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Oprah ain't got no love for Hip-Hop

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Laina Dawes also writes at Writing is Fighting and is the Music Editor for Suite 101.com.

In the May issue of GQ Magazine, Rapper /Actor Ludacris complained about Oprah Winfrey's lack of interest in having Hip-Hop artists on her show. In the latest issue of FM Magazine, Rapper / Actor / Producer Ice Cube shared the same sentiments. But what they all have in common is making money at any cost. The only difference between them is how they do it.

Oprah (which admittedly, I'm not a fan of)panders to a specific audience: Middle-class suburban moms who watch her show to find out how 'the other half lives.' She has to promote the mega-superstars, which includes having that misogynst nutcase Tom Cruise, Bon Jovi and Beyonce on her show because that's what people feel comfortable with and what they want to see. When she had the cast of Crash on, it was pretty obvious that while Ludacris did a stellar acting job in the movie, she chose to critisize him on his lyrics. But hey, it's her show, right?

But what woman wants to be sexually objectified? When Rap music first emerged on the scene, I loved NWA, in which Ice Cube was a prominent member and I was digging Public Enemy and Run DMC. In those days, the music served as a gateway into another world - a world in which as a girl growing up in rural Ontario, I knew nothing about. The tales about the gritty life in the inner city, and messages of black empowerment were things that didn't know about, but were interested in experiencing. Obviously, things have changed for the worse.

Before Hip-Hop became popular, the artists were not making any money. Major record labels wern't really interested in signing black artists, not knowing the power of the genre on the streets, until public demand of underground mixtapes and sold -out concerts finally made them decide that they could capitalize on it. And when that happened, the quality of the music slowly started to slip. In my opinion, Hip-Hop is now focused on providing the public with what they want to hear - pandering to the prevailing stereotypes about the sexual accessibility of women of colour (which existed long before Hip-Hop), and critisizing women (predominantly black) who refuse to be marginalized, calling them 'bitches.' As I don't really listen to Hip-Hop these days for that reason, I do understand where some of the bullshit is coming from.

Hip-Hop is a gateway for a lot of people to make money. Undereducated, impoverished, some look at the music industry as a way to get out of a tricky situation. Some people cry, "get a real job," , but it isn't so easy for some. Yes, Oprah came from a challenging life and persevered, but she also had a lot of good luck, knew how to play the game to get what she wanted.

Last year, Vibe Magazine published an excellent article on the Ying-Yang Twins, one of the most offensive Hip-Hop groups out there. Both of the members have physical disabilites, and acknowledged that they wrote their lyrics because that was what their fans wanted to hear and that's what made them money, not because that's how they felt about women. They knew that their disabilities had hindered them socially and economically and this was a way where they could support themselves. Again, I'm certaintly not advocating "The Whisper Song" or Nelly's "Tip Drill," but there are two sides to every story.

When it comes to music videos, are we dragging black and latino women onto the set, forcing them into lingerie to shake their behinds in front of the camera? No. But what Oprah, Ludacris and Ice Cube should do is look at why these women feel that by participating in misogynst videos is a gateway into a bigger career - which it isn't, unless you write a tell-all book. Money is the underlying factor, and if you want it bad enough, you will do anything to get it, which includes pandering to get those lucrative advertising dollars, exploiting your own people and believing that the way to getting respect is through material wealth. Remember Paris, Oprah?

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Shuna Fish Lydon 5 pts

This is a great discussion.

"But what they all have in common is making money at any cost." Anyone as wealthy as Oprah, Ice Cube or any other major celebrity is innocent under this line. The entertainment is an industry fraught with scheming people looking for the next person to market. Just like the men who hang out in bus stations looking for runaway girls.

If I relied on the major media for my music, food, political, queer and other choices, I'd be SOL for conscious choices.

This discussion raises this question for me, is current hip hop echoing the goings-on of inner city/underserved youth, or are these goings on promoted for fodder for a music industry stuck in its own mire?

My body picks the music I listen to. I grew up on the streets of NYC with hip hop. It will remain in my bloodstream forever. But I agree that I am less likely to "support" any celebrity who agrees happily to be enslaved by a capitalist system that forces their humanity into the closet. Queen Latifah is no exception. I despise that she won't come out of the closet!

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Gena Haskett 6 pts

I will not pay cash money to be insulted or disrespected. The beat be damned.

Before the music and the words became corporate there was a diversity of rap performers such as comedians, historians, political, party, gospel, whatever. The radio stations DJs were free to program whatever music came down the pike, much of which was local acts and support of local parties/dances.

When recording companies and corporations discovered the potential cash flow they did what they have always done - focused in on those acts that they perceived could generate money quickly. Can't lose money selling teen-age boys sex and violence.

This coupled with the removal of DJs ability to program their own shows or promote local acts contributes to the crapola on the airwaves. Let's not also forget the effect that mega networks like Clear Channel have on what you hear and don't hear. Your local station can be produced by computer a thousand miles away.

You now have three+ generations that don't know there were/are alternatives to what is being sold.

And I'm not shedding too many tears for the those wealthy, media savvy rappers. They don't need Oprah. Ice Cube has produced two or three movies on his own. They have the money and now the technology to create independently of any studio.

