I *may* keep my current surname in professional circles, as most celebrities do (for example, while married to Brad Pitt, I believe Jennifer Aniston's legal name was actually Jennifer Pitt, but she continued to work under the name Jennifer Aniston which had made her famous). I haven't decided yet, and it will probably depend on the state of my career at the time I get married.

maryrwise 5 pts

I kept my name when I got married, way back in 1980. I only had one friend who changed her name. Oddly, though, I never felt like keeping one's name ever really became a trend! Outside of my circle of friends, no one I knew kept her name.

When I told my husband that I didn't want to change my name, he said, "Well, you know what? I'm in love with Mary Wise. I don't know anyone named Mary Flynn." And that only added to my conviction that he was the one for me.

Besides, my name's a complete sentence (Mary R. Wise). Ungrammatical, but complete. How could I give that up? ;-)

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heivilinj 5 pts

[whispers]
They keep cloning him!

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heivilinj 5 pts

I had a friend in college who didn't take her husband's name because hers was so much easier to spell.

And after living forever with a name that is a) impossible to pronouce if you see it or b) impossible to spell if you hear it, I can understand.

Jim Heivilin

Caffeinated Librarian 5 pts

...on what his name was, quite frankly. Because, like Jenna, no one can ever get my name right. If I liked his last name better than mine, I think I'd ditch mine in a heartbeat, without a second thought. I can't imagine how the process of doing so would turn me into a simpering, subservient nothing if I wasn't already that before the name change, but like you say...a rose by any other name...

I will agree that the tradition of addressing married women as "Mrs. Husband Husband" is annoying and outdated. I mean, what does it really mean? The only time that phrase would actually be accurate would be if your husband got a sex-change operation.

-CL

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Mari Kuraishi 5 pts

Back in 1988 when I got married the first time I ditched my maiden name since it was unpronounceable and hubby had a good Anglo-Saxon name, and because, really, I got married to find safe harbor from the raging insanity in my own family, and I think that intent colored my desire to both ditch my own name and take up his. That was in the heyday of women keeping their names, and people politely questioned why I changed my name. Then I got married again about a year and a half ago, and after 12 years of professional life conducted under my maiden name (after my divorce) there was no question I would keep my name this time. But now everyone I know (ages 25-42) who is getting married these days is taking their husband's name, and when my response to, "Did you think about changing your name [this time]?" was a "Hell, no," I found out I actually hurt hubby (#2)'s feelings.

Can't do right, it seems, except by yourself.

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Debra Roby 5 pts

I'll admit it, my "maiden" last name and my "married" last name were both 4 letters (two vowels and two consonants, an "r" sound and an "e" sound). I took the easy way out and took my husband's name only because it's less likely to be mispronounced. I don't have any professional credibility built up under the maiden name. I don't really care about last names.

But nobody in their right mind had ever address something to me as Mrs. (male-name) Roby, if they want me to open it. I never gave up my first name (though I did want to change it to Gretchen!!). Yes, they introduced us as S and D at the reception with the threat of something broken otherwise.

I will also admit to total confusion on how to address formal invitations (which are usually quite small) with a multiple of names. So I occasionally take the lazy way out, there too. I try to not too.

Maybe if each of us make up a set of mailing labels with the appropriate method of writing our addresses, and hand these out as wedding favors? Or include them in the wedding invitation? Start a trend? If I had the right thing to look at in my address book, I surely couldn't do it wrong.

That way I could know each person's desired address.

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Jamaila 5 pts

Changing my name is something I occasionally think very hard about, because I'm a writer, and I think about publishing. To be fair, so far it hasn't come up -- I didn't say I was a wildly successful writer! But as my writing becomes a little more widely known, a little further spread around the internet -- which is happening, slowly but surely -- so does my name.

I'm planning to be married at some point in the near future -- we've set three dates and then we keep deciding to spend the money on things like houses instead, or we decide we want to both be out of school and then one of us starts another degree program -- and I'm planning on changing my name.

But I have to sit down and think about it -- if I were to suddenly gain a great deal of recognition, if I were to (if only!) write the next wildly popular novel or something: would I still change my name?

I'm not totally sure.

