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Oprah's What Can You Live Without Challenge, Are You Game?

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Dear Oprah, I have a confession. I can do without my cell phone, and I've gone days without turning on the TV, and in order to save money, I've cut down on eating out before, but if I had to give up my Internet connection, I might need anti-anxiety drugs to make through. Even when I'm not surfing the Net or tweeting or updating my blog or Facebook page, I still use the Net to research topics for my writing.

So, I won't be fully joining your "What Can You Live Without" experiment, Part 2. However, I applaud you for tossing down this gauntlet to America to get back to basics, focus on each other, and not material goods. Sincerely, Nordette Adams, BlogHer CE.

Based on the number of people who raised their hands saying they could not give up what Oprah's recent challenge requires, I'm not alone when I say I could not give the experiment my all, and Oprah seemed to not expect many people to give up everything listed in her rules. Nevertheless, she shared a statistic that may disturb many parents.

"Each year the average American child, 14, spends 2,372 plugged into technology. ... That's on their computer, watching TV, playing video games or texting," said Oprah. "Now, if you add up all those hours, that's 3 and a half months of their lives."

I can't give up my computer because I use my computer for work, but I could do the rest of her challenge. Could you? Here are the rules as listed on her website:

For the next seven days, follow the guidelines ...

The Ground Rules

  1. Cut out all technology—no televisions, video games, cell phones, computers, MP3 players or anything else you may use on a daily basis.
  2. No eating out. Everyone must eat dinner at home as a family and brown bag it for lunch.
  3. Curb your spending! The only items you can buy are groceries, and try to buy what you need for the week for $125.
  4. Plan an inexpensive, creative family outing. You may spend a small amount of money on this if necessary.
  5. Choose one family activity that gives back to others.
  6. Mom and Dad: Plan one date night so you can connect as a couple.
  7. No working late.

The show put the challenge partly into context of our learning lessons during the recession such as appreciating the simple things and learning to enjoy life with less of what we assume brings happiness. Oprah's big on people not buying too much stuff, such as food, and how buying too much or living with clutter creates waste. Clutter often means we're hoarding items that other people can use. Last year she had a similar challenge, "Live with Less," part of which encouraged going green or doing better by the environment.

In this year's challenge, the Haynie family amused me most. The son almost burst into tears when Oprah's people took away the televisions and the video games. The teen daughter lay on the floor and later said she'd changed her mind, that it wouldn't work, and she would die, while the father came close to a nervous breakdown without his cell phone or TV.

Prior to the challenge, the family ate out regularly and even texted each other while they were all in the house. That changed during challenge week. They had to cook at home and also eat together. When it was over, nobody had died, and it seemed the Haynies were better for participating. Then the Oprah show challenged them to go another week. To the mother's chagrin and surprise, the father said, "Yes." By the  end, they learned to be grateful for each other. They also learned how to cook, and they told Oprah that they don't watch TV as much anymore.

The Ladwig family seemed more eager to try the experiment. By the end the mother, Michelle, was all about giving back. She seemed to empathize with people who are struggling financially in the country and wanted to teach her children that it's not about what things you have but about feeling happy on the inside. She's decided to keep her local food pantry for the hungry in mind whenever she does her grocery shopping.

However, in the first challenge week, she cheated when she didn't come home from work at 5:15 as promised, meaning she worked late. Her son wasn't having that at all.

Oprah reminded Michelle

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

Thank you, JoAnn. "self-discipline leads to peace" That statement is true indeed. To be more self-discliplined is one of my goals. 

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

alaJoAnn 5 pts

I down-sized a while back, and haven't had TV service in a year (although I cheat by watching some programs on Hulu) - and it's better than OK because I found a creative outlet (for me,a blog site).  For sure, not having your usual "fixes" allows unresolved issues to surface, but that kind of thing also motivates you to improve your life, to be more resilient, to seek a new personal vision.  It's really true that necessity breeds invention, and that self-discipline leads to peace.  Allow a void to manifest, and there's new space to fulfill a dream or two.

Warm regards,

àlaJoAnn

Nordette Adams 6 pts

Most people usually don't do that but write something about their like or dislike of Oprah or what she means or what gives Oprah the right to xyz.  I actually don't mind it b/c it keeps the conversation lively.

Teaching children to be happy with what they have is good. :-)  Some of us are raising wimps who get depressed over every little downside of life because they think they deserve to and must have it all. 

