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As I sit and re-read the post, or more accurately, the comments to the post at Body Impolitic, about the BlogHer Con panel "Our Bodies, Our Blogs", I'm eating cream horns. Yes, more than one. I do like cream horns and am thoroughly enjoying reading women talking about "fat" and "diet" and "body image" and "discrimination" while eating them. And no, I'm not going to worry all day long about how many fat grams or calories I just put into my body. I'm also not going to restrict calories over the course of the day or increase my exercise to make up for these yummy cream horns. Nope, they're not a healthy food choice but I'm enjoying them and that's what's important to me. I deserve a cream horn break once in awhile!

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, let's look at the body image discussion that happened over there:

Laurie said:

I’m planning to talk about body image in the broader sense. Obviously I’ll be talking about the issues of fat, beauty, power and health at any size - but body image (as folks who read us know) includes a lot more. When the beauty standard is young, blond, white and thin, it leaves almost all of us out. It leaves most women and men feeling “never attractive enough”, causes endless discrimination, and makes billion$ for the beauty and diet industries. There is so much we can talk about - fat/size, aging, ability/disability, color, “right” facial features, class, children.
I’d love to hear readers’ ideas and stories that I can bring to the panel.

And here are some of the comments that I was interested in:

Susan Senator Says:
That’s great that you’re going!
I wonder about getting in a thing or two about imperfection and disability, how little acceptance there is for bodies/brains that are different in that sense. It takes more than a “handicapped” parking sign, you know! :-)

SarahR says:
I think about the “tyranny of pretty” a lot- a lot of women feel oppressed by the need to look good all the time. I kind of enjoy it and think of it as “dress-up play” and don’t feel oppressed by makeup and fun clothing. I think a lot of women have ambivalent feelings about this, not knowing if they truly enjoy shaving their legs and wearing lipstick or if they’re just really well-conditioned by the culture.

Rachel wonders:
I do have a question about the inclusion of Wendy McClure on the panel. I have read Wendy’s book and catch her articles in each edition of Bust I receive. She is a very smart, witty and clever writer. But, her book details her attempts to lose weight with Weight Watchers, and her site details her Weight Watchers chronicles and other diet-related attempts to lose weight. Wendy may not have bought into the diet mantra as other women, but she’s still following a diet plan which has been shown to have a very, very low effectiveness rate for sustained weight loss.

And Wendy responds:
I understand your concern, Rachel, but it should be evident to anyone who’s read my blog for the past two years that I’m not still following Weight Watchers. If there’s anything I represent about Weight Watchers at all, it’s that dismally low long-term effectiveness rate. To paraphrase another commenter here, I’m not a “static image.” My life didn’t stop at the end of my book—which, to be clear, was never about being a so-called diet success story to begin with, and in fact was about my ambivalance with the whole endeavor.

RW had a very long comment, and here is a snippet:
When we speak about women and body image there is a risk that we promote the idea that society has a scale (i.e. a measure) against which to measure beauty - with ‘good’ at one end and ‘bad’ at the other. Actually, I don’t think this is true - there are a multitude of scales, and getting higher marks on one invariably means getting lower marks against another measure.
What this means is that if we aren’t careful then campaigns about body image can actually add to the problem rather than improving things (because we promote the idea of there being a single measure).

And Wendy comes back with some questions:
For awhile now I’ve felt that when you put a photo of yourself online you subject yourself to an “internet gaze” wherein others feel fully entitled to comment, compliment, or correct you. Doesn’t

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toledolefty 5 pts

I think there was enough interest in the body image topic to support more than one panel on this topic -- one weight/size related and one for other body image issues. It seemed like the people who were interested in non-weight-related body topics felt that they got shorted in favor of the fat/weight loss discussion.

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Jen
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http://angryfatgirlz.blogspot.com
http://toledolefty.blogspot.com

Wendy McClure 5 pts

For your really wonderful responses to this. I hope that what I can bring to the panel on Friday contributes as much to the discussion as your posts have here. I'm looking forward to meeting everyone on Friday!

lauriewrites 6 pts

And I can tell you without equivocation that NOTHING can earn you space on a body image panel like being a veteran of Weight Watchers (first time: 13 years old, and I've probably registered for the program ten or twelve times over the years) who's lived to tell, and currently espouses no particular diet "regime" but would LOVE it if all of a sudden the magic bullet did appear. Because even though I aspire to self-acceptance and self-actualization and being happy with who I am, the diet cycle can be very hard to break, especially after 25 years.

