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If Women Aren't Funny, Then Why Do We Hang Around So Many Clowns?

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As the story goes, during the 70’s Gilda Radner would perch on producer Lorne Michael’s lap and coo into his ear during writer’s meetings at Saturday Night Live. And since it was difficult for any member of the highly competitive cast to get their sketches on the air, it was no surprise that Gilda’s always got on.

This isn’t to take away from her extraordinary talent. I think Gilda may have played the Daddy card when she realized it worked better in those days, when the seedling of feminism was still trying to force its way through the weeds in Daddy’s backyard.

When Jane Curtin recently appeared on Oprah she mentioned the sexism female cast members encountered in her days on the show. She said John Belushi thought women weren’t “fundamentally funny,” something many of the male standup comics I’ve worked with also believe. They’re always careful to exclude me from this blanket statement because they value the Holy Trinity of their penis and testicles. Still, their judgment of my female peers leaves me wondering why I gave up drinking. And I know that behind my back I’m not safe from their prejudice.
 
Jane also mentioned she couldn’t even get a credit card back then and Chevy Chase interrupted her to sardonically add, “Yeah, I’m the reason you didn’t get a credit card.”

Chevy, you ignorant slut.

I started doing comedy back in the 80’s when there were about twenty-five women doing standup in New York. As we tried to join the men who had traded in city clubs for the more lucrative road work, we faced a rejection that couldn’t be defended: “We had a woman here once and she died so we’re not using any more women.”

Having never seen this mythical, unnamed woman we could only wonder if every guy who played their club had done a good job. Had no man ever died there? Hello, is this thing on only for men?

About twenty years ago, at a Long Island club so ill suited to live performance that the blenders at the bar were louder than the comedians using microphones, the man who booked me watched my set and then watched the set of the guy who followed me. A man with few jokes but who was headlining to the sounds of silence. When I asked the booker how that happened he replied:

“We’re giving him as much headliner work as possible so he can get better because we think he has huge potential.”
“What about me?”
“Well, if you were a man you’d already be headlining.”

A few months ago this same comic and I did a gig together and guess what? After twenty years? He got better!

(Larry David, Suzy Soro, and Jerry Seinfeld: Image Courtesy of Suzy Soro)

I had two male champions back in the 80’s, a comic named Rondell Sheridan, who went on to star in That’s So Raven, and Larry David of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Rondell warned me off certain bookers because “they don’t use women” and Larry went to bat for me at a NY club I was thrown out of twice. The club ignored Larry. I moved to L.A.

Dr. Joyce Brothers said being funny is equal to having power so men are threatened by funny women because it means giving their power away. Have you ever met a man who didn’t think he was hilarious? And who was looking for a woman with a great sense of humor? To laugh at him!

Is now a good time to mention that a penis and a microphone look exactly alike? And that I grip a mic until it bursts into flames whenever I use it?

Have you ever noticed how many female comedians use a baby voice when they perform? Do they act like Daddy’s Little Girl because that’s the way to get ahead in our mostly male dominated business? Has nothing changed since Gilda Radner?

A few years ago at the Improv in Hollywood I was sitting at owner Budd Friedman’s Table. It was where all the big kids sat, comics who had made it, done TV, didn’t piss Budd off. I turned to Tonight Show veteran comic Diane Nichols and asked if she’d encountered any sexism in her twenty-five plus years and she replied, “Of course.” I asked if she’d heard the “We had a woman here once but she died so we don’t use women anymore” and she roared. Of course she had!

Mario Joyner, a black comic

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Suzy Soro 5 pts

Just Linda, no they obviously haven't met you or they'd have been laughing.

suebob, OH MY GOD I've dated that guy. I love that men who think they're funny very often are not. And the ones who don't think it's a big deal are the ones who are. I've forgotten what my point was. Again.

jviddles, thanks for the youtube. I haven't watched it yet because I'm too buy laughing at my plumber's jokes. HE'S A LAUGH RIOT.

Alexandra, as usual you make me blush with your compliments. xo

alexandraRS 5 pts

Alexandra  ( http://www.gooddayregularpeople.com/ ) keeps a humor blog, Good Day, Regular People.com ( http://www.gooddayregularpeople.com/ ), where she writes of small town life, raising 3 boys.

I have fallen in love with Suzy Soro's writing because she always offers up the truth.

No bull. Just how it happened.

I keep hoping she'll put it all together, because her stories/posts/tweets are the most interesting things on the internet for me.

How she has all these tales to tell, is incredible.

This post? I'd love to see her post things like this weekly.

I can't get enough of the behind the scenes.

jviddles 5 pts

The mentioning of Gilda and all the old SNL girls brought to mind this funny skit that shows the origin of how women are better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1fhNPtURsY

suebob 7 pts

I think Dr. Joyce Brothers may have something there. That made a light bulb pop on over my head - the men who are most afraid of being exposed as weak or vulnerable are the most afraid to give women the power to make them laugh.

