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"If you don't use TV as a babysitter, you don't have kids, or you are lying." -- Deborah Linebarger

Lauren Young from Business Week's Working Parents blog recently wrote a post titled Kids & TV: The Boob Tube Is Okay! in which she interviews Deborah Linebarger, an assistant professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School of Communications in Philadelphia, and "one of a handful of researchers who track kids and their TV viewing habits."

Excerpts from the interview can be found in Lauren's post. Lauren sums up her feelings after the interview by writing:

"I felt like a better mom after our conversation. We need to stop parents from thinking that they are bad parents and they are damaging their child by letting them watch TV, Linebarger says. It's okay to use TV like other tools to meet a specific need."

Lauren's interview with Linebarger was in response to a recent Kaiser Family Foundation study The Media Family: Electronic Media in the Lives of Infants, Toddlers, Preschoolers and Their Parents. Nobody from Nobody Here takes offense at an AP article written based on the study.

"So what you're saying is, before TV, these dinner-making supermommies were having high quality teaching-learning moments with their toddlers while cooking? They were teaching them to play the lute or recite "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight" without ever once burning the risotto? The question here isn't whether there are times when you must attend to something other than your child(ren), because obviously there are. The question is how you choose to fill those times, particularly when your child is too young to read on their own or self-entertain. So how is having them sitting in a playpen staring at the wall or poking around the corner eating lint more developmentally advantageous than Elmo?"

Mothers certainly don't need to feel more guilt about yet one more parenting issue, and I think most of us would agree that watching TV is much like eating cookies; it's fine in moderation. As explained on the Toddler Blog:

"Toddlers don't need alot of TV. Some parents allow their children to watch TV and that is perfectly fine and normal. However, you should limit the amount of TV time that your toddler watches. You should also monitor the types of TV shows that your toddler watches."

Linebarger gives some indication as to which shows are better for younger viewers:

"Certain studies have shown that kids six to 30 months who watch "Teletubbies" have lower vocabulary scores and expressive language. But shows with simple story lines that look like actual story books, such as "Arthur" or "Clifford," are associated with higher vocabulary and better use of language."

Unfortunately, the issues of how much TV is too much TV and whether or not you can trust programming "for kids" don't disapear when your child gets older, as Jenn Satterwhite reminded us in her BlogHer post "N" Stands for Never and Not on My Watch. Liz Ditz from I Speak of Dreams recaps the issue behind Jenn's post and explains what actions moms can take to fight age-innapropriate TV programming in her post Age Compression, Again and Again: Promoting Tween Sexuality.

On a lighter note, Erin-erin-bo-berin from Family Circus is just happy that her youngest daughter, two-year old Rosie, didn't ruin the screen of their 65" rear-projection television when she sprayed it with Johnson's Detangler.

What about you? Do you (or did you) employ the electronic babysitter? What are your thoughts about kids and TV?

[Hat tip to Anne 2.0 for the link to the Working Parents post. Image credit: Animation World Network.]

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jLovesCoffee 5 pts

I don't remember being critical of other folks' choices regarding television. I think what I said originally was that it seemed rather in vogue these days to dismiss reserach out of hand without looking at it or thinking about it critically, and basing such dismissals on what was convenient. I still think that's true for most people; we are beginning to make "gut instinct" a cultural value in America at the expense of science (across the board, not just about this issue). I also mentioned that despite what everyone was writing in about hearing criticism and feeling guilty about TV, I seem to be the lone person I know or know of (online and off) that isn't letting their kids watch TV. And no one sounds guilty - this was more along the lines of a validation forum.

Which is fine. Validation is a necessary part of parenting. I'm just playing a little devil's advocate, particularly since no one else was.

manicmom 5 pts

It also doesn't stop people from being critical of other people and the decisions they have made in life. I don't dismiss ALL of the research, but I do alot of it. Mostly because ADD and ADHD are highly overdiagnosed and overmedicated. 13 hours of TV a day? Sure bad. 1/2 to hour a day while a parent does something else? Whatever.

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jLovesCoffee 5 pts

You obviously have a different situation than I do, and have made the best possible decision for your kid(s) based on all the factors in your situation.