I've been reading Wendy McClure's blog and books for a couple of years now and she remains one of my favorite bloggers/authors. Since when does trying to lose weight through a variety of means in spite of an intellectual understanding and historical proof that it might not work not have a place on a panel about body image? I have plenty to spout off about regarding Weight Watchers, and a lot to share at the same time about a dynamic physical and emotional relationship with food and my own body. It took me a long time to get to this relatively stable point and I still struggle with food every day. I hope I never go back to Weight Watchers, and would like to think that I'd never give another dime to a weight-loss organization of any sort. But the thing is that sometimes I feel like I need structure again - I start to freak out a little bit - and those e-tools and the "Weight Watchers at Work" emails and the like start to lull me into thinking, yet again, that it's what I need. I know it's not, but it's an old habit.

Wendy's blog has never been just about Weight Watchers, dieting, or anything else. It's shown (with humor, self-deprecation, occasional frustration and always intelligence) that push-pull of laughing in the face of the diet industry while trying to make something work in relation to it that so many women I know (and certainly I) have gone through. If all the panelists had been free of diets either now or always, I'd consider it a misrepresentation of this very complex issue - not Blogher's style.

Can't wait - I know this one will be awesome. (Thanks, Denise, for highlighting this topic.)

Laurie

LaurieWrites ( http://lauriewrites.typepad.com )
Contributing Editor, Pets and Family, Blogher.org

toledolefty 5 pts

I think that it all comes down to what we want for ourselves. I know a lot of people claim to want to be "healthy" just because that's more socially acceptable than saying they want to look and feel better -- personally I think these are all good reasons, as long as we're not shooting for something that's totally unrealistic or oppressive for us to maintain. It's an issue I've tried to address on my blog in the past and probably will write about in the future: How do we love ourselves as we are while still having things we'd like to improve.

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http://yawwblog.blogspot.com
http://angryfatgirlz.blogspot.com
http://toledolefty.blogspot.com

Denise 12 pts moderator

This is an issue that I have struggled with for several years.

For a long time I worked almost exclusively with people trying to lose weight and I had a difficult time with that. Yes, there are times when people need to lose weight for health reasons but there are other times when people try to lose weight because they feel like they have to, because they don't like the way their bodies look, because they don't feel successful or happy because they aren't skinny.

The question is - where is the line between losing weight for overall health and losing weight because society has convinced us that if we do we'll be better, more successful, or happier.

No I don't think weight watchers or other types of healthy weight loss programs are bad, but there are problems with them or with how we use them.

~Denise
Fast Times @ Homeschool High ( http://fasttimes.clubmom.com ) & Flamingo House Happenings ( http://www.flamingohouse.net</a )

toledolefty 5 pts

It sort of implies that people following Weight Watchers are unwelcome -- hopefully that is not the case. I think of the diet as a tool, not something that defines me -- I have found the plan helpful, though I'm the first to admit its flaws. If I could have lost weight on my own, I definitely would have saved myself the weekly dues.

I don't think wanting to lose a few pounds is necessarily incompatible with loving yourself. I'll be interested to see what others think.

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Jen
http://yawwblog.blogspot.com
http://angryfatgirlz.blogspot.com
http://toledolefty.blogspot.com

laurie toby edison 5 pts

I'm really sorry that I'm coming so late to this conversation. I really appreciated what Denise said aboout out Body Impolitic post. I was away at a show and then I had a combinatin of log on problems and browser issues. Anyway I'm glad to be here.

The Victorian's made sex a sin. We do it to food often calling them "sinful or evil. Like when someone says "I shouldn't eat that chocolate it's a sin", or "I feel evil, I'll eat that tonight." They are both pleasures (among other things), but we don't need sex to live but we do need food. I don't think that demonizing food is good for folks.

I agree that no one is immune to the body image issue. As I said in Body Impolitic, it would be pretty hard to be immune with a multibillion dollar diet and beauty industry constantly working to create body hatred.

And as I said in the post, one of things I'm really hoping for is to hear people's stories.

NinaMarquisMD 5 pts

I'm so glad this topic is out there on BlogHer! We women definitely get caught up in the negative consequences of what they put in their mouths in terms of how it's going to make our bodies look. So often, we fail to take in the positive physiological effect food can have. Like why carbs make us feel good even if the high-fat ones make us unhappy about our waistline.

Women need carbs for physiological reasons. Eating carbs allows the brain to make serotonin, and serotonin makes you feel good, takes away cravings, and makes you feel full. The reason women need carbs even more than men (although men need them, too) is because women have 50% less brain serotonin than men. And they need more serotonin during menopause and PMS, by the way. Ever know of a guy who did well on Atkins' or South Beach? Probably. Women don't do as well. We need carbs. This was discovered over decades of research at MIT by Judith Wurtman, PhD, an expert in the field of appetite-mood-obesity-brain connections.