On "The Secret" it's a "new age" philosophy akin to positive thinking based on the laws of attraction and also related to "you reap what you sow" or karma.  It was discussed here at BlogHer a while back ( http://www.blogher.com/node/16446 ).  Some people love the philosophy, others hate it saying it blames the victim and smacks of "magic thinking."

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Nordette Adams 6 pts

The "It" factor goes back to the concept of the "It" girl ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Bow#The_It_Girl ), Clara Bow, 1927, and is applied to people who have an undefinable charisma that seems to attract others.  In other words, star quality, and the adjective is often used to explain why you can have, say, someone like Britney Spears, who while she works hard may not be as talented a singer nor as pretty as another singer who works equally hard, sometimes harder but who never seems able to attract a super-stardom fan base. Talent scouts seem to have an atenna for knowing who's got "it" and who doesn't.

On the negative side, people like Hitler and Charles Manson also have an "it" factor, an unusual magnetism.

No one denies Oprah's hard work, but it would be naive to deny she was in the right place at the right time with the right "it" for the moment. 

The "It" factor is not related to the saying "I'm not cut out for it."  It's more akin to someone realizing she or he is not photogenic because it's true. There are some attractive people don't photograph well. There are others who look ordinary in person but fantastic on camera.  So, to say someone is either photogenic or not photogenic has no bearing on whether the person works hard in front of the camera. It's something a person can't control. 

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Leighbra 5 pts

Some last points based on the comments:
What is "the Secret," please tell me, the curiosity is painful. ;)

Is an MP3 player for a kid worse than us playing our tapes/CDs at full blast when we were kids?

I
always love these challenges; Earth Hour, Turn off your TV days,
anything that lights a fire under people and maybe helps them grow a
bit is fine by me. 

Saying people have/don'thave an "it factor"
does not give full credit to their hard work, and makes an excuse for
not giving things your all ("I'm just not cut out for it...etc")

Leighbra 5 pts

I don't follow Oprah. I can count the episodes of her show that I've watched on one hand. It's not that I have any dislike for her, but I don't turn my tv on during the day.

If we do, it's to watch Popeye while we eat lunch (homeschoolers). My husband comes home, and it's like an insult that the tv has been off all day lol Immediately he'll turn it on, but then leave the room, I don't quite know what drives him to do it. 

We take pride in living without here. I think it sets a good example to my kids, and prepares them for whatever the state of things may be when they're adults.

In 2001/2002, when I was pregnant with my son, the parenting magazines were running stories on how to live on one income.

But the amount of that one income? $100,000. What?! Good lord, at the time, we could have lived for 4 years off of that, comfortably! It reminded me that we get used to what we have, to listen to moms complain about living off of *only* $100,000. Eventually, you think the world will end without a pool boy. The flip side?

We get used to what we have.

Give up the tv,  and as soon as you're out of the loop, not being fed teasers about this season's "MUST SEE tv!" you won't even have a clue what you're missing. And you won't care.

Watch what kids think of a power outage, and then ask what your family can do without! They quickly get creative, and appreciate new things.

Anywho, about the cell phone, we don't have a land line any more. Since we're so far out of town, it's a headache and money saver to be able to call each other from town, in case someone needs something (milk, bread, medicine, birthday present for a party in the AM). Add in free long distance, and it was a no brainer for us. 

BUT, I don't feel any more dependent on the cell as I did to the land line (God bless caller id).

(Nordette, like how I kept my comments about the message, and not about my personal feelings about Oprah, or her show? Just for you!) ;)

Nordette Adams 6 pts

Good points all around.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Nordette Adams 6 pts

Much of what you say makes me think of the age divide. I see people talk about what Oprah says like it's all new and fresh. For me, at 49, it's usually not news, including her spiritual explorations. Nothing new about "The Secret" or the other stuff she talks about along the same lines, it's just repackaged guru stuff. But I feel to a younger audience or people who haven't thought about certain aspects of live or read as much as others have, it's news.

I had a tendency for a while to tell people, "Oh, that's old news." And then I stopped b/c I realized I was getting older and also read more than the average person. It was old to me but new to a whole lot of others.