This doesn't change the fact that too many people obviously use the TV as a crutch, and do so less out of true need than convenience. Nor does it change what more and more studies are showing to be true: that more television for kids (particularly the under 2s) is bad. If you've taken a look at the data, assessed the risk in light of other mitigating circumstances, and decided that your toddlers benefit more from some Elmo time because it makes you sane, great. Don't feel guilty about it, that's your choice. That doesn't make it a great decision for everyone else, nor does it mean that each parent shouldn't go through their own decision making process.

jLovesCoffee 5 pts

Actually, no one ever said the earth was flat. This is one of the biggest myths in the history of science. (My husband is a history professor and has a PhD in the history of science, and this one gets his goad up every time. It seems I've received the goad-getting-up from him. Alas.) And, yes, scientists prior to the seventeenth century did hold with some opinions that we now know to be untrue. This does not mean that all science across all time, from the middle ages to modern day is bunk.

This is exactly the sort of rhetoric within the culture of America that allows things like creationists to make arguments against teaching evolution in schools (a phenomenon that is particular to we Americans). Creationists will say, "Yeah, but scientists once told us the earth was one hundred million years old. Now they say six billion. See how those pesky scientists constantly change the story and are totally unreliable? That's why we can't trust what they say."

Doctors claimed smoking was healthy based on the evidence they had. When further studies were done, they immediately changed their recommendations based on the data at hand. That's how science works. It takes what it knows about something, forms a hypothesis, tests it, revises the hypothesis, tests that, and so on.

It is one thing to approach things critically - what types of studies have been done? on how many subjects, and across what ranges? have the results and conclusions been repeated/-able? how strong is the correlation of ADD (or whatever) and TV, and what are the other factors in the correlary data? - and quite another to dismiss all science and approach what IS known and HAS been found in a variety of studies with anecdotal, unproven, non-scientific conclusions based on little but "gut feel" and what would be more convenient.

sweetney 5 pts

please also note (from the article):

Q. How likely is the American Academy of Pediatrics to reverse its view that kids under two shouldn't watch TV?
A. The AAP recommendation was made in 1997 before there were any studies about kids two and under. The statement needs to be reevaluated, but with only a handful of studies out there, it won't happen any time soon.

which suggests perhaps the negative impact of TV was overstated by the AAP for children under 2.

And professionals also once said the earth was flat and that the sun orbited the earth. more recently, to dovetail into what you've said, so-called experts and scientists and doctors, prior to the 60s, also claimed smoking was not only not harmful but HEALTHY. so yeah, i take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt.

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DanaFiles 5 pts

I can't get my 20 month old to watch TV for more than 5 minutes unless it's "The Backyardigans" and they are only on TV on Saturdays at our house (while I'm at work and Dawson is at Grandma's).

The child just doesn't care for it. I try to clean the house, and Clifford will be on and he just follows me from room to room making a mess as I try to tidy up. He's just an active boy I guess.

Maybe he's just not old enough to understand what's happening in that noisy, flashy box.

jLovesCoffee 5 pts

The American Pediatrics Association recommends no television for children under 2. I believe the AAP recommends no television for children under 3 (based on what a good friend who himself is developmental psychologist told me, though I couldn't find the reference). The studies that have been done - and I admit, they are not yet comprehensive, though that's not far away now - have been very consistent in the conclusion that (this is obviously a broad sum up) more tv is worse for kids, particularly at the youngest ages (under 2 or 3, depending on the study).

I'm not saying that children should forever be barred from all media. I don't think that's realistic, particularly once they get to preschool/kindergarten. The article and most studies are clear to distinguish between the over 2 and the under 2 television watchers. I think that's an important distinction.

I noted the article said, 'Professionals agree that TV is bad, but surveys show parents use it anyway.' The arguement 'since everyone is doing it, it must be okay' is not terribly compelling. It did not, say, work out very well for people who smoked after the studies in the 60s clearly showed that cigaretts led to lung cancer.

FlatSam 5 pts

We watched the movie and as we were walking out of the theater said "Well, he's not going to see that anytime soon." I use the same rule of thumb for video games. Only games rated E and I have to check them out first. I think the number 13 is going to be a magic number in our house....

Samantha
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sweetney 5 pts

you might want to check out the article this post was largely based on here ( http://www.businessweek.com/careers/workingparents... ).

For those who are over two, there is a huge amount of research about the positive benefits of educational media, including predicting school readiness, building vocabulary, and other kinds of developmental skills. And those benefits extend into high school. Kids who watched "Sesame Street" as a preschooler have higher grade point averages when they get to high school.

and in the same way that you suggest these articles are perhaps slanted or biased in their perspective, i'd recommend not believing everything you read simply because it is presented as "scientific" -- science has its own biases and slants, and researchers are very often wrong or misguided or limited by the scope of their studies and thus present misleading results, as the article above suggests.

