Discrimination or Gender Preference?
by Denise

Let me start my saying that I don't really understand this topic at all. I grew up as a military brat and you got whichever doctor you got. I married a military dude and spent 20 adult years with military healthcare and again, you got whichever doctor you got and were damn glad when you actually GOT to see a DOCTOR.

I've listened to a lot of people, mostly women, talk about their preference for female doctors - the whole ob/gyn factor and all that. Huh? Whatever. I don't get it. But a lot of you do.

Happy Feminist understands:

In most areas of life, I strive to be scrupulously gender-blind. But I do discriminate in one area. When my annual physical rolls around, I always request a woman doctor. This seems like common sense to me. Why should I tolerate a strange man poking around in my most intimate private areas when there are plenty of qualified women professionals with whom I would be more comfortable?

Of course Twisty Faster has thoughts about this situation, too...

I reveal no secrets when I say that the idea of the male ob/gyn sorely inflames the revulsion center in my obstreperal lobe.

Well guess what, apparently sometimes men have gender preferences when it comes to docs poking in areas where the sun only shines when you're at a nude beach! UroStream had this fun exchange with a patient and oh boy does it sound fun!

I knock and enter the examining room, and extending my hand to my new patient, I greet him :
"Good morning!"
The patient takes one look at me, and standing up to exit the room, he says:
"I think we're done here".
"I'm sorry, is there a problem?"
"Yes, I didn't realize you were a woman".
End of story, the patient leaves my office....

OK so, I still don't get it. Do you? Do you have a gender preference? Do you consider such a preference to be sexist? (Edited to add: Chantel was unable to comment on this entry so she's created a forum link for more discussion. Please feel free to join us there if you like! Gender Preferences for OB/GYN Doctors)

~~Denise
Daily Dose of Denise

Comments

 

Drs from Mars/Venus

I do understand - some people just have different embarassment-boundaries.

At one point I did find that a female OB/GYN was more receptive to hearing and investigating my symptoms than a male OB/GYN. The male Dr said that I should come back in 6 months and not worry. I went to a female Dr immediately. Within two weeks I was having a complete hysterectomy for a particularly lethal kind of cancer, and followup radiation at Sloan-Kettering in NYC. Was this because of a different style of listening between men and women? Was it that a woman would see some symptoms as more urgently needing attention than a man? I don't know for sure, but I DO know that changing Drs. saved my life.

It has also been my experience that a female OB/GYN will use a pre-warmed speculum more than a male DR will. Sometimes it's the little things :-)

Mata H

blogging tirelessly at Time's Fool

 

Wow Mata H

That's a pretty drastic difference in treatment. Wonder if it was gender or if it was simply bad doc vs good doc, ya know?

Now about that pre-warmed speculum - another thing I didn't have much experience with in military healthcare.

~Denise

 

As my aunt would say

My dear wonderful aunt who always delights with her colorful southern expressions explained her demand for a female gyno this way. "You wouldn't want a mechanic who had never driven a car, would you?"

I do love her so.



Debi Jones
Contributing Editor, Blogging and Social Media
Feed your mobile jones

 

Driven a car?

That's an interesting question. Is it possible to become an expert at something yet not ever experienced it?

In my experience, it is definitely possible. But your Aunt makes a valid point just the same.

~Denise

 

Different times, different docs

I first went to the gyno when I was like 16, and my mom took me to her doc. I didn't like him, and I guess I found the whole thing mildly uncomfortable, so for a long time after that, while I was younger, I waited FOREVER to schedule appointments with a woman doc.

Then recently, the only doc would give me an IUD was a man. You know what, he's the best gyno I've ever had. I feel totally comfortable and I really like him. So ultimately, I guess it doesn't matter, but I would guess that for that first visit at a younger age, maybe a woman helps it all be a little less scary.

 

My daughters....

I asked both of my daughters whether they would prefer women or men or had no preference before their first exams. I'd heard so many women complain about male OBs that I thought I would be the good mom and offer to take them to a civilian doctor of their gender preference.

My oldest said she didn't care. My youngest said she preferred a male doctor (something I never could figure out and she's yet to properly explain to me).

Good for you for finding a doc to give you the IUD. I know it is not always easy. Which stinks, ya know?

~Denise

PS. The 12 year old boy recently had a check up and asked to see a male doctor - his ped is female. His request was honored.

