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Pirates, Metrosexuals and The Great Eyeliner Hunt

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For some women, wearing makeup every day is a must. And one of the most challenging of beauty tips is applying eyeliner...without smearing or looking as if you haven't slept in days...can drive a person batty!

No one knows this better than Jill of Jilbean, who was kind enough to send me an email and open my eyes to something called, "The Great Eyeliner Hunt:"

Another blogger (Blogdorf Goodman) started "the Great Mascara Hunt" where many bloggers reviewed mascara's looking for the best one. Well - now is time for "the Great Eyeliner Hunt". I will refer you to my eyeliner observation that I blogged about in the past..."Makeup Observations". Please let me know if you do blog about eyeliner...I will do my best to make sure to post wrap ups and what not....Figure the eyeliner hunt will go on till the end of July.

Hmmm...sounds like fun...and Annieytown of Blogdorf Goodman (a girl with too many coats, an addiction to fragrances and product reviews that are quite...fetching) starts the ball (or, in this case, applicator) rolling:

I will be honest...I am not much of an "eyeliner experimenter". I stick to two brands. The brands are [Mac Cosmetics] and [Nars Cosmetics].
MAC makes great eyeliners. They are soft, easy to manage, sharpen well, do not fall apart, have great staying power and live a long life. I work my MAC pencils till they are a nub.
So what is the best MAC color? My personal favorite is Buried Treasure. The perfect black with a subtle gold/green cast. You can never go wrong with it.

Okay, Jilbean...**batting eyelashes**...seeing as I've got this thing (read: obsession) about makeup...I'm taking you up on your invite and am happy to blog an observation of my own.

How about men...wearing eyeliner?

Yes, I'm talking about men who wear makeup -- believe it or not, they are out there! -- and the women who love them...not so much:

Arieanna of She Knows Best heard it, too:

Although I am not even going to suggest you follow this trend, I just heard this tidbit on the radio:

"Sales of make-up for men have gone up 800%"

Yikes!

If you are a man wearing makeup, perhaps you can clue me in?

Well, Arieanna, let's ask the men - that is to say, AskMen.com did - "Should Men Wear Makeup?" and 25 of them answered Douglas Cooney's article, where he posted two replies, from both sides of the camp:

"Today's sophisticated man should be concerned with how he looks, since it is his appearance that people first see and remains a major factor in how they gauge him... Men's cosmetics are there to help him look his best."

And the flip side says:

"Men wearing makeup is proof positive that manhood is doomed. When more and more men take on the things that are associated with the opposite sex, they gradually cease to be men. Being a man is about brains, brawn and work, not about looking cute."

Sales of men's grooming products prove otherwise, according to USA Today - a nice smelling man is good to find:

From 2000 to 2004, the number of men's personal care products rose 285%, according to Mintel's Global New Products Database. Since then, marketers have added 194 products that range from high-end to everyday brands:

•L'Oreal. Using high-tech formulations, it introduced Men's Expert, a line of eight skin care products for men as they age.

•Gillette. The Complete Skincare line, out in February, includes a cleansing bar and wash, shave gel and facial moisturizer with SPF 15.

•Suave. The Unilever brand recently rolled out hair care, body washes and styling gel under the moniker Suave for Men.

Interesting - although, men have been known to wear some form of makeup for centuries - it seems that the popularity of men's grooming products..is growing:

Though women's products still make up the majority of the $2.1 billion personal care segment, men represent a big growth opportunity. In fact, last year growth in sales of men's grooming products outpaced women's grooming products overall for the second consecutive year, trend tracker NPD Beauty says. In 2004, sales of men's skin care products grew 13% to $59 million, while women's grew just 6%.

And that's not necessarily a bad thing, according to Tanya, perhaps some men can look good...wearing makeup:

...guys in eyeliner don't usually do it for me, but c'mon, how great was Captain Jack Sparrow?

Good, bad or indifferent -- depending on which side of the makeup counter you're on, I

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jilbean3 5 pts

And the last update is about to be there!

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jilbean3 5 pts

ANother update has been done on my site:) Thanks again!

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rogue3xmen13 5 pts

I love it, for Johnny at least, but I know a lot of men who wear eyeliner, either for show or for being different, but I have to say that it is great. I know that when I wear liner my eyes look brighter, it does the same for men. I can see there eyes. The first thing I notice about a man is his eyes. If his eyes are sexy, then he is on my list.

rosenino 5 pts

Great blog post. Thanks.
Rose Nino

Liz Thompson 5 pts

Awesome...your welcome! I am sending you positive thoughts and wishing you the best of luck...and oh, but I bet you're going to look fabulous, too, Sweetie!
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manicmom 5 pts

I checked out some of those sites and I was shocked by some of the lower prices. Since I'm starting a new career life, I want to look good. That helped!!! Your a doll.

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Liz Thompson 5 pts

...and single moms, especially, deserve a treat every now and again. And I've found a few shop-online sites that offer brand name cosmetic lines (including M.A.C.) for less...because every little bit helps and you, my dear, deserve the best!

Fragrance Wholesale ( http://fragrancewholesale.com/ )

Cosmetics Superstore ( http://www.cosmeticbag.com/cgi-bin/cm.cgi?target=b... )

StrawberryNet ( http://www.strawberrynet.com/main.aspx )

Brand Name Beauty ( http://brandnamebeauty.zoovy.com/ )

Makeup Direct ( http://www.makeupdirect.net/ )

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Liz Thompson 5 pts

...and -- though I do believe The Deppman is much more "prettiful" than me -- I'll sure as heck be sitting center aisle, with AND without the kids, because I do believe that perhaps more than one screening will be necessary...for research purposes, of course!