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manicmom 5 pts

I think it's great that your kids don't watch TV, but I refuse to feel guilty for mine watching a 1/2 a day while I wash dishes or do laundry or work. I work at home, I'm single bla. I'm not dismissing evidence, but I am using a tool I have to be able to do something other than look at my kid all day. I wager you have help when your spouse comes homes. Which is great. Some of us don't have that. So don't think we are lazy because we want to clean house or shower because it's convienent.

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Summerwolf 5 pts

Well our daughter hasn't even seen some of the Disney movies! We only recently lifted the ban on things that showed minor violence, like Kim Possible (dumb but...), and that was mainly because Briar would still play violent games and I found it disturbing how often she was the "bad guy"!! O_O I figured that if she had the desire to play this sort of game anyway I wanted her to have the desire to be the hero out to save the helpless rather than the evil, mean villain. But even at that she knows I have to watch a show or two (or the movie) before I make a decision about whether it's appropriate for her to watch. For example she's never seen Mulan (one of my favourite Disney movies, truth be known) because I'm not ready to explain the concept of war to her (yes, she's leading a sheltered life) and I make a habit of ALWAYS explaining things to her so... that one will have to wait.

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jLovesCoffee 5 pts

There seems to be a rash of "tv is okay! because I need it to be!" articles, blogs, sentiments, etc. out there of late. I haven't seen ANY folks screaming or even whispering about the ills of television (nor do I know any parents who don't use television for their kids - not one via the internet, not one in real life).

That said, what research that's been done isn't mostly clear, it is crystal clear: the more television exposure at earlier ages, the worse off kids are - educationally, socially, gross motor developmentally, across the board.

Arguments like, "Well, I watched TV as a kid so it must be okay" drive me crazy. My mother smoked when she was pregnant with me - BECAUSE HER DOCTOR TOLD HER TO (to keep birth weights low). And, yes, I'm okay. So are lots of others whose mothers smoked during pregnancy. This does not mean that smoking during pregnancy is okay. These sorts of arguments - anecdotal, based on selective, subjective experience - are not reliable, and should not given the same weight as scientific data.

There is an anti-intellectual, anti-science culture in America (that, yes, starts at the top) that seems to think and proport that studies, data, statistics and science aren't nearly as important as gut instinct. I'll admit that science has flaws (as will most if not all scientists I've ever read or known), but it seems foolish to dismiss a ream of studies on a particular subject because their conclusions are inconvenient.

For the record, I am a stay at home mother of twin eighteen month old girls that do not watch television.

manicmom 5 pts

I had a judgemental friend tell me how bad TV was, bla bla bla. Then she came over to help me with some stuff and realized if I didn't put the baby in front of the TV at some point, I wouldn't shower.

I do think when he gets older I will view the PG-13 movies and then decide. Becasuse some of then scare me.

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Lisa Stone 5 pts

Sam, that was my turning point movie! THAT one - with the last battle scene that truly grossed me out. We're all scifi geeks and I had been planning to let the then-eight-year-old see it. But then I read reviews that somberly invoked the D-word ("dark"), so I decided to check 'er out before the boys did. Ahem. Nevah evah gonna happen, I lectured them later.

Well, until they're 13 that is. Then I can hide behind them...

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FlatSam 5 pts

I think I have one of the only seven year olds that hasn't seen Revenge of the Sith. We have the same "viewed by a parent" rule in our house. On the upside at least my husband and I are getting to the movies more often.....

Samantha
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Lisa Stone 5 pts

...to teach someone raised in a very judgemental television-free household the value of the Boob Tube. I was allowed to watch one hour of television a week from the time I was small until I went to college. Then they flipped the switch and pretty soon my kid brother and sister were gyrating around the house to "LIke a Virgin." But I never got the habit. Until I became a parent myself: It took me nine months from the time my marriage ended until I had saved enough money to buy a television for my son's second birthday. He got Elmo. I got clean hair. Video therapy for the whole family. Never looked back. My nemesis today isn't TV -- it's PG-13 movies. Apparently I have one of the only ten-year-olds alive who isn't automatically allowed to see them. . . until I see them first. And it's not just that Mom wants alone time with Wolverine--these movies are explicit in more ways than one. Anyone else in this boat?

