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Obama Presidency = The End Of Hip-Hop? Let's Hope Women Start Getting Respect

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Call me old....I haven't listened to a Hip-Hop album or checked out a Hip-Hop blog in awhile, so I was a bit surprised when I was checking out my friend Del Cowie's blog and through one of his posts was directed to MissInfo.TV's site. Amanda Diva is a Hip-Hop artist and a former MTV2 veejay who, in response to the commenter's who posted on Nahright in response to her new single, said this:

In reading more of the foulness I then took it as an affront to women in the game in general. Real talk we put up with SO much bs from dudes simply based on “I mean, niggas will be niggas. You know the game” But fuck that! It doesn’t have to be that way and the disrespect should NOT be accepted…..

Viewing the comments like “I wanna f— her raw in her c—,” and “She looks like she takes n– in her face,” (ewww nasty) etc. and the blogger’s indifference of them honestly made me feel like, “dag here we go with another forum for dudes to objectify and completely demean us.” It wasn’t about me wanting respect as an emcee but more so me wanting at least the minimum as a woman. So, I approached (not attacked as some have been insinuating) Eskay because I felt a “way” about his handling of it. In the end however, felt like he understood my point and have no ill feelings toward him whatsoever. There was no “twitter fight” of any sort. What I look like fighting on twitter?! Gimme SOME credit ya’ll, lol.

As the images of President Obama, First Lady and their cute-as-a-button little girls inspired many to ask if they will inspire more black folks to honor the traditional family (which I think is mildly patronizing) I also wondered if an Obama presidency means the death of Hip-Hop.

Why?

Well, part of the roots of Rap were about the opportunity for disenfranchised communities to speak openly about their lives. Now that a brother is in the White House, is there still a need? Also, Mark Hemingway from the National Review Online suggested that the amount of memorabilia that was available in Washington on the day of the Inauguration, especially one in particular would suggest that it is ( see link). On Wednesday, The Atlantic's Ta-Nehisi Coates, responded to Hemingway's glib remarks, by saying this:

In the real world, where real people live, and breath real air, a multitude of forces--cultural, social, economic, etc.--weigh on people. Barack Obama will certainly change something about black culture. But anyone who's spent any time around actual people should know better then to act like they know what that is, or how it will play out. These guys are Skip Bayless, telling you who's going to the Super Bowl next year.

For more on Coates opinion, you can read it here. One of the most troubling issues about the genre that I once loved, was the representations of women of color, not just in the videos, but the lyrical content. That, as the example above notes, has translated into the language that commenters on the post use to describe Amanda Diva. I thought that over time, the foolness would stop, but obviously it hasn't.

Tiffany Shorter from Hip Hop Republican believes that Michelle Obama will be a good role model for Black Woman, solidifying the fact that black women can raise their children and be a supportive spouse, too(?):

Although slavery and segregation has ended, the African American community continues to struggle with building strong families ties. Over 40% of black men and women have never married and about 70 percent of children are born out of wedlock. Many black Republicans want to promote family values in Washington regardless that 2009 will bring a Democrat administration.

Black Republicans and the black community at large can benefit from the constant example of Michelle Obama who has successful balanced the demands of politics with the needs of her husband and children.

I do agree that there are huge issues within many communities, not just among black folk, but really, aren't people wishing too much that all of a sudden that the Obama will miraculously solve all the dysfunctional relationships? Will the image of the two dancing at a ball suddenly make a deadbeat dad marry his baby mama? Will he rush to the bank and hand over the years of child support that he neglected

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Clamo88 5 pts

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Great points sadly women have lost respect for themselves.  Yes women are under paid the fastest raise I ever got was the day I found out that a male co-worker told me how much he was being paid I was shocked he was being paid more than me with 5 years less experience.  When I confronted my supervisor on the manner I was told he had a family to support, you see he was married  and she worked, I was a single mother with 5 children( my family that I supported ) you can see how that did not sit well so my come back was and my 5 children are just pets that I keep in the kennel.  I had a raise in 30 mins.  I did not receive back pay which I do believe I should have gotten.  You see I also was the one that train this co-worker.  The raise was only .50 cents more than the co-workers so I did leave shortly after because I knew what he was making and they told me how they where paying so much more to me than anyone else. 

