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I watched coverage of the Notre Dame debacle on Sunday and was struck by two things:

1) the erosion of both religious integrity and personal conviction.

2) the illogical framing of the abortion debate.

As someone who has studied the Bible extensively and owns every published version in circulation (and has studied various verses comparatively) I'm not going to engage in a Scripture battle of what God says about life in the womb, or when molecular biology says that life begins, or how the argument isn't, as my friend Katie has said, not "over when life begins; the debate is over when life is worthy of protection." I will simply say this: the biggest perceived threat to Christianity doesn't come from The Gays, or from Hollywood, or from booze, or from the "Rock of Love Bus"; it comes from within Christianity itself. The problem manifests itself in the people who warm the pews and praise God on Sundays but betray Him with their mouths and actions on Monday. The problem continues from this when our kids see hypocritical behavior from authority within the church. They see it in the egregious transgressions of those who eagerly clamor to lead the flock. They see it from a university that claims Catholicism yet honors a president who has made it a point to favor abortion groups with regards to policy, groups that go against a tenant of the Catholic faith.

The erosion of the religious integrity comes when you have people who cherry pick which of God's laws they want to follow and try to validate it with moral relativism.

This is why there is a decline in pastoral enrollment, why "for every American who joins the Catholic Church, four others leave."

To pass off responsibility for these misdeeds ignores the problem with those who claim the faith and perpetuates the hypocrisy. In my opinion, such Christians are no better than people like Pat Robertson or Benny Hinn, people who claim to talk for God and embarrass themselves whenever given the chance.

I'm also tired of the way in which people attempt to frame this issue. I'll come right out and say it, at the expense of losing popularity with those who can't tolerate diversity in opinion: I am also all for choice.

Completely and totally.

I am all for the woman's right to choose which form of birth control she wants to use, be it the birth control pill, the condom, or straight up pulling out; I am all for her deciding whether or not she wants to have sex on days when she is most fertile; I am all for her choice in eschewing sex completely, if that's what she wants to do. Supporting a woman's choice as to what happens with her body and supporting a kid's choice as to what happens with hers or his are not mutually exclusive things. The problem isn't with sex education, it's with apathy. Case in point: we've exponentially increased the amount spent on sex ed programs yet the teen birthrate has risen. People know how babies are made.

When President Obama said that we must find common ground I cringed a bit. This isn't Cap and Trade, it isn't an economic principle, it's not an opinion that either side holds; to find common ground one must back off a fundamental principle of what they believe.“The problem here is that we’re trivializing abortion,” said Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life. It doesn't just trivialize abortion, it also trivializes the beliefs of either side to assume that they can just lay down fundamental beliefs for the sake of false political harmony.

Says Kim from the Mother of All Conservatives:

Yesterday, President Obama said in his commencement speech at Notre Dame that abortion is an issue over which we should just agree to disagree. This is a view that I and many others like me who see abortion as an abomination and a moral outrage can not accept. I can not just agree to disagree on the termination of a million innocent and defenseless human beings a year.

Additionally, the president's pledge to work to decrease the amount of abortions sent a very convoluted message. An interesting point from the American Daily Review:

If abortion is good, if the child inside of the mother is nothing more than a lifeless blob that won’t be missed, and is dispensable, then why seek to reduce the number of abortions? Obama, in an attempt to appeal to both sides of

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alyssaroyse 5 pts

I've thought about this a lot, and written about it a lot ( http://justcauseit.com/blogs/alyssa-royse/ill-choo... ), and the Notre Dame debacle made something very clear to me....  Suddenly I realized that all of these pro-life supporters seemed more like pro-birth supporters to me. Which is fine, as long as it's honest.

But it seems to me that someone who was truly pro-LIFE would have celebrated the achievements of these students, and the presence of our first African American president, and seen it as an achievement representative of the essence of LIFE itself. 

I found the whole thing to be hypocritical, selfish and short-sighted. Life is about a whole lot more than the moment of birth. It seems to me that we need to deal with healthcare, education - even civil rights - before we declare that we've solved all the problems in "life" and are now ready to focus on the one moment that is "birth."

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Mata H 5 pts

Does Notre Dame (or any Catholic college) accept any federal funding or grants? Is accepting this long term funding support somehow less negative than asking the President of the United States to speak?

Does Notre Dame (or any Catholic college) invite to speak (or to serve on the faculty) anyone who does not accept the final moral authority of the Pope? Why is a rejection of the basic authority of the Magisterium tolerated in a Catholic institution, but Obama's invitation raises an uproar?

I honestly do not understand. Either a university understands itself as a Catholic-funded and influenced institution in a secular world, or it may as well retreat to a hermitage and restore cloistered communities.