 

Reverse Preference

I spent a long time using Planned Parenthood as my sole means of medical care, before I had any health insurance. Most of the doctors there were women. I imagine that my experiences there had more to do with people working under stressful and underfunded conditions, but I almost always had unhelpful, uninterested female doctors.

In my experience, the female doctors were more likely to blow off my experience. The female doctors were universally unwilling to believe that my experience could be significantly different than theirs. (Apparently, many women don't have pain receptors in their cervix. I do.)

When I finally got health insurance through work, I was assigned a General Practitioner who also did Women's Health (including PAPs and such), and who also happened to be a man. He was kind, thoughtful, always willing to listen to my petty questions and take them seriously. He has no choice but to take my word for my experiences. He can't think to himself, "well, yes, I had really bad cramps once, but it only lasted a day, I bet she'll be fine." He has to assume that when I say something is unbearable, that means something needs to be done about it.

So my guess is that it has more to do with finding a good doctor than with gender. Or at least, that's what my experience leads me to believe.

DeAnna
Milking It

 

DeAnna...

I have occasionally heard women say this about female doctors, so you aren't alone. It just seems to be vocalized less often in my world.

I would make a horrible OB/GYN - as much as I appreciate and respect women, I don't really understand a lot of the menstrual pain, uncomfortable pap etc... issues that are real for so many women. I wonder about women, (like me?), who enter the OB/GYN field and find themselves struggling to be compassionate - I wonder if they would be more compassionate in another medical speciality?

~Denise

 

*puts on groucho glasses and

*puts on groucho glasses and slinks in*

OK, my post isn't on OB/GYN experiences and preferences...

it's on general preference.

When I first sought out a therapist, and I was exceedingly careful in this, one of the criteria was a preference for women. And at the same time, there was also a need for a doctor and or endocrinologist to handle things physical and hormonal. Again my preference was for a woman.

Why? Because of my background, my experiences, my general understanding. All of this is rather generic, there are great men doctors, not so great women doctors, but in general... women are more understanding and receptive to what I would be discussing, digging into, dealing with. And for this reason, I am far more comfortable interacting with women than men.

For me, at that stage, even at this stage, this is still... essential.

Crossing The Great Divide

 

ok nelle....

Let's take this a step further, (or ignore me if you like) - let's talk SRS. Lots of male SRS docs out there, not so many female. Is this going to be a problem for you?

I thought I had a blog entry about searching for a therapist who was male due to sexual abuse by a female that I was going to include in this post but I somehow lost it and after searching for about a half hour, I gave up. Therapy and gender preference is another area where I've heard an awful lot of stories. (My really awesome therapist all that time ago was male, which may be another reason why I don't have gender preferences when it comes to docs.)

~Denise

 

What it comes down to who is

What it comes down to who is the patient, why are they there, and what helps them to find the path to what they need?

My srs doctor is male (Dr. Bouchard) but he has an established track record of interacting with this community, of being supportive... and I don't have to share my innermost thoughts with him, he just needs to get this done when the time comes.

Of course there are women out there who abuse women, who are gruff, etc. I am certain my doctor would rub some the wrong way... ok, for those who would care to know, picture this...

she looks a great deal like Estelle Getty of Golden Girls, she talks like her, and has the same damn attitude. She will tell you exactly what she thinks, and she often uses rather colourful language in the process...

but as with someone else I know, she tells you what you need to hear, not necessarily what you want to hear. And she is a damn good endo... who knows my therapist, so that is bonus points.

Choose a therapist wisely. Some can do great harm. We both know someone who had a therapist who spent the time talking about herself, not letting her patient share.

Still, for me, women will dig deeper, will find ways to get you to dig out what is inside of you, get you to share. Of course trained therapists, good ones, will do this... but most guys will not, in fact they run like the wind the other way from any attempt at this.

Crossing The Great Divide

 

Yes it's discrimination.

But, in my opinion, it's one area of my life where I will reserve the right to discriminate all I want. As an employer, I would hire the best qualified candidate whether they're gay, black, female, male, Asian, whatever. But a doctor is someone with whom you have a relationship that is not intimate, per se, but with whom you must have intimate discussions and show them intimate parts of your body. It's MY nether regions so I, and I alone, get to decide who sees them.

Personally I have a male doctor, but I wouldnt' feel the slightest bit of guilt if I decided tomorrow that I wanted a female doctor instead. Basically, although it could be considered discriminatory to refuse to be seen by doctors of a particular gender, but I place more importance on my level of comfort with my doctor.