And so much is recycled news everywhere we look with recycled propaganda, across the board. Even the charges that Sotomayor is a reverse racist is an old argument that comes up repeatedly like it did with the Ebony Experiment and each year during Feburary. :-)

Always good to see you at BlogHer, Deborah.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

msladydeborah 5 pts

Ms Lady Deborah

The first item I dropped was my subscription to O Magazine.  That was several months ago. 

This whole challenge is not that interesting or impressive to me.  Why?  I've been there and done that over the course of my lifetime.  I liked the results of television fasting.  I do it frequently.

When I was a childr rearing parent quality time was a natural part of our experience as a family.  Now that my sons are grown with their own families-they are spending quality time with their children.

I have my own version of quality time.  I relax, read a good book, listen to music, soak in the tub, or go out and provide my brain with a stimulating experience.

I have never been a major Oprah fan.  I do not dislike her nor am I a daily viewer of her show.  It depends on who the guest is or what the topic is about.  I have an account on her website. I was blogging there until it became an outline for spiritual development and her latest interests.  Oprah's journey into the spiritual realm is hers to have.  She isn't presenting anything that I do not already have a working knowledge of inside of my life. 

Her magazine features some interesting articles.  But she also needs to back up and let her baby in print take on a different cover identity.  I got real tired of seeing just her on the cover.  A lot of the products she pushed were pricey and like many capitalist goods-nonessential.

I guess there are people in our part of the world that need this type of guidance. I am forever stepper to my own tune. 

savingqueen_com 5 pts

I can go without my TV, but I cannot give up my cell phone or should I say my life line!!! 

Maria
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LucindaA 5 pts

For some people, they need to shut it down completely before they can find the balance between using technology as a tool and using it as a crutch.  There is no doubt that many advances, such as cell phones and the Internet, have made our lives easier.  I love that my husband can call me on his way home from work (he works outdoors) and tell me how far from home he is so I can plan dinner accordingly.  I love being able to look up what "yellow ladybugs" are for my 3 year old when she asks about them or the life cycle of a fly.  That's cool.

However, it is easy to let technology isolate us.  Last year we had an exchange student living with us.  I gave him a cel phone to use and was shocked by the amount of texting he did.  He was shocked when I took the phone away because he chose to text during family dinner. You must be vigilant and constantly place limits.  My husband and I both call each other out when we spend too much time on the computer.  And we limit our television.  

Balance can be tricky, but not impossible.

ByJane 5 pts

Thanks for the pep talk.  I want to say exactly what I think AND I want everyone to like me as well.  Oy.  That must be a version of Woolf's Angel on my shoulder.

By Jane

http://midlifebloggers.com 

http://byjane.blogspot.com

Nordette Adams 6 pts

I remember when they first started edging toward what looks like commercials, stylish plugs but commercials nonetheless.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Candelaria Silva 5 pts

I have lived modestly my entire life and I veer between attachment and detachment to things and people.  I cook 90% of what I eat (and did so when my children were growing up, too), I didn't do anything but shop for food and toiletries for a few years before I bought my house to save money.

I enjoy the computer but have cut back on my time on it because it was cutting into my reading time.  I would find it difficult to give up books but haven't found it difficult to give up buying most books.  The library is my friend.

Great post.  Oprah has a financially successful show that enables her to educate and give a lot to others.  Even when she wears on me from time-to-time, I take a long break and actually return to enjoy her.  I think she is the best at what she does and I do think she does a lot of good in this world.

Actually, I remember a time before computers and know that I could give it up if I had to but right now I don't have to so I'm not gonna do it.

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

I should have posted this under "The Juice," ( http://www.blogher.com/groups/juice ) a good example of working with a sponsor to not only plug a product but also to get people thinking about how they live their lives and can live those lives better, b/c really, I think that's the whole point of this kind of experiment, to help people realize that too much of most things, especially, if used repeatedly to tune out self, introspection, the people we love, or responsibilities, is never good.

It's not saying electronic communications gadgetry and TV are bad but, as the philosophers have said for millennia, "In all things moderation."

Thank you, Megan, and you're not alone in your thinking, which is why people are writing opinion pieces about cell phone and texting manners that include don't whip out the cell phone at dinner.  I've been guilty of that before, but determined to not do it again, which is why my son didn't complain when I pointed to his being out at the dinner table. 

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Megan Smith 5 pts

I could absolutely do the challenge, but I'd have to make an exception for work or be on vacation when I did it.

Even though I write about TV, I'm a big believer in turning the thing off.  As much as I love, love, love my BlackBerry, I could give it up if I wasn't using it for work.