I dated a guy who would never laugh at me. Instead, he would turn to me and say "You're not funny. You think you're funny, but you're not." Yeah, THAT was pleasant. It wasn't until I got away from him that I realized "Hey, people are laughing! I AM funny."

justlinda 9 pts

Some people think women aren't funny?

Have they MET me?

;)

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Suzy Soro 5 pts

PollyOScott, I laugh the most with my sister and my mother and as far as I know, neither of them are men.

Fangirl, Lisa darling, your support over the years has really touched me. And not like an uncle.

Anna, things have inched forward over the years but the women doing standup now are more like men. They insult or talk about boy stuff like poop or farts.

Ann, that's sad about McSweeney's but I'm not surprised. Sadly.

Jeni, your definition of bitchy and bossy is so SPOT ON! Love it.

Jessica Bern has been through the same crap I have here in Hollywood and NY. It hurt us as comedians more than it hurt us as women. So there.

BERNTHIS.COM 5 pts

I had a woman who at one point was the head of casting of a huge network tell me that it was true, women weren't as funny as men.

Wow, wonder there why so many sitcoms are headed by men made from the same cookie cutter.

highlyirritable 6 pts

I think *people* are funny.

I loved that Jane addressed this on Oprah – it must have been so difficult to know your comic ability and then be unable to secure “permission” to perform it without further subverting yourself. Subversion is never a good thing, but I think that in some ways it forced many women to create their own specific brands of humour.

I love going to clubs and watching both men and women perform, and I especially enjoy watching male audience member’s reactions to the comics. When male performers hit it, men in the room all look at each other like, “Hey! This guy is funny. He *gets* it.” When their female counterparts kill it, the men look around slightly uncomfortable, thinking, “Uh oh. This chick is scary. She *gets* it.” It’s one thing to forge a bond through humour based on commonalities like sex organs, but when you start showing some awareness about how they think, and probe the dark places humour comes from, things can get awkward.

And I agree with Anna regarding notions of power and humour – I’ve been the one in the group referred to as “that bitchy bossy” one – bitchy and bossy being code for “funnier than me and leaving with my balls in her purse.”

Jeni

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AnnsRants 5 pts

Awesome behind the scenes view, Suzy. Thanks!!

Another example of chauvanism-lite is how people love the term "mommyblogging" as a cozy umbrella to stick any online writer under who has spawned

I have male friends in the business now, who I grew up with in my hometown. When I started writing online, and describing it as a humor blog there was a definite (sure, sure, riiiiight) vibe until I got published on McSweeneys site.

Speaking of--I was leafing through one of McSweeneys published humor volumes, and out of 50 pieces, I could identify 3 that were written by females. So there you go.

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anna.lefler 5 pts

I've never understood this bias, but I know it exists.

And I agree with the association of humor with power. Anyone who's ever "shown up" a male who thinks he's the funniest guy in the room will have felt that dynamic first-hand.

I'd like to think things have improved over the last 20 years...but there is still a ways to go before people judge the material rather than the gender of the person delivering it.

Thanks for this post, Suzy!

Anna Lefler is a writer and humorist who blogs at Life Just Keeps Getting Weirder ( http://www.lifejustkeepsgettingweirder.blogspot.co... ) and tweets over on this perch ( http://twitter.com/AnnaLefler ).

lisahgolden 5 pts

This is why I'm a fan of Suzy Soro. Funny and smart.

Lisa

PollyOScott 5 pts

As a sit-down comedian myself, it's been hard to get my writing off the ground. But I have found comfort in my few die-hard fans. I have never laughed as hard with a man as I have with women. Women are hilarious. I couldn't live without my funny girl-friends, and my dedicated, responsible husband:).

Suzy Soro 5 pts

Keira: Chevy Chase is a knob but even some doors need one.

2Commentaristas: Working hard at something you love always pays off. Although not always in cash.

Carrie: Men would love female comics more if we performed in the nude.

Alex: Every woman who went before me advanced women in comedy and I can only hope I did the same for women coming up behind me.

Alex@LateEnough 5 pts

I find myself hilarious so I KNOW women are funny.

Honestly, some of the funniest stuff I've heard is from women.

We have certainly not come a long way but at least it very slowly gets better each year? decade? generation?

Alex Iwashyna can be found blogging on Late Enough ( http://www.lateenough.com ) or tweeting at @L8enough ( http://twitter.com/L8enough ). Probably in her pjs.

Carrie Valium 5 pts

Women ARE funny, men just are not smart enough to "get it." Thanks for writing a wonderful piece!

2commentaristas 5 pts

Good for you, seriously. Also hoping that it paid off.

Keira 5 pts

"They’re always careful to exclude me from this blanket statement"

As if excluding me from the group i belong to so you can belittle them is supposed to be a compliment.

Also, I'm glad someone else picked up on Chevy Case being a knob in that video!

Good on you for doing the hard yards- hope its paid off.