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Fifteen minutes with Anderson Cooper, and your questions

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My http://www.blogher.com/node/22465 ">fifteen minutes with Cooper left me buzzing. I wanted to go live in Anderson-world. It’s rare you’re in the presence of someone really imbued with the purpose of their work, but that’s how I felt after our talk. It made me want to work harder. Cooper is someone admits he works “all the time,” but what I emerged with from our brief interview was a sense of the importance of passion and social justice. (Ed note: the funny thing about CNN is that in the midst of its obsession with Paris Hilton and horses that fall off trails, and bland morning anchors, it maintains room for some iconoclasts, like Cooper and Lou Dobbs). And it’s ironic, because my primary experience of watching presidential candidates discourse has been one of numbness, process, talking points. So when Cooper told me the purpose of this new debate format is to “infuse questions with a new spirit and energy,” I believed him. I want to thank BlogHer readers for providing such good questions and helping to create a natural discussion.

I’ve summed up our discussions below, using quotes sparingly because I did not have a recorder and I don’t want to misquote. If I misconstrue, I apologize. In our brief discussions, three themes emerged:

[img_assist|fid=4377|thumb=1|alt=CNN/YouTube|caption=CNN/YouTube Debate logo]The Importance of “Bottom Up” Media

Anderson’s take on the YouTube debate is that it’s an unknown quantity for both the network and the candidates. Unlike most presidential debates or forums, in which a moderator or panel of journalists pose questions to the candidates, on Monday night YouTube is the panel, and voter generated content provides question materials. (To watch some or submit your own, click here). CNN’s Washington Bureau Chief David Bohrman said on air yesterday that there might be some tougher questions that challenge the candidates- implying other debates didn’t? I asked Anderson if that was true.

He said the thing that he thinks will be challenging is that not only are these questions a traditional moderator might not ask, but that the questions twist and turn. “You…think it’s going one way, then it turns around.” He noted candidates will have to listen to the whole stream, and not spout poll-tested talking points (well, at least not the whole time). He said he was struck by the quality of the questions and the diversity of those posing them (although early reports showed very few women submitted questions, he said he noted a strong diversity…I’m not buying it, but ok).

I then asked, is one of the goals of this debate to take candidates out of their comfort zone? Cooper said the major goal- - is to show a different side of candidates, and yes, to take people out of comfort zone. He said he thought the campaigns seemed “nervous…we’re all little nervous.” The debate should infused with “the spirit and energy of questions, the spirit of the voters’ questions should “infuse and inform entire debate.” Thankfully, Anderson admitted he didn’t know what this “infusion” actually meant, but I think I do.

I hope the debate echoes at least part of what we see online everyday, at BlogHer and on other sites: true discussions, questions off-book, questions that are the product of real curiosity.

Feely snarky, I asked Anderson if he wanted a seminal, “Boxers vs. briefs” pull quote to come from the CNN/YouTube debate Monday night.

He bristled and said, no, “it’s more serious than that…it’s a real bottom up process…” CNN is not “cherry picking” the questions they think are most appropriate. They’re going to pool the best ones and see what happens. He hopes it’s more of a “conversation.” And that he will facilitate dialogue by ensuring when a candidate responds, you can redirect the question to another.

I hope this isn’t the end of the feedback loop. If CNN wants to create a real conversation, they need to offer viewers a place to retort. Anderson did mention that many of the campaigns are preparing videos- but I think the YouTube channel devoted to discussion of the debate—CitizenTube—should have a stronger role and a more publicized “retorting” ability for voters.

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Responsibility

The best thing about talking to Cooper was his complete sense of responsibility and respect for both his interview subjects and his audience. I asked him my favorite question, which was from our NGO and Social Change editor Britt Bravo:

She asked: how does he beat burn out and compassion fatigue?

He took a minute to think. He said burnout

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Jo Ann 5 pts

Morra, I was very excited to see that you used my question during your Fifteen minutes with Anderson! I thought his responses to all of your questions were thoughtful and intelligent.

I have my doubts about this format, because it has the potential to be seen merely as a gimmick; however, Anderson is clearly excited about it. I just wonder if they realize that a large part of the voter population, like senior citizens and the poor, will be left out of the debate because of their circumstances and those are the people that will suffer or benefit the most from political decisions.

On the positive side, maybe the fact that many of the questions are of a very personal nature will force the candidates to focus on the questions and not digress onto something else. I hope Anderson will try to keep the candidates on point.

I only hope that the candidates will be able to respond to the questions asked tonight as well as Anderson did to yours.

Thanks again!

Morra Aarons Mele 5 pts

American voters. And Lisa, thank you for sharing this
"But we do need better debates because the folks who show up at the polls do watch, could watch them in greater numbers and heaven knows we all want to eyeball the people applying to be commander in chief.."