What I think is even more necessary than a total cutoff of technology is a laying down the law in households about no cellphones, video games or other electronic toys at the dinner table.  Also no television during meals and when you're talking to someone, really talk to someone, not to the electronic gadget in your hand.

That stuff makes me nuts and I've become quite the dictator among my friends and family about it.

That being said, I am considering doing a mini-challenge over the summer and blogging about how it works.  But not during either of the blogging conferences I'm going to!

Megan
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Nordette Adams 6 pts

By Jane, I don't know what to tell you about that b/c I've been told that I too have that spirit.  When I worked in the corporate world some of my bosses tended to confide in me but also used to ask my opinion, saying "I expect you to tell me the truth in that frank way you have." I got in a little trouble once b/c I didn't share my opinion when I thought something was off.

(Actually I decided it was best to let a white supervisor who really needed cultural sensitivity training to hang herself verbally.  She knew better than to say stupid stuff to me, but she still said dumb stuff to others, and I didn't call her on it. One day she sent out an email that almost caused a lawsuit and a director found out I knew the woman was a problem, but had kept mum.  I kept mum b/c sometimes you only hurt yourself on the job when you point out what's effed up.)

If you keep up with me in some of the political discussions on BlogHer, then you know there are folks who wish I would shut up. LOL.

But I am learning to hold back. As you can see that I did not speak long and frankly to the men who dropped by my Memorial Day article at Examiner ( http://www.examiner.com/x-10713-AfricanAmerican-Bo... ).  One man advised me that I should have included books about black men who fought for the Confederacy. If I had done that, I guarantee you he would have been pissed off at what I wrote on that topic because while I'd avoid saying my own opinion, I certainly would have pulled sources about the abuses of white slaveholders in misinforming a population that could not read.

You have someting to say, by Jane, b/c you're thinking. Thinking is good.  What I've learned is when I say what I think, I have to expect that somebody's going to pop up and disagree and how they express that disagreement may rub me the wrong way, but I need to learn the difference between people who honestly disagree and trolls. A wise woman here at BlogHer told me to not feed the trolls.  Fortunately, we don't have many of those at BlogHer, but honest women who think hard like you.

To me only the dullest person would not recognize when Oprah's selling them something and probably all the critical thinking skills training in the world would not help such a person.  I guess her pushing products doesn't bother me b/c 1.) I tune it out, and 2.) If I bothered to tune in, I deserve what I get. She doesn't need me to pump up her ratings.

Plus with product placement in TV shows, movies, and even on blogs, we're always being sold something somewhere. That a big debate of late, bloggers who push products. When we don't want to be sold something, maybe we should just pick up a book, but I'm told even novels are doing more product placement within the text. Ugh. I really hate that.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Nordette Adams 6 pts

For me, the mystery when it comes to Oprah is the same I see for other people who wield tremendous influence but came from nothing and that's "the IT factor."  If you've got "it" you've got "it" and if you don't you don't.  The It factor draws people to you.  If I could unravel "it," I'd be richer than Oprah.

What I find interesting about people's views of Oprah is that I'm starting to see more backlash from people in the general population who don't like her or trust her or who've got issues with her and like you, many of those people admit they sometimes listen to her show or read her magazine. 

When I write about a point she's made or a show she's done, inevitably I see a percentage of people not really talking about what she said or whether it's a good idea or valid point.  What they're really reflecting is how they feel about Oprah herself.I can only think of one piece I've written about Oprah that got no response.

It used to be quite a few of "the sisters" resented her, didn't trust her, or were envious and they had a lot to say about what they didn't like, but the general population either adored her or seemed indifferent. Has Oprah finally gotten to the point where most people pay attention to her at least in peripheral vision and have all kinds of criticism of her because she has so much more than everyone else and so her very existence provokes jealousies, envy, a charge of evil intent (not speaking of what you're saying here Laurie but riffing off general observations), and are negative opinions of Oprah increasing because we're in a recession when people are struggling while Oprah seems unscathed? I see people questioning what she does on principle alone, they say. Why does she provoke these feelings?

The KFC fiasco had people blogging everything from how great KFC's grilled chicken is to Oprah was wrong, as a black woman, for doing any kind of promotion with KFC since the "FC" stands for "friend chicken" and she was promoting a stereotype. :-)

I noticed her Friday show was "What social class are you?" and there was some talk about wealthy people trying to hide their wealth by wearing middle-class brands and not the shi-shi-poo-poo stuff like Prada.Oprah can't hide her wealth. Her name is synonymous now with wealth and power. 