This is a thorny area. The lines are not as black and white and unconflicting as you may suggest. Good people, serious people of decent intent have looked at the same Bible you do and come up with a different view on this issue -- but they are no less studied, no less serious, no less in search of the truth as are you. They may sit next to you at church, or across the aisle at university classes from each other.

People are entrenched on this issue. No progress will be made for anyone by one saying "I'm right" and the other saying "No, I am right." I think Obama is correct in acknowledging this. And I think a university is the perfect place to do it.

If it is "hypocrisy" that "a university that claims Catholicism ...honors a president who has made it a point to favor ...groups that go against a tenant of the Catholic faith." then what should the church do about you? You say "I am all for the woman's right to choose which form of birth control she wants to use, be it the birth control pill, the condom" Yet the church is as opposed to bc pills and condoms as they are to abortion. This portion of Humanae Vitae ( http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclic... )(and the long text following it)leaves little wiggle room.

The Church, nevertheless, in urging men to the observance of the precepts of the natural law, which it interprets by its constant doctrine, teaches that each and every marital act must of necessity retain its intrinsic relationship to the procreation of human life.

I have no problem with this inconsistency, btw. I never thought one had to be 100% in line with everything Rome said/did/wanted to be good Catholic.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool ( http://timesfool.blogspot.com )

dcarnes 5 pts

I commend the Notre President for acknowledging we're living in the 21st century and his University is filled with students who have 21st views and values.

Abortion is not about religion, it's about women's rights. I for one will fight to the bitter end to preserve my rights. And while I disagree with your pro-choice views I'm not in any way restricting your civil rights or your rights as a woman. So, why would you attempt to restrict mine?

The reality is that abstinence doesn't work and under our former president who put boatloads of money into abstinence, it only got worse, with 1 in 4 teenage girls now contracting an STD.

If abortion wasn't legal, it would still happen. That's a fact. So, we can go back to the 20th century or we can continue in the 21st century, providing women safe options and the ability to make the personal healthcare choices that are right for them. 

Again, kudos to the Notre Dame president for his courage and his leadership.

kdg 5 pts

I think my subject line sums it up pretty well.  Colleges are places that challenge your thinking.  By graduation time, if you can't listen to someone speak about a subject and evaluate that person's ideas on their merits - either conceding some points or constructing a coherent arguement against them - then your education hasn't done you any favors.  Listen.  Accept.  Reject.  All part of a learning process.  College.

ebyrdstarr 5 pts

But why is abortion the issue, and seemingly the only issue, that some Christians, particularly Catholics, judge people on?  You seem critical that Notre Dame "sold out" by inviting the president and honoring him.  But Notre Dame has previously invited presidents who committed adultery.  How come they aren't hypocritical for that?  Lots of other politicans have voted on things in ways that the Catholic Church might not agree with, but Notre Dame doesn't seem to receive criticism for allowing those politicians to speak. 

Preaching to the Choir ( http://rantsofapublicdefender.blogspot.com/ )

nellewrites 6 pts

was rather silly. I really don't care if people protest when he is there, it is their right.

Obama is president however one feels about his election victory, and if tradition is to invite a president to speak, you invite him.

Bush held views that fly in the face of Catholic teachings, and wonder if anyone challenged his invite. Protest while he was there? Again, fine with me. 

There is middle ground on abortion, not middle ground in the sense we write law that compromises pc and pl positions, but rather things on the periphery... universal health care, viable and worthy sex ed, wide availability of cheap contraceptives... surely we can find our way to these things and reduce the total number of unintended pregnancies to begin with, an achievement that would also reduce the number of abortions - without anyone taking away rights.

Yet some challenge universal health care. Some challenge schools teaching sex ed, or what might be taught in sex ed, preferring a narrow and limited sharing of information, as if lack of knowledge has ever been a logical and responsible choice in the totality of human history. And some... will go nuts at the prospect of high schoolers having access to contraceptives.

We create our own issue, or at least we make it worse. Yes, plers and pcers will never agree on who has primacy rights, but we can somewhat mitigate the issue...if we try. 

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PunditMom 5 pts

Isn't part of the problem on this issue the many conservatives who also feel that birth control in any form is wrong? How can we as a country and as families approach the birth control issue responsibly when there are so many who advocate for abstinence only, which, as we know from so many examples including Bristol Palin, just doesn't work.

If there were more opportunities in schools and families for our teens to be taught about real and effective birth control, clearly there would be fewer instances when women would even have to consider the abortion question. Isn't that where we all should be able to find common ground?

Also, I have to wonder -- how do conservatives feel about Sarah Palin's post-election confession that she did think about abortion, at least momentarily, when she found out her baby had Down's Syndrome?

PunditMom ( http://pundimom1.blogspot.com )
aka Joanne Bamberger ( http://www.mediabistro.com/joannebamberger )
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