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This is just silly. According to a study that took place at the University of Stirling in Scotland:

A woman prefers a more masculine man when she is fertile and looking for a fling rather than a mate for life...

The finding suggests the value that women place on masculinity changes with context and with women's reproductive cycles and immediate goals.

They took these women, at various stages of their menstrual cycles, and showed them pictures of different male body types. Some of the pictures were of manly men, while the others were more "feminized." The researchers asked the ladies to rate their own attractiveness, as well as the male body type they would prefer for a long- or short-term relationship.

Fertile women chose the masculine version of each image 15 percent more often, on average, than women who were not fertile. [...] The effect was strongest if they were looking for a short-term partner rather than a long-term one, and if they considered themselves attractive.

Choosing a certain image 15% more often doesn't sound very impressive. But if they did get a higher percentage, it would have worried me.

Previous research has shown that women view facial masculinity—square jaws and well-defined brow ridges—as good characteristics for short-term partners, while more feminine traits are perceived as better for long-term mates. [...]

Men with hard bodies and sculpted jaws may therefore have better genes for producing better babies, so it would make sense for fertile women to be attracted to them.

What I don't understand is someone who would look at pictures and say, "Give me that hard body for a short-term fling and the soft-bellied geek for life." Why wouldn't the hard bodied man have just as good of a chance as the "feminized" man? What if Mr. Hard Body is a teddy bear who would treat you like gold, and Mr. Soft Body enjoys hitting on your friends? Their explanation:

[W]omen tend to prefer more feminine body types when they are less fertile, probably because high levels of testosterone makes men less likely to stay around.

Research suggests that men who are less masculine tend to invest more in relationships.

This just seems like a huge generalization. I'm sure there are plenty of testosterone-filled men out there who are content with staying in short-term relationships. But does that mean I'll purposefully bypass a manly man if I'm looking for something long-term, or point at a picture of a feminized male body and say, "That's the body of the man I want to marry?" Hell, no. Pictures don't tell you anything about a person.

If they wanted to make more generalizations, they could say that women who dye their hair blond and get breast implants are better for short-term relationships, too. And that might be true for some women—but certainly not all of them. Maybe they should do a new study: I would be interested to see if manly men and "feminized" men have been surveyed to see what percentage are actually in happy, long-term relationships.

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Zandria 5 pts

Dr. Jilly: You got your comment in just as I was responding to the others! I totally agree with you here. Masculinity is socially constructed (I was an undergraduate sociology major in college, so I heard about this issue all the time), and I'm sure that had something to do with the answers given in this study.

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Zandria 5 pts

I'm glad I'm not alone with my thoughts on this issue. Bill, I liked your point about us not knowing what the women looked like, or what the pictures looked like. And the article did make the point that a less attractive woman (in her own opinion) is more likely to be insecure, so she'd be more likely to think that, like you said, "The less 'manly' he is, the more likely he's going to settle for her."

Laurie: I don't think manly men are less likely to invest in a relationship, either.

Melinda: It doesn't surprise me that these studies get more attention in the U.S. than elsewhere. We Americans tend to put too much emphasis on these kinds of things.

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Melinda Casino 5 pts

"This just seems like a huge generalization."

Bingo.

I've come across this study before, or one similar to it, in the newspaper or on TV. This sort of research never passes my "bunk-o-meter".

There's a few underlying themes to these studies which support biological explanations for human behaviors. One of the underlying themes is we have little choice and are controlled by our biological drives. This narrative supports the status quo, because it gives little scope for individual or societal change.

And, inevitably, these studies are given wide circulation through print and news media, because it confirms simplistic notions about gender. And traditional gender roles, I should add.

I moved from the U.K. recently and noticed that the coverage that U.S. newspapers gave these studies (the ones that support biological explanations) was *markedly* greater than in the UK.

Although the BBC news and the Guardian are not exempt from running stories on these studies.

lauriewrites 5 pts

I've read this type of research before and it always gives me pause...Then I forget to keep track of whether I'm after "feminized" (sort of an icky word, no?) men when I'm in the mood to get married.

Also, the "those who are less masculine invest more" is bunk, and as for why I know this...well, I'm not going there at this point. ; )

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Bill Cammack 5 pts

hehehe I agree with you that it comes down to the individual relationship and the individuals involved. If we humor the creators of this study and dig, dig and dig for something that's not just hilarious, just for the sake of discussion...

I would generalize their generalizations to mean that if women aren't planning to "use" a man sexually, they're more likely to date or marry men that they aren't very physically attracted to. The women are choosing males because physically, they were born males, but not because they have any need for or interest in traditional male characteristics or behaviors.

They seem to be equating lack of "manliness" with lack of libido and lack of opportunity for sex with other women and more ease of control and potential for fidelity.
Research suggests that men who are less masculine tend to invest more in relationships.

I would think this would be useful for a woman that was insecure about her ability to keep a man. The less "manly" he is, the more likely he's going to settle for her. The study also seems to imply that women are more interested in being in a relationship with a man they might be able to keep than getting sex that they actually enjoy. :D

On top of that, the study was based on menstrual cycles. By definition, a "cycle" repeats itself. They're implying that women want something different at one "time of the month" than they want for all the rest of the month. They want the manly-man when it's time to get it on, and they want the feminine-guy when sex isn't an issue. What does that say for the rates of cheating and divorce? What does that say for fidelity? I suppose feminine men should keep an eye on their wives during the days surrounding ovulation! LOLOL :D

Anyway, the whole thing's ridiculous. There's no telling what these women looked like in the first place. There's no telling what the "manly" men they were shown looked like, and there's no telling what the "feminine" guys looked like either. To base a study on a cycle, you have to concede that there's a percentage of every single "month" that women who are involved in a long-term relationship are with a guy that they *don't* want to be with. Either their man that they like for sex isn't good at being in a relationship with them, or their man that's good for a relationship isn't any good at having sex with them. By definition, ALL OF THE WOMEN end up dissatisfied at some point every.single.month.

I'm not inclined to believe that's a valid conclusion. :D

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drjillygirl 5 pts

There are so many methodological flaws here that I want to spit.

The report says this is about "facial masculinity," not actual masculinity itself. Therefore, from a logical research point of view, no conclusions can be drawn about masculinity unless there is a connection between this "facial masculinity" and actual masculinity.

And what is "masculinity" anyway? It's not about being male - it's about a socially constructed definition of what a male "should" be. Therefore, unless there is a connection between masculinity (let alone "facial" masculinity, whatever that is) and testosterone levels, which is not in evidence, there can be no conclusions drawn about testosterone levels affecting fertile heterosexual women's taste in men. Furthermore, these were pictures, with no testosterone in evidence.

I suspect that the well-known "social acquiescence" effect, in which social expectations play havoc with respondents' choices in social research, played a big part here (to say nothing of the "researcher fame-wish" and "please say life isn't random" effects).

And this story will be repeated all over the place, "proving" to people that women are just a mess of hormones.

Dr. Jillian Todd Weiss