I could give you the name of 20  young women that have babies by 2 or 3 different  daddies, all unmarried and the way the men (I almost choke on that word) talk about them and to them makes me see red.  What really sad the young women don't understand why he treats her like ****.  They don't understand you have to respect yourself before others will.

The hero's the young women choose to model themselves after are not on your list or mine. Happily married wives are not hero's, because men want sexy, unrealistic expectation for her body and sexual behavior, no matter what it does to that woman's self esteem

It more along the line of the sex symbols those who have been seen in the nude or almost nude, music video, magazine and movies.  The men and women don't seem to realize lighting, airbrushing and a lot of special effects make these women look so flawless and are unrealistic goals for the real world.

It's a mess it would seem the only way to protect the girls  and young women is to stop access to the music, magazine and movie that show  them how to be dis respectable to themselves  and men would not compare them to this fantasy woman :)  OH that's not legal :)  Dreaming of a world were men are men, women are women, families stay together forever and everyone loves other maybe one day.

lainad 5 pts

You are completely correct in your observations ( or at least in my opinion, anyway). 

Because Obama is the first Black president and also a Democrat - which is refreshing after 8 years of Republican hell - I think people are so eager that they are referring to him as a Messiah. Since the election, I have seen the most outlandish demands coming from both African-Americans and other groups, demanding that he must now 'fix' all the social ails of the world within at least the next four years. As I mentioned above, I think that because the Obama family seems to outsiders that they are perfect, the sheen will / or must rub off on all of the (supposedly) downtrodden blacks who cannot make decisions on their own, and must or can be easily led on the right path. But what exactly is the right path?

One of the things that is really detrimental to all people is that minority groups are always perceived as 'needing' a leader to guide them. There is an absense of individual thought and ability to do things on our own. Which is why I find it rather patronizing (except for the above issue of misogny in Hip-Hop)!

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Rita Arens 7 pts

I'm not sure the last president had a big influence on country music, even though he thought he was a cowboy from Texas.  Maybe that's not a fair comparison, since Bush was not the first white man anything and therefore didn't have the pressure of changing the face of white America, but it seems like an awfully tall order for a President to influence pop culture.  Am I being dense? It's certainly possible.

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mochadad 5 pts

I doubt that the Obamas will have any impact on the sad state of Hip-Hop music. The misogyny is too entrenched. It will take ordinary men and women taking a stand with their voices and pocketbooks to bring about real change in Hip Hop.

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Lady Burg 5 pts

I think that the only way that the portrayl of women in hip will change is if women take charge and take a stand to create and maintain a change. I definitely have discontinued watching certain music televison programs because I just frankly got sick of seeing women that looked like me being viewed in outlandishly sexual ways. Now, there is nothing wrong with a sista being sexy and her being comfortable with her sexuality. I just feel that some women (okay, maybe a lot of women) give men too much power when it comes to our sexuality. I don't know if the Obama's are going to now be the torch carriers for the image of the positive African American male and female relationship. They are definitely a good example. However, I don't think that African Americans (or any other black nationality) should focus only on the Obamas. There are several other couples that black couples can look up to. There's Will and Jada Pickett-Smith, Angela Bassett and her husband, Denzel and his wife. I'm sure there are several others. These couples are just not thrown in the limelight as much as the Obamas currently have. Michelle Obama is absolutely a positive female representation for not only black women but for all women. But just as the scenario with the image of positive black male and female relationship so does lies within the positive image of a black woman. I sometimes feel that most focus on the negativity when it comes to portrayl of black women in the media. Just look at shows like Flava of Love, Real Chance of Love and the upcoming For the Love of Ray J. These shows always seem to show black (and a few other races) women committing degrading acts all for the attention of man who cares more about his image and the ratings of his show. It's as if one has to actually search for the positive images of black women. Besides Michelle Obama, what about Gabrielle Union, Oprah (of course), Sanae Latham, Salt n' Pepa, Queen Latifah, Debbie Allen, Phylisa Rachard, Jill Scott, and many others.? Like you I did think that the same ole' mess would one day finally end. Yet, still I see the same ole' mess. It's getting tired.