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Kelly F. 5 pts

That slack-jawed look tells me I can squeeze in 30-60 minutes of likely uninterrupted writing, or cleaning, or a phone call I've been putting off for a week.

If only I could get Lila to watch something other than Little Bear. Duck scares me.

Just like with ice cream, cupcakes, and beer...moderation. Not always easy to do when nothing else will distract them enough to give you a moment's peace, but it's good to be aware of the effects. If my teen has more than an hour he's impossible to live with for the next six hours.

Kelly
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lizditz 5 pts

I wrote a blogpost about the heinousness of the 24-hour babychannel, BabyFirstTV ( http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2006/... ) and got this comment this morning.

Does anyone have an opinion on BabyFirstTV that you would like to see quoted in the Dallas Morning News? I am writing a story on the new 24-hour baby-oriented channel and would like to hear why or why not you would subscribe to it. Contact Nancy Churnin at nchurnin@dallasnews.com by Friday at the latest. Thanks much, Nancy Churnin Dalals Morning News

Since I am out of the baby business I thought I'd bring it up here.
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Summerwolf 5 pts

Thanks, I forgot to mention the news. The news is never on when my kids are around. There is more violence on the news than most of the tv shows!! There are adult concepts there that I don't want my already neurotic daughter to hear.

Shannon

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Trisha 5 pts

I don't have any kids, yet. But I don't see what the big deal is with letting them watch it a little now and then, especially something educational. The thought of them watching commercials does bother me though - they could be a very bad influence!

I watched a lot when I was young - probably not as a toddler though - and I don't think it hurt me any. Although I wouldn't want a kid to watch quite as much as I did.

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FlatSam 5 pts

We aren't super strict on the amount of t.v. the kids watch. Though we are about what they watch. So quality vs quantity. I think it's a good thing that neither of my kids really knows how to work the remote. I also thought it was sweet when my son got misty eyed while watching the Farewell to Katie on the Today Show. They are articulate, getting good grades and not torturing small animals. I think we're good for now.

Samantha
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Karen Rani 5 pts

I'm not ashamed to say that either. Troll Baby either watches it or plays while it drones on in the background. I was raised the same way, and look how I turned out. (twitch twitch!)

I honestly don't have a problem with t.v. and set no limits - my kids play outside more than most, or they elect to play on the carpet, making up games or building with Legos, much more than they actually watch t.v. I suppose I should turn it off to save energy, but we might actually have to talk to each other. What a concept.
Karen

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Sarah 5 pts

My MIL swears that my SIL learned her alphabet by watching "Sesame Street".

I'm a big fan of shows that make my kids want to sing and dance. We have fun watching shows together. We also watch sporting events as a family.

That being said, I get nervous when they watch the news. The news is scary.

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Summerwolf 5 pts

Well, here's my 2 cents worth. My baby (17mos) generally watches his two favourite shows in the morning while I'm getting food for he and I and making dinner (hooray for crock-pots!) and such. We generally don't take the tv off of Disney Channel (which doesn't have commercials) or Animal Planet. He thoroughly enjoys Higglytown Heroes and Little Einsteins. Later when I'm helping his older sister (8 years old) after school with something, or just when I'm desperately in need of time without him "helping" me (like when I'm loading or unloading the dishwasher!! O_O) he'll often get to watch one of his Signing Time videos ( http://www.signingtime.com/ ) which he absolutely adores. He has been highly attracted to the "boob tube" pretty much since birth. We couldn't get over this little baby craning his neck to see the tv!

His sister, on the other hand, never even looked at the thing until she was about two. ...I can't begin to express how tough that was!! I was BEGGING the kid to become a mindless automaton and stare at the tv so I could do ANYTHING. She generally will watch one thing and then goes off to do her own thing, but even she can fall into the occasional zombie-like state on the couch.

So far *knocks on wood* the baby does not object when I arbitrarily turn off the tv, and I'm hoping that it won't become an issue in the future but this is all new territory for us so we'll just have to see.

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MirfromWCS 5 pts

I agree; I've been known to turn on the tube just to get them to sit still for a few minutes....