I literally could not watch the previous debates all the way through, and I am a political junkie. Too many candidates, too many talking points.

I hope Monday night, as you say, is the start of something new. And I'm glad it's Cooper doing the debate, because I think he might keep it real-ish.

I'll try my best to buck the spin.

Pam 5 pts

stiff-arm the spinmeisters and follow your voter's heart.

Hear hear!

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Lisa Stone 6 pts

I agree Grace A. And while I do not rejoice to hear that the candidates are nervous, as you relate above, Morra, I am very eager to do anything possible to emancipate us voters from the atrocious spin built into the campaign mojo of candidates. Two years ago I wrote a piece for Jay Rosen's Pressthink that I think bears mentioning here. An excerpt:

Kind of a Drag: A Short History of Spin Alley and the Press ( http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi... )

By Lisa Stone

“You go to spin alley, the place called spin alley. Now, don’t you think that, for people watching at home, that’s kind of a drag, that you’re literally walking to a place called deception lane?”

— Comedian Jon Stewart on CNN’s Crossfire with hosts Tucker Carlson and Paul Begala, Oct. 15, 2004.

When Jon Stewart “busted” Spin Alley in his famous confrontation with the Crossfire people (the most downloaded video clip ever, at the time) he was hitting on a practice that had grown more and more disreputable. As a designated spot for the practice of spin, the Alley only fell from legitimacy when an alternative practice rose up and called out to conscience of the press. It was one lesson of Campaign 2004: Forget about spinning the outcome, just fact check the debates.

Now that we know this (and a pretty obvious lesson it is) we can look back at the life and times of Spin Alley, one of the strangest places ever founded in American politics— not least because it required the cooperation of journalists who would appear to be the intended victims of spin. This is a story with some twists in it...

The piece is indulgently long, but here's my net-net: I strongly support Adam Nagourney/NYT for his refusal in 2004 to attend or cover the traditional debates. But we do need better debates because the folks who show up at the polls do watch, could watch them in greater numbers and heaven knows we all want to eyeball the people applying to be commander in chief..

So this could be the start of something great, but only if we can help keep it real. When you go to Carolina, Morra, stiff-arm the spinmeisters and follow your voter's heart.

Lisa Stone
BlogHer Co-founder ( http://www.blogher.com/member/lisa-stone )
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Grace A 5 pts

Morra that was a great interview. I've met Anderson a couple of times and each time I see a different side of him. This time however, I've seen the side of him I like best the reporter, journalist and news anchor. He is truly smart, intelligent and really gets into something he believes in. I can't wait for the debate Monday and just hope that there are no glitches.

The candidates should beware the American people are more savvy than than they realize.

Morra Aarons Mele 5 pts

From covering the PBS debate? :)

I agree: I think this could be the start of something.

lauriewrites 5 pts

I can't wait to watch, based on your insights and the new format. I so hope it is more on the genuine side and feel that it can't help but be with Cooper's involvement.

I agree with you especially on this:

Unlike many skeptics online, I’m looking forward to this debate. I think it signals a shift, a maturing of both voter generated content, and acknowledgement that online political participation is simply an extension of the ancient tradition of the forum, the commons, and the town hall meeting.

Laurie
LaurieWrites ( http://lauriewrites.typepad.com )

Catherine Morgan 5 pts

Hi Morra -- Great interview. I have a lot of respect for Anderson Cooper, especially after all he did after Katrina. He is definitely one of only a handful of journalist that are "hands-on", and seem to actually "care" about what they are reporting on.

I just hope it doesn't die, and then we're back to talking point politics as usual...

I agree with you. I hope this new way of getting the public involved in the process of debates is a "hit" and not a "mis".

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
also at Women 4 Hope ( http://women4hope.wordpress.com/ ) and Informed Voters ( http://informedvoters.wordpress.com/ )

Marilyn 5 pts

I'll be watching Monday night. At the very least, it will be interesting.

Morra Aarons Mele 5 pts

CNN has caught a lot of flack about the potential "staginess" of this debate...but I must admit, after a brief discussion with Hillary Clinton about the debate, and yesterday's talk with Cooper, I think everyone in the politics/news/presidential candidates business is actually a little nervous about this thing. Which is good. I just hope it doesn't die, and then we're back to talking point politics as usual...

Lisa Stone 6 pts

Morra, this is a great idea:

I hope this isn’t the end of the feedback loop. If CNN wants to create a real conversation, they need to offer viewers a place to retort. Anderson did mention that many of the campaigns are preparing videos- but I think the YouTube channel devoted to discussion of the debate—CitizenTube—should have a stronger role and a more publicized “retorting” ability for voters.

I look forward to your take on how Monday goes and whether you feel CNN and Cooper invigorate the debate or not...
Lisa Stone
BlogHer Co-founder ( http://www.blogher.com/member/lisa-stone )
Surfette ( http://surfette.typepad.com )