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Last week, we were discussing Freedom From Sex at my other blog, the point being that one of the surprise boons of aging is release from raging hormones.

No one tells you this stuff when you’re younger, and before interest in sex begins to wane after menopause, you have no idea how relentless and controlling is this primal urge because you’ve never known anything else. But when your mind is at last awakened from the fog of sex, it is like being let out of prison.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that sexual desire disappears. In my case and so far, it’s as strong as ever, but not constant and free-floating as when I was younger. It appears now only when there is an object of desire in the vicinity which isn’t often, due to older men’s attraction to younger women and my own greater discrimination.

Sex is always a hot topic, but hardly anyone speaks of waning libido and although it is entirely anecdotal, what was most interesting to me about this post last week was the differing reactions of elder women and men.

“Hear! Hear! Brava!” wrote Joy D. “I wholeheartedly agree and identified with all you wrote.”

“Raging hormones: disease of the too young!” said Cop Car.

Kay Dennison explained: “I'm in a relationship for the present, but it's based more on common interest and friendship than any of the other stuff and we are just fine with that.”

And from Elizabeth, “I have to agree! At 60, I am happier than I have ever been. I, too, have ditched 2 husbands in favor of cats. I am GLAD it is gone.”

There are more who echo the sentiment including this from Virginia DeBolt with tongue perhaps not so firmly in cheek: “It's the loss of libido that leads us into wisdom.”

Fewer men responded and

Paul disagreed with Virginia: “I am 58 and still have an active libido and I do not think for a second that a loss of libido leads one to wisdom, because it doesn't necessarily.” Come on, Paul, lighten up.

sereneambition rejects the entire idea of diminished interest in sex with age: “I wonder if losing the libido is natural? If there are examples of late life lusting, then it is a choice, not an inevitable fact of life.” Could it be he is whistling past the graveyard?

Dick, on the other hand, obviously takes this subject with the humor it properly deserves. He left this tidbit: “British jazz singer, writer & surrealist, George Melly (80 this year, I believe) remarked that losing his libido was like being unchained from a wild beast.”

Whether it’s true or not, many women would agree that men’s egos are more closely tied to their sexual function than women’s. Not that women aren’t equally erotic; I have no doubt each one of those who reported relief at their hormones hitting free-fall, squeezed out every bit of pleasure possible during their more lustful years.

The important thing, I think, is to follow the inclinations of each stage of life, to accept normal changes when they appear and get on with what engages you next. To be stuck at a previous age is awkward to observe – from within and without. I am willing to be proved wrong, but women appear to have a better grasp of this than men.

* Contributing Editor Ronni Bennett also blogs at Time Goes By, What it’s really like to get older.

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

What you say regarding men's egos being tied to sexual prowess is so true, at least in my experience it is.

As for the hormones raging less, at 46 I have my moments when I wish I could take a pill and make the lust hormones go away, but so far no luck. Raging hormones sometimes nudge us to some pretty stupid choices. Still, what I feel today is nothing like the fire of youth, and I'm happy for that. With age comes sensibility, control, and increasing interests in life beyond sex and romance.

However, the see-saw of "He loves me, he loves me not" can still be a twisting mindgame despite reining in the raging hormones. While sexual fire stabilizes, chemistry with certain people we want in our lives may be as high as ever.

"Love is liquid. Be drunkards!" ~~Nordette ( http://www.goddessblogs.com )

Claudecf 5 pts

I find it refreshing not to be driven by hormones. What's wrong with some loss of libido? I dislike the concept of a pool of available playmates ;) Am not sure what it means, but just don't see people around me in that light.

And sorry, ageing in general is not about loss, but loss of hormones activity is just a medical fact. Now either you adjust to it or you fight it.
I used to fight it with Hormones Replacement Therapy, not really for the libido part, but just because it felt good in my bones and joints. Now that course is forbidden to me because of breast cancer. So I have adjusted to it and find other ways of getting my bones and joints to feel better.

Joared 5 pts

I think the conclusion at the end of this piece, states precisely what best equips us to move comfortably through the aging process: "...follow the inclinations of each stage of life..." We hardly need a professional guide for that.

Much of what you say about sex and libido, based on anecdotal accounts, certainly rings true for me and correlates with the honest accountings from numerous others, male and female, I've heard over the years. Nice to have the subject discussed more openly.

I definitely agree we become more discriminating as we age, which means fewer may light the fire for us, even if we're meeting as many, or more others, compared to when we were younger.

Those at any age whose libido urges them to keep going at it, on any terms, can do so, while all others in those same circumstances may be just as content with their own natural lower libido level, and are enjoying life every bit as much, or more. After all, we are all individuals, alike, but differing in many acceptable ways.

Yes, I would agree too, that some men have their ego tied more closely to their libido than most of the women I've known. The concept of forever high libido is just one more example of eternal youth being sold in our culture. Sooner or later the promoters of that idea generally prove to be merely seeking an angle for $$$. We encounter it all the time, given the way our culture and advertising promotes and exploits sex. We would be well-advised to keep that in mind whenever we encounter those selling forever young.

sereneambition 5 pts

I didn't question that people can have diminished desire as they age, but I continue to argue that it is not inevitable or biologically programmed into us...it is a cultural story that lots of folks "buy into". As you point out, availability of someone to 'play' with is a big factor but that has been true at every age. When we're in the mood the pool of available playmates increases considerably. It seems to me that you are arguing from the same logic of 'age=deterioriation' that you were so eloquently arguing against in your first blog. The idea that aging is mostly about loss, including loss of libido, is at the heart of many agist stereotypes. I find it much more empowering to think in terms of choices and if I am 'whisling past the graveyard' then when my time comes, I hope I have the presence of mind to choose it rather than justify its passing.

Shae Hadden 5 pts

The way you talk about it, sounds like you have to wait for an acceptable 'object of desire' to be around for you to have the chance for any 'pleasure' in life.

The women in my circle of friends certainly don't talk the way you do...first of all, they don't talk about men as objects. Second, they don't pin their 'pleasure' on sexual experiences alone. And lastly, they know that wisdom has nothing to do with sex.

Sounds like you're just looking for reasons to justify not getting any...

MyMusings 5 pts

I've been exploring my own changes lately. My hormones are running amok and as a result so is my sex life.

I think the real key here is to recognize and to discuss the changes that are happening. You're right. Women are much more willing to accept change. I believe that one of the keys is the fact that we are willing to share and learn from the changes that take place over time and to embrace the natural aging process.

I look forward to learning more from you.

M My Menopausal Musings ( http://MyMenopausalMusings.blogspot.com )