Going back to those Dynasty days of shoulder pads ( http://www.fashion-era.com/power_dressing.htm#Fash... )...**GAG**...not so much - heads up to the re-makers of Dallas ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0429966/ ) - some fashion statements are better left...bound, gagged and kept in the closet, FOREVER!

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Liz Thompson 5 pts

I agree with you, Liz - sometimes, we really do "get what we paid for," and fortunately for me, that $15 eyeliner lasts quite a long time.

Unless my daughters sneak into my makeup basket, deciding that "goth" is the look of the day.

Although, there are plenty of inexpensive drug store makeup to go around (refer to SheKnows review here ( http://sheknows.com/about/look/2289.htm )) I really don't mind and -- just like my secret stash of Dove Chocolates)I have learned to HIDE THE GOOD STUFF!

P.S. - my eyeliner softener of choice was...over one of the gas burners on my mother's stove ;o)
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Lisa Stone 6 pts

http://utilikilt.com/...unless he prefers to sew his own. Warning, they run big...

Best,
L

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Lisa Stone 6 pts

Brilliantly put Jim:

I don't have any raw data to back up this supposition but didn't men wear powdered wigs and face makeup in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries? Perhaps they were more secure in their masculinity than today's "modern" men?

I can tell you, from reading Reporter Anna Johnson's beautifully researched "Handbags" ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761123776/qid=11... ) for this story ( http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA... ), that men also carried purses. Until the Empire period, if I recall correctly, when women's pockets were sewn tight and reticules became a fashion statement. Imagine - pockets lost to women (still can't buy a business suit with the damn things) and purses lost to men in a single fashionable season. A bad year.

Or so I thought, until a few visits abroad taught me that many men today carry purse-like objects. Even man-bags, to invoke a Seinfeldism.

If it becomes socially acceptable for some men to decide to tweak their appearances MORE, can we hope for an equal and opposite response where it becomes socially acceptable for some women to mess LESS with their natural looks?

Here's hoping...

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Denise 9 pts moderator

The "Easter Bunny" brings my son (and my daughter) eyeliner and nailpolish every year. "Santa" also tends to put both in their stockings. Generally liquid liner and odd colored nail polish for them both.

My son looks amazing in eye liner and he's so good at putting it on, he has often been asked to apply it on his sister and his g/f(s).

Let me see if I have a decent photo of the boy in eyeliner.... hmmm can't find one, darn. Can't even find a decent photo of him in a skirt. I need to fix that.

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Liz Henry 5 pts

Prince... hello. Sexxxxy!

I like the goth/glam thing, but also I think guys could just wear nice makeup once in a while if they feel like it... and it should be no big deal. Also, cute toenail polish is a plus.

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heivilinj 5 pts

I recall the camo sticks we used back in my Army days. It was so hard (and was in a metal tube which would slash the heck out of your skin if you didn't pay attention) you had to use insect repellant to soften it enough to paint your face.

(the lighters were for the shoe/boot polish!)

Jim Heivilin

heivilinj 5 pts

"Men wearing makeup is proof positive that manhood is doomed. When more and more men take on the things that are associated with the opposite sex, they gradually cease to be men. Being a man is about brains, brawn and work, not about looking cute."

Brawn and work perhaps but if they had brains then they wouldn't seriously consider this a point worth discussing. And if they are so insecure in their manhood that something routinely associated with females will cause them to "lose their manhood" then perhaps they didn't have much manhood to begin with ...

I don't have any raw data to back up this supposition but didn't men wear powdered wigs and face makeup in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries? Perhaps they were more secure in their masculinity than today's "modern" men?

But either way Johnny Depp rocks! ;-P

Jim Heivilin

jilbean3 5 pts

Thanks Liz! I mentioned you in my blog - since you did a review;)

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manicmom 5 pts

Johnny Depp, nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all.

I gave up good make up when I had the baby. Single motherhood sucks sometimes. I miss it. I like MAC also. So much. But I can dream of Johnny Depp whether I'm rich or poor...............

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Lisa Stone 6 pts

Oh, lawsy Liz. I remember those days. Oof, and the colors I was wearing...and the sheer size of the shoulder pads in my t-shirt...eeeee, make it stop!

Of course, if it meant I could either look like or look at Mr. Depp, I'd do it all again. Let's just say I'll be the one taking the kids to Pirates II...how about you, Liz Thompson?

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Liz Henry 5 pts

(Quote from William Shatner from the Trekkies movie... followed by "Because I make it my business to know everything there is to know about a woman's lips")

I like Mac the best for eyeliner and lipstick both! The liquid stuff is expensive and hard to put on, but lasts forever... Pencils are nice and I prefer them for good but not excessive smudginess.

I'm not sorry to spend 15 bucks on an eyeliner to say goodbye to the days when I had to hold my cheap 99 cent drugstore liner pencil, hard as a rock, under hot water in the girls bathroom, or use someone's lighter to soften it.

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jilbean3 5 pts

Thanks Liz! Great blog post! You really did your homework:)

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Liz Thompson 5 pts

Thanks for the heads up, Laura - Check out CBS Sunday Morning's report entitled, "Macho Is Only Skin Deep," (6/18) which has also picked up on this hot trend with it's byline, "More and more men look to beauty products to postpone aging."

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Laura Scott 5 pts

Funny how they market it. Concealer is called "camo". Lipstick is called "balm". And so on. Names you could use selling it in an army surplus store! LOL!

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