One of the things that affects me a little differently than I think might have affected the generations before me is the internet. Most of my writing is done there; my public face is there. Changing my name isn't just going to affect the invitations I get and what people call me at dinner parties (so far, no worries -- I haven't been invited to any); it's also going to affect how people Google me. And that's a big part of the way I operate my life right now.

I'm fortunate in that I have a very uncommon first name (if only I could go back and tell my fourth-grade self that I'm saying that right now!), so I have to admit that it's probably not going to make a great deal of difference whether people are Googling for 'Jamaila Cohen-Michaelson' or 'Jamaila Brinkley' -- there aren't so many Jamailas out there that it's ever going to be a huge issue.

I suppose what I really have to think about when I do make the final decision is whether or not my last name really defines me. As a writer, I'd rather let my writing define me, and let my last name be something short, that fits on forms. ;) But if I've magically achieved a great deal of public awareness about me while I'm still a hyphenate -- maybe it's a little more important to make sure people can still figure out that it's me -- for the sake of book sales!

Jamaila

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Liz Rizzo 5 pts

Hi Suzanne,

I'm so glad my post inspired you to blog this!

You know, the name change thing is so personal, that I too try to just come from a place of respect for my friends about it. And as true as that is, it really is, I still feel like this:

The man doesn't change his name and changing your name is a massive pain.

When the couple comes out and they announce, "Mr. and Mrs. Husband" I always imagine the bride disappearing or simply fading a bit.

When I have to learn a girlfriend's "new" name, or can't find someone because of their "new" name, it ticks me off.

And yeah, I absolutely hate it that most women today don't seem to think twice about it. It makes me feel like we've given up on something that was really, really important and meaningful.

So yeah, my name isn't going anywhere.

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ninjapoodles 5 pts

six years, and just the other day we were filling out some tax forms, and Alex looked at them, and said, "So, you haven't ever changed your name?"

I said, "Um, nope, just haven't gotten around to it--I've changed it everywhere except Federally." And that's the truth, really. I have added his name to mine, and use it in practice every day, and especially when it's something non-official, largely because I don't have to SPELL it like I do my maiden name (AND since we moved we now live on the street named a common noun, so I don't have to spell THAT, either, yayy!), but as far as going through the official channels, such as, say, the Social Security Administration...eh. I'll get around to it. I looked back over at Alex, trying to gauge whether or not his feelings were hurt.

"Oh."

And it didn't come up again.

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Lisa Stone 6 pts

Yes:

Anyway, after beating people over the head with blunt objects in an attempt to force them to respect my choice, I realized that I should back the fuck up when it came to judging my friends’ decisions about what they want to be legally known as.

Right on. Last name libertarianism.

I may not like your choice, I may even guffaw at it -- but I'll defend your ability to call yourself what you want until I'm hoarse.

Oh Suzanne, I had no idea that we were both friends with Stupid. And I'm so much older than you are. How's this possible?

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JennaHatfield 11 pts

I dig.

I also like the name Stupid McFuck.

That said, I took Hatfield because no one could fucking pronounce my maiden name. And I was tired of sitting in the back of the classroom. And it didn't fit on any name line... EVER. And, damn it, I was going to stick it to my parents REAL GOOD!

Oh, and it's cool having a last name that is "infamous" so that everyone can ask you, "So, didja kill any McCoys recently? Ah-yup!" "No, Stupid McFuck (see!), the feud has been over for a long ass time. Now, unless you're a McCoy, I don't see it starting up any time soon."

But yes, sometimes I miss my maiden name. At least I was rare. (Maiden name wasn't even on the PBS list of top 55,000 surnames.) No one knew how to say it, but yes, we were a rare breed. Here's hoping my brother has a few kids. Maybe a girl who won't get tired of the name, the teasing, the misspellings... and keep it just for spite.

I mean, that's the kind of daughter my brother is destined to have. It's pay back. Pay. back.

;)

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sassymonkey 6 pts

but in the province of Quebec in Canada it's crazy difficult to legally take your husbands name. Name change applications are only approved under exceptional circumstances and marriage is not considered an exceptional circumstance.

The women I know there often take their husbands name socially but professionally and legally they keep their own.

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Erin Kotecki Vest 5 pts

...says the woman with waaay too many names, because she couldn't decide.
I wasn't giving up my name, but was also tired of the confusion of remaining just me after marriage.
Lazy won. I just added a name.

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