(And I've gotta telll you, Laurie, people are fascinated with money and what it can buy. I don't write about it much now, but at my dead blog, Jersey Goddess, any post about how to marry rich or some excessively expensive product or how the rich live would blow up my blog.  Toss in Oprah's name and make that a double blow-up.)

Obviously what I'm thinking about Oprah and perceptions of Oprah is on wobbly legs because my thoughts are based on anecdotal evidence, but I started to notice a shift in 2006 when I wrote something about Oprah and people came out of nowhere spewing "I hate Oprah" stuff, yelling in all caps that people only like Oprah because she gives away cars, etc.  Wish I had the patience to write a book on Oprah b/c I got to tell you, she is the "it" that sells.

I've gone through periods of not watching Oprah at all and now I DVR her b/c I know at some point during the week she's going to talk about something that's worth a blog because love her or hate her, she seems to be tuned in to what a large segment of America wants to talk about. Never in a million years would I have thought literal "poop" would be something people wanted to discuss in public, but Oprah brought it up and people talked about poop. However, a good look at mommy blogs reveal poop has always been a hot topic. LOL.  Still haven't addressed poop on my blog though.

As for husbands and children, I think even single people have opinions about that. I hear them all the time. And Oprah, while she does not have children, does have a husband, just not a legal one, who's been with her since she was only a thousand-aire. Stedman's mother name him right.  And I think anyone can have an opinion on how to raise children because we all have at one point been a child who either liked or didn't like how we were being raised.

To me, Oprah's not as big a study in contrast as we think. Her market blew up because she told stories about herself that made people identify with her, and people who remember that see her as someone they know, not as mega-mogul. Probably these are people who don't earn their living via media or have no interest in how to build effective messages and so they aren't thinking about questions like "Why do people like Oprah" in any practical or analytical way.

But people want to feel that connection, which is why blogs that reveal more of the blogger's personality seem to do better than those that seem bleakly objective. America=Cult of Personality.

You're right on cell phones and the Net. Even Oprah can't live without a cell phone, which is why she was forced to get one a few years back and that made news because for a long time she'd declared she didn't want one ever. I understand that b/c I went through a period where people were calling me constantly and I wanted to bury my cell phone.  Imagine if you were Oprah, but she had to give in.

And no media mogul can function without the Net. So, she clearly doesn't advocate giving any of this up forever, but for us to look at our overuse.  But I don't think anyone's going to stop people from over-using electronic devices. It's the nature of the human beast to like gadgets that make life easy and to find ways to avoid introspection.

And yet there are people who've made a decision to not have cell phones or the Net and they're doing fine b/c they like it that way. Not to mention cell phones and Internet access are the province of the privileged. I shudder to think how a poor person reading this post at a library who struggles to buy groceries would react to our assertions that people can't survive without a cell phone or personal Net access.

Thank you, Laurie. Always good to hear from you, and now I must go do something very brick and mortar, visit a real bookstore, where I'm sure I'll turn my computer on again, and to people online, it will seem like I never go anywhere because I always seem to talk to them in cyberspace. :-)  

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

ByJane 5 pts

I don't object to Oprah pushing a product.  It's when the entire hour becomes an infomercial that I object.  At least when I turn on QVC, I know what I'm getting.  

 PS.  What do I have to do to lose the "fiery spirit"?   When I've questioned people, they say that I'm "honest in a way that most aren't."  Isn't that a good thing?  I mean, honesty being the best policy and all. 

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Diana 5 pts

Even PBS has commericals now. At least during the kids' programming in the morning they do. We don't have cable or satellite (have never watched enough TV to justify spending the money on it) so my four and seven year old watch the PBS cartoons sometimes and they do run commercials now. They're produced a bit differently than "traditional" commercials, but they're advertisements nonetheless.

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lauriewrites 5 pts

But then again, it's not for me...amazing that a single mogul puts so many things in husband/wife/children terms, even though that's her target market. I'm usually not hypersensitive to this but it's starting to get on my nerves. And I'm a hypocrite who reads her magazine when I can snag it at that gym, but I think it's actually kind of insulting that someone who does monthly features on ridiculously expensive inessential items (and could she function without technology? Doubt it.) would encourage people to do less with less. She is really a fascinating study in contrasts.

