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Tell me all about your reproduction plans so I might judge you

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One of the questions so often asked of women--after When are you getting married?-- just might be "When are you having children?" Once you have a child, you hear “When are you having another?� Unless, of course, your first pregnancy or firstborn child came with trauma, heartache or illness. Then somehow you are put into some sort of “How dare you!� column.

I heard it after my stillborn son. "How could you risk that again? Shouldn't you just adopt?" Well, as much as I appreciated that unsolicitated advice (NOT), it never ceased to amaze me that people would dare to suggest I should not try again.

It seems as if Suzanne at Mother in Chief is getting the same sort of "helpful" comments. Judgement. The "how could you" type comments and looks are so painful and, really, don't serve any purpose. Yet, so many of us who have gone through the hard times of either losing a child or having a sick child receive that look. We see it.

When TIC was in the hospital earlier this year--during one of his darkest days in the Pediatric Cardiac Intensive Care Unit--one of the nurses asked me, "So, why did you decide to have another?" The tears fell on cue. Her tone suggested that she couldn't believe that we decided to have another, considering things obviously hadn't worked out so well with the first one. I have often suspected that people have wondered that about us--not that it's anyone's business if we decide to have more kids. But especially as I waddled around the hospital for those six weeks, I often felt like I was being judged. And from the tone of that nurse's voice, I apparently was, even as I hovered over the listless body of my three-year-old son.

It hurts. It is uncalled for. We have a right to our family. We have a right to have more children. It is our risk to take. It is our family we are building. We are allowed to give ourselves permission to keep living. To believe in our family.

Suzanne says it perfectly:

We were still haunted by what was to come. But after his second surgery, we realized that having another baby was like giving ourselves permission to keep living. Our life didn't end when we had a child with life-threatening health problems. It had just become part of who we are. Even though our experience could never be described as normal, it's the only experience we know; it's our normal. There will always be life before and life after. But that doesn't mean we need to be totally defined by where we've been, what we've seen, the sorrow we've felt, the mourning we've done, the uncertainty we face.

She summed up so perfectly what many of us feel. We do not need to be defined by our previous experiences. We did not choose what happened to us. We did not choose to have heartbreak. And honestly, we are not choosing to have your judgement. We are choosing to handle our family and our lives in the way that we feel is best for us.

So stand with us. Support us. Tell us you are rooting for us. But please, don't put us in a "how could you" column of some list of who should or should not have children. We can do without that, thankyouverymuch.

GO Suzanne!

Even with all of our downs--and we've had more than our share--the ups, the joys of being a parent to my special kid, far outweigh all that other stuff. Don't get me wrong, that other stuff is real, it's there everyday. But sometimes we forget about it for a few minutes and we live and we laugh and we just are. And it's all worth it.

It IS all worth it.

BlogHer Contributing Editor Jenn Satterwhite also blogs at Mommy Needs Coffee and Mommybloggers.

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fritz 5 pts

Because they don't want to hurt you, or judge you, they just don't think. But sometimes I think that not thinking might be one of the worst things you can do.

You know, I just got off the phone from a conversation with somebody I haven't seen in years. "And why do you have only one child after all this time? You have plenty of room."

Well, maybe the housing would be adequate, but then maybe it is a sensitive issue.

If you're interested in reading my thoughts about "When do you plan to have the second one?" go to this entry ( http://susannefritzsche.blogspot.com/2006/03/and-w... ) or in German: hier ( http://windeln-und-musik.blogspot.com/2006/03/und-... )

(Nothing dramatic there. Only a woman pissed with being asked all the time while it was a conflict issue in her relationship.)

Genie Gratto 9 pts

People judge. It's human nature. But it doesn't mean we have to like...or tolerate it. Debra, I love your list, and Carmen, I second your addition to it.

My boyfriend and I live together, and I cannot tell you how often I get asked when we're getting married and/or when we're having kids. People ask. They speculate out loud to my face. They make suggestions. It never occurs to people (include people very close to me), that this doesn't qualify as simple, friendly interest in my life, particularly if you've asked once and I've already given you a vague and evasive answer (a Polite Society Indicator of "I don't want to talk about this").

But while it gets my ire up, I try to keep at the forefront of my mind that people judge out of the place where they live. Most of the time, the judgements against another person are simply their way of validating their own choices. You aren't making the same choice I am? Well, then there must be something wrong with you, because there certainly isn't anything wrong with me!