Debra Roby 5 pts

Nah.. we old farts are saying: back in my day they SANG their lyrics!!

walks away gently singing.. "Ina Gadda Davida, Baby..."

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Elisa Camahort 8 pts

When I first heard "The Message."

I was driving in my car to my college job selling shoes at Macy's. I sat there in the parking lot until the song finished. I thought this was an amazing genre of music that was going to change the world.

And then I heard some Doug E. Fresh and thought that the genre could also just be damn entertaining.

And then two things happened: More and more anti-woman language made it clear I wasn't the intended target audience. And less and less focus on being actually able to understand the lyrics. You can hear every biting word on "The Message", and therefore it is impossible to miss the message.

Or maybe I'm just getting old, and my hearing has been destroyed by too many rock concerts and loud music on my car stereo. Sometimes I feel like some stereotypical old fart saying "those damn kids and their loud music. Back in my day you could understand the words!"

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Laura Scott 5 pts

I had a much longer comment, but ended up cutting it down to just the quote because, well, I just did. I wasn't suggesting that Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five were of the same ilk as today's mainstream rappers, but rather that this lyric is as true today as it was in 1982.

And I do see the message in The Message as almost prophetic for today's rap mainstream, which strikes me as a "con" of sorts -- the con of misogyny, victim-mind rage and a whole Madison Avenue fashion show. (An unfair generalization, yes, but looking at our mainstream pop culture today, I'm amused by how all these nonconformists end up sounding and dressing alike -- though I'm sure my generation gave "grown ups" a similar impression way back when feathered hair, Levis cords [remember Dittos? - how appropriately named!] and Wallabes were the thing.)

When I first heard The Message, I was blown away. I bought an extended 12" single of it (with New York New York on the flip) that I played over and over over the years until the grooves were polished flat. The next verse after the one quoted is a rebuttal from the daddy offering a warning, as you say, but you can sense he's saying it knowing that it's falling on deaf ears.

lainad 5 pts

Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" was not to promote violence or drug use, It was a story about what it was like to live in the inner-city and the story of a man who is watching his neighbourhood change for the worse. That's why he says, "It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under," saying that it is hard for him to see the changes (and keep his sanity) in his neighbourhood. I'm unsure wbout who did the vocals on that particular track (Melle Mel?), but it was a very popular track back in the day.Actually, it is a very good example of what Hip-Hop in the day, did - provide a window into the inner-city existence, storytelling about people's experiences because it was the only form of cummunication to let others know what was going on. To spark change, not to promote little becky to pick up a crack pipe -which is the problem with alot of people's thinking.

Sorry Rogue, I don't know all the Hip-Hop artists off the top of my head.

Lisa, I'm more into Metal and Punk(which has it's share of misogynistic BS too), But I would suggest getting Bahmadia (she has at least two albums out) and Jean Grae - both who are on independent records - oh, and Jurassic 5. Also, check out the list of artists at Okayplayer.com ( http://www.okayplayer.com ). Run buy the Roots, all of their artists are socially and politically consious.

rogue3xmen13 5 pts

TLC, Left Eye was a rapper, and I good one at that.

Rogue
(The X-Woman most of you tend to forget.)

Lisa Stone 6 pts

Laina, I hear you. From the lyrics to the album covers, you can bet I am pushing my son toward Everlast as fast as I can.

I'm in a bind here. As someone who loves hip-hop and rap but hates the lyrics, I have upgraded my old cassettes of Salt-n-Pepa and Queen Latifah to CDs. They sit next to my Judy Mowat and No Doubt. Not that I can allow my son to listen to SNP talk about sex either -- but having known a few Sommatime Man-types myself, I love their rhymes and I love what they've been able to accomplish (especially as mothers and, in some cases, single mothers) in a male-dominated field.

Any women you think I should add to my tiny collection?

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Laura Scott 5 pts

It seems the message hasn't changed ( http://www.lyricsfreak.com/g/grandmaster+flash/the... ):

My son said daddy I dont wanna go to school
Cause the teachers a jerk, he must think Im a
Fool
And all the kids smoke reefer, I think itd be
Cheaper
If I just got a job, learned to be a street sweeper
I dance to the beat, shuffle my feet
Wear a shirt and tie and run with the creeps
Cause its all about money, aint a damn thing
Funny
You got to have a con in this land of milk and
Honey

lainad 5 pts

But there are alot of concious Hip-Hop artists out there...it's just that the media in general likes to glorify the bad, choosing to promote the artist that are 'cooning' to make a buck and it also serves as a way to reinforce negative stereotypes. If Oprah really gave a shit,or if people would actually think outside the box, she could have socially concious artists like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Common, dead prez, The Roots, Bahamadia, Jean Grae - skilled lyricists who could do with some publicity when they are promoting a new album.

rogue3xmen13 5 pts

Many people hate Rap and Hip Hop, but who can blame them? They have not put on a good face lately. Calling women "bitches, sluts, whores, skanks, and hootcies" has not always been my type of thing. The only songs I ever loved from hip hop were the old school songs. I mean when hip hop first began.

Rogue
(The X-Woman most of you tend to forget.)