TV's like anything else. The key is moderation. Often when I watch "Honey We're Killing the Kids" I hear the nutritionist saying that the kids watch an average of 40 hours of TV a week or somesuch. That certainly makes me feel like a good mom, as I try to figure out how that's even POSSIBLE. ;)

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sweetney 5 pts

this is such a loaded topic -- and so many people are
sensitive and/or black-and-white about their position on this issue i hesitate to comment... BUT I WILL.

as a child, i watched a huge amount of tv. it wasn't all edumacational, or even probably "child-friendly" per se. i lived, my brain works fine, and i have a decent attention span. more than anything, i have a healthy appreciation of pop culture as a result, which i'm able to look at critically yet still enjoy. i've taught college courses in american culture, and have tried to instill this thinking-person's perspective in my students, and will do the same when my daughter is old enough to grasp the relevant concepts.

as for my daughter (3.5 years old), i don't regulate her television consumption with an iron fist. she probably watches between 1-3 hours of tv a day, sometimes less, sometimes more. i make sure that it is thoughtful, smart, funny, kid-friendly programming, and do my best to edit out commercials (thanks, tivo!). beyond that, i'm pretty easy.

i think parents are WAY too hard on themselves (and by extention their kids) about many issues, this being one of them. i'm raising my daughter to be a smart, thoughtful individual, and if i'm doing my job -- which i think i am -- no amount of tv is going to make her into a drooling moron with the attention span of a gnat.

my 2-cents.

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Mary Tsao 5 pts

It's not so much TV shows (although some of them are more consumer-oriented than others) but the commercials in betweeen that turn kids into consumer zombies. That's just an ugly side effect of TV no matter if the individual is two or thirty two.

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Mary Tsao 5 pts

My kids wake up every day to breakfast and Sesame Street. I put on Dora or Blue's clues when I shower or make dinner or just need them to "chill" so that I can get something done.

We have TIVO so I can easily control what they watch on TV, but I definitely feel they sometimes watch too much. That's when I ditch some of my "other" stuff, turn off the TV, and involve them in a non-TV activity.

But gosh, TV is just SO.DARN.EASY. And sometimes? Sometimes that slack-jawed look of my children completely engrossed in TV is EXACTLY the look I want to see.

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Julie Marsh 5 pts

There's a lot of TV watching in this house. I don't care that much for it, but I'm outnumbered.

Rest assured we do plenty of other things. And when we do watch, it's usually to take advantage of snuggle time.

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manicmom 5 pts

While I don't think I go over bosrd on TV, my son who is 10 months old, is put in the high chair about every other day for 1/2 an hour in front of the TV so I can clean the house. I have to, other wise he undoes everything while I am doing it.

On the other hand, I'm not buying Baby Einstein, because I think it's a marketing ploy.

TV is like chocolate, moderaton is good.

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lilduckduck 5 pts

Thanks for this. So many people want to jump on you if you so much as mention that you let your child watch (a little) TV - heaven forbid you actually get to eat or scrub that koolaid out of the carpet again ;).

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lizditz 5 pts

Thanks for the link.

JumperGirl (now 17) just had zero interest in the TV until she was about 24 months. She then fell in love with WinnieThePooh. I'd let her watch it once and then TV off, no matter how much she pleaded, "I watch AGAIIIIIN"...until I decided to perform an experiment--how many times would she watch it in a row? She fell asleep during the 5th repetition. During her regular nap time. That was enough of an experiment for me--TV was pretty much off. But JumperGirl has two older brothers (ScholarMan, eight years older, and MusicMan, 10 years older) -- and so she was probably exposed to more TV just passively than I remember. Oh, and she did fall in love with Davy Crockett when she was about five.

There's zero evidence that videos such as those marketed by Baby Einstein have a positive effect upon your child's mental or emotional development -- save your money. I think BabyFirst TV ( http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2006/... ) is a terrible idea.

The more I read about the Campaign for a Commercial Free Childhood ( http://www.commercialexploitation.org/ ), the more I like what they are about.

Campaign For A Commercial-Free Childhood (formerly Stop Commercial Exploitation of Children) is a national coalition of health care professionals, educators, advocacy groups and concerned parents who counter the harmful effects of marketing to children through action, advocacy, education, research, and collaboration. We support the rights of children to grow up - and the rights of parents to raise them - without being undermined by rampant consumerism.

About four years ago we got TiVO. Now that improved our family life a lot -- JumperGirl loved The Simpsons and would be unpleasant to be around if she missed a new episode. With TiVO she could stockpile her favorite shows for the good downtimes (usually Friday nights and Sunday mornings). What we found after TiVO is that we were watching less TV -- no turning it on to catch a particular show, and remaining glued to the tube via inertia.

So I agree -- don't feel guilty if you let your pre-schooler watch maybe less than 30 minutes a day. But if your kid has a box in his or her room....maybe you should rethink that decision.

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