The judgers should have better things to do. There are, after all, plenty of causes in the world that need taking up, and, barring that, plenty of errands to run, books to read, movies to watch, songs to listen to, recipes to try. But somehow it's more entertaining for them to get all up in someone else's business.

I try not to ask people any more about the kids issue, but it's one of those "standard" questions...like "What do you do?" or "What's your major?" for the college set. But I'm weaning myself off the habit, because it's none of my business, and because you never know whether someone's trying and can't, or already tried and couldn't, or already tried and could and decided not to, or any of the thousands of variations on the theme.

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Yvette Perry 5 pts

A wonderful, if somewhat heartbreaking, round-up of posts. Thank you for bringing them to our attention. And my heart goes out to everyone who has had to put up with such insensitivity from others.

MoonGoddessMomma 5 pts

business.

Hi there ladies. I am new here to the blog. I have been lurking and reading, but thought I would register in order to add my two cents to this post. I have two beautiful children and count myself very lucky to never have had to experience the pain that many of my mommy friends have had to experience. Miscarriages or infertility. I have two dear friends who have adopted and have had so many people who have presented them with rude ignorant comments. Even a doctor once upset my friend. Here is a short example of what he did
Doc: M, do you know who your mommy is?
M: There she is (points to his mommy L)
Doc: Are you sure she is your mommy?
M: nods
Doc: Are your sure?

L stands there flabbergasted since the doctor has taken care of her son since she adopted him. She was so upset. Finally the nurse had to say something to stop the doctor. L was so upset and shocked she was in that situation where she didn't know what to say. He was three at the time.

People are just rude. "They" think they have the right to give unsolicited advice about everything from relationships to reproduction to child rearing.

Daisy 5 pts

I, too, experienced this after my second child was diagnosed as congenitally blind. People wanted to know if we were going to have another child. I say, MYOB. Only we, the parents, know what we can and will handle. Daisy

JennaHatfield 10 pts

I recently experienced an early miscarriage. I've got some who are telling me, "Your heart will heal if you have one as soon as possible." I've got some telling me, "Just be grateful for what you have and move on." I've got another (notsonicewoman) telling me that I shouldn't mourn my lost child because we weren't trying. *blinks* Of course, all of this is unsolicited advice.

My Husband and I are currently unsure of our next step. There are days that we want twelve children running around and driving us mad. There are others that we think Nicholas is just fine. And with either extreme, someone always has something to say. "Children shouldn't be raised without siblings!" "If you have more than 2.5 kids you're killing the enviornment!"

Funny; I thought our family was ours to make. Hmm.
(Thanks for posting this.)

Family Living; Hatfield Style ( http://www.thejhatfields.org/blog )
Jenna

Jules 5 pts

And there's also the flipside of this as well, which is the conversation I had with my doctor last week. I'm calling it the "You've-just-turned-30-if-you-want-to-have-babies-you-better-do-it-fast" conversation.

What was really funny was that we had this discussion AFTER a discussion about the scar from my navel piercing, which I had said was "something I had done was I was young" and she had said "30 isn't old" - EXCEPT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE BABIES!!

Jules

BlogHer Contributing Editor, Australia, New Zealand & Oceania ( http://www.blogher.com/topic/world/australia-nz-oc... )
Dragongirl blog ( http://www.dragongirl76.blogspot.com )

jaycee 5 pts

Regarding Carmen's comment above, she's totally right. I wonder why people have more than 2 or 3 kids but that's really just because I know I couldn't handle it.

But regarding people having other kids after a trauma previously - why the hell not. Why should you wallow if something awful happened previously.

I'm sure I get judged on aspects of my parenting but it's how I choose to bring up my child so while being conscious of this, I try not to judge others.

Carmen S 5 pts

I agree with all of the above, and I'd also amend it to add

to have a larger number of children than you think I should.

None of those things in the above column are anyone else's business.

I also hear similar things when I'm out with my sixth, who has a form of autism. I've been told that "it's a sign" that we shouldn't have any more children, since we screwed up with the last.

Debra Roby 5 pts

Once again, I'm thinking that our definitions of "pro choice" when it comes to reproduction has to be greatly expanded to accept all the choices:

to have children or not to;
to have a particular child or not;
to have another child after a trauma or not.
to remain fertile or not.

Or maybe we can all just learn to mind our own business and let each person/couple make decisions for themselves without any need for judgement.

Debra
A Stitch In Time ( http://astitchintime.blogspot.com )
Deb's Daily Distractions ( http://debsdistractions.blogspot.com )