Women don't need all of the fat they eat which often numbs the emotions rather than producing the calm energy low fat carbs do. And protein interferes with the brain's ability to make serotonin so eat protein when you're not looking for emotional comfort (morning, lunchtime).

While cream horns sound yummy indeed, I am eating low fat poporn which satisfies my urge to munch and crunch and I get that serotonin boost which makes me happy and feel satisfied. Maybe they'll come out with a low fat, low protein cream horn one of these days...

Nina Frusztajer Marquis, MD
co-author, The Serotonin Power Diet
http://www.serotoninpowerdiet.com
Fight Antidepressant Weight Gain and Emotional Overeating

NinaMarquisMD 5 pts

Nina Frusztajer Marquis, MD
co-author, The Serotonin Power Diet
http://www.serotoninpowerdiet.com
Fight Antidepressant Weight Gain and Emotional Overeating

sassymonkey 6 pts

I just tried to picture you in a dress and I simply cannot do it. It's just not you.

And if that is the Elaine I think it is they are insane!

Sassymonkey ( http://sassymonkey.ca/ ) and Sassymonkey Reads ( http://sassymonkeyreads.wordpress.com/ ).

Denise 12 pts moderator

Yep, I agree. And, I find it annoying that those of us who work very hard to create and maintain a healthy body image/self image are constantly tried to lure into the pit of despair that the rest of woman-kind is trapped in.

Like the commenters who always tell my friend Elaine that she is fat and should go on a diet.

Or one of my kids who insists I should wear a dress.

Or my ex mil who is sure I should wear makeup.

I could go on and on and on...

~Denise
Fast Times @ Homeschool High ( http://fasttimes.clubmom.com ) & Flamingo House Happenings ( http://www.flamingohouse.net</a )

sassymonkey 6 pts

I can't help but point out that body image issues also fall to those that are underweight. And those that are a healthy weight. And those that are a healthy weight after having been underweight. I don't think anyone is immune and especially not those that are "young, blond, white and thin". Sometimes that gets lost or glossed over in discussions.

Sassymonkey ( http://sassymonkey.ca/ ) and Sassymonkey Reads ( http://sassymonkeyreads.wordpress.com/ ).

Denise 12 pts moderator

Obviously, since I ate three today.

~Denise
Fast Times @ Homeschool High ( http://fasttimes.clubmom.com ) & Flamingo House Happenings ( http://www.flamingohouse.net</a )

Catherine Morgan 5 pts

They look yummy! Probably better than cream puffs.

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
also at Women 4 Hope ( http://women4hope.wordpress.com/ ) and CatherineBlogs.com ( http://www.catherineblogs.com/ )

Denise 12 pts moderator

I knew that.

~Denise
Fast Times @ Homeschool High ( http://fasttimes.clubmom.com ) & Flamingo House Happenings ( http://www.flamingohouse.net</a )

Denise 12 pts moderator

what questions do you have, Ms Monkey? Something "underweight" related maybe?

~Denise
Fast Times @ Homeschool High ( http://fasttimes.clubmom.com ) & Flamingo House Happenings ( http://www.flamingohouse.net</a )

Denise 12 pts moderator

the text is linked, click it and see. ;-)

~Denise
Fast Times @ Homeschool High ( http://fasttimes.clubmom.com ) & Flamingo House Happenings ( http://www.flamingohouse.net</a )

Catherine Morgan 5 pts

I'm sorry, I just have to ask...What is a cream horn? Is it like a cream puff?

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
also at Women 4 Hope ( http://women4hope.wordpress.com/ ) and CatherineBlogs.com ( http://www.catherineblogs.com/ )

Amanda 5 pts

Interesting points raised, all of them.

Let me pose one of my own: did you know that cream horns are good for your mental health once in a while?

So is Ben and Jerry's. :)

Amanda Shaffer, Blogher Health and Wellness Contributing Editor ( http://www.blogher.com )

The Adventures of Cat Lady. ( http://the-cat-lady.com )

sassymonkey 6 pts

I'm sorry to be missing this one. Hopefully I'll be able to catch it in Second Life (assuming I get my computer issues worked out...sigh, stupid laptop, lol).

Sassymonkey ( http://sassymonkey.ca/ ) and Sassymonkey Reads ( http://sassymonkeyreads.wordpress.com/ ).