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Yes, the transphobia thing. If you aren't up-to-speed on this recent flare-up, here's some context: short version (Sour Duck) / longer version (Nexy's Cocoon).

Happy New Year everyone.

"I believe that some self-named feminists try to hide their own transphobia under the guise of feminism. By claiming that one’s anti-trans views are really just about being a feminist and anti-patriarchal, one creates a convenient moral shield for one’s own prejudices." — Transphobia in Feminism’s Clothing, AngryBrownButch

"Can someone please explain to me how saying you don't want to share a public bathroom with a transperson is fundamentally different from saying you don't want to share a public bathroom with a person of color?" — this is what tolerance IS, Angry and Queer

"But I find myself caught between two sides: it seems if you aren't pro-trans liberation to the point where you fully accept a Male to Female in a women-only space, then you are being transphobic. Increasingly, women-born-only spaces are being assimliated as we are accepting MTF people into our space. We are told that we should accept a person who is born male but identifies as a woman, as the same as us. I don't share this view. I do however want to support trans rights. " — Feminism, Trans and Women-Only Spaces, Blog of Feminist Activism Against Porn

"To Camp 2 campers: While transgender politics is not my area of expertise, I'm certainly not going to stand in the way of anyone who feels like transgendering. To suggest that I am 'transphobic,' or that I support discrimination against, vilification of, or inconvenient restroom conditions for transpersons—while perhaps understandable given the circumstance of the recent unpleasantness—is to grossly mischaracterize my views." — Twisty Goes to Camp: A Very Special Episode, I Blame the Patriarchy

"Why did a post that I spent about two minutes writing up and which I wasn't particularily elloquent get over 300 comments on it? I just couldn't figure it out. But as I began to look around at my other posts, the posts about the young non-citizen babies being imprisoned and finger printed right here in the u.s., the posts about violence against women of color, the posts about violence against asian feminists, the posts about radical women of color theory—the posts with a handfull of comments—I began to realize, the reason this is such a huge conversation is because it's not about women of color or trans women/people of color (thank you to dead inside for helping me to see that).

"It was about two (largely) white communities that have had serious battles with each other in the past." — Blogging while a woman of color, Women of Color Blog

Melinda Casino's personal blog is Sour Duck.

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Koan Bremner 5 pts

For anybody who doesn't have the time, energy or stomach to plough through the array of blog posts, and thousands (literally) of comments that this whole episode has generated, maybe consider this:

* If you have a blog; and
* If you allow comments on that blog; and
* If you have a comment moderation policy;

Are you responsible for the comments that make it through? Even if the moderation is automatic, or you are away from your blog for a while, or {insert any reason for not immediately reading every comment that gets made on your blog} - what does it say about you (as the blog owner) if, on becoming aware of real concerns with some of the comments that have been made on your blog, you:

*Say* nothing substantive; and
*Do* nothing substantive

I think it's a reasonable assumption that readers of BlogHer read blogs, comment on blogs, or run blogs (or some combination of all three) - and therefore, *whatever* your opinion of trans people, radical feminists, or any aspect of this episode, you can at least form an opinion on this one aspect of it - and express it.

My opinion? There was hate speech in that comment thread. And, despite that blog having a very well-defined comment policy, that hate speech remains there. Not as an object lesson in what hate speech looks like, but because "I find I am not sufficiently constituted to slog through that whole stupid thread merely to make a show of dominating a few morons ( http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/29/cam... )". Well, gee, I realise that such slogging through might have taken a little time and effort - better, of course, to issue them with a stern warning along the lines of "The offending parties know who they are, and in future will either put a sock in it or risk disemvowelation. ( http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/12/29/cam... )"

Yep, I bet that really put them in their place.

Liz Henry 5 pts

Thanks for the link roundup, Melinda! I followed some of this discussion, but it got so huge that it was overwhelming. The comments on many of the threads became quickly hateful and difficult to stay with and read. My hope for this discussion is that exposing the (really horrific) hate level will also help to encourage radical or other feminists to speak up and be supportive of transwomen, transmen and cis-gendered people.

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Koan Bremner 5 pts

Transphobia among some so-called feminists, that is - I wrote about it here ( http://www.blogher.com/node/4269 ) on BlogHer, nine months ago. And it will continue to crop up again.