That said, if anyone figures out a way to live without the Internet or a cell phone (no land line here) and still function in work and life management at this point, please give me a shout because I want to know how it's done.  

Laurie

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

People don't miss as much as they think they do when they have no TV, and I did it before there was an Internet to connect to easily. :-)

If I didn't use the Net to earn a living, I could easily go a week without it. But there was a time when I would not have said that because when I was married I know I used it sometims to avoid facing I was unhappy.  I think that's really what people should look at for anything they're using a lot. Are you using it to avoid your life?

Thank you and if you ever get your TV back, you may find you don't watch it anyway. Hulu and TV stations online may be making it so we only watch TV when we want the huge screen.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Nordette Adams 6 pts

What do you think she's selling with this show? What money can she earn from telling people to tune out for a while?  Personally, I think she saved people money promoting Skype ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com/2009/05/oprah-with-sky... ). Not everyone's up on how to get out of paying long distance charges to the major corps. And the show was also entertaining.  The guy she talked to in Best Buy gave me the best laugh of my day. ;-)  

The capitalist in me could care less that she uses her show to push products. I believe in earning money. Talk show hosts who don't want to do that should move their shows to PBS.  But let's ask PBS how they feel about the difficulties of drawing in revenue.

That's the old publisher coming out in me. It sucks trying to earn bucks from advertising. It's not as easy as it looks.

I have issues at moments with Oprah, but her ability to earn money and to know how to push a product is not one of them.

Always a pleasure when you drop by with that fiery spirit of yours. :-)

PS:  Jane, Have you noticed how the posts here at BlogHer about products get more comments than post about saving the environment or social justice sometimes? There's a segment of us that loves product pushing and learning about new products. Not my thing, but apparently it is the thing of many others. Maybe it's because people are looking for solutions for their daily lives. I dunno.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Nordette Adams 6 pts

Actually, I remember a time before computers and know that I could give it up if I had to but right now I don't have to so I'm not gonna do it.

I don't have to so I'm not gonna. Works for me!

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

You sound like I would have sounded when my son was four if someone had suggeted I give up Barney back when Barney was everywhere, before Teletubbies and other monstrosities. Just told my age totally.

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ByJane 5 pts

 It's a simple one:  stop using your show as an extended commercial for all sorts of products we don't need.  Last week it was Skype. This week it was General Foods, et al.  I realize everyone has to make a buck, but, really, how hypocritical can you get?  I've turned you off forever...or at least until you stop the commercial shilling.

By Jane

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

I get the feeling that Oprah's had to be dragged to some of the social media and personal computer technologies we denizens of the Web think nothing about using nearly constantly. The most I've seen her get genuinely excited about a new technology is Skype ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com/2009/05/oprah-with-sky... ).  I think it's her producers and the societal flow that pushed for Facebook and Twitter. That's my personal inkling, I have no proof.

It seems we're all plugging into the digital consciousness.  Some people are even using Twitter during their church services ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com/2009/05/would-you-twit... ).

I think if there is one woman who could probably lecture us about the perils of being too plugged in to voices pulling you in too many different directions, it's Oprah.  Just for her, it hasn't been technology, its' been people trying to get her attention and her having to keep up with lots of stuff even when she'd rather be in bed with her puppies. Do we fault her or ignore because she's rich? She wasn't always. For part of her life she grew up in the kind of poverty to which I've never been personally exposed. She's generally more frugal than I am, getting excited about reusing stuff to save money, a common trait of people who grew up for part of their lives in poverty but later become rich.This doesn't mean she doesn't have her spending vices. Still, she's paid her dues in poverty land already.

Oprah is giving up something. If the people who watch her show regularly were to follow her advice, she'd lose a lot of viewers for at least a week. But I think she knows human nature well enough to know, folks just aren't going to do this challenge.  It's too hard for most people. Most of Her audience members were honest enough to say they wouldn't/could't do it.

And while I pointed to the computer as an example of what I couldn't give up because I use it for my livelihood, to be fair, I think the rules mean that if you use your computer for your livelihood but are on it too much, then you're no different from the people who go into the office and come home late at night, using "work" to avoid what they should be doing with their families. It's a trap people who work at home may fall into easily.  We must make time to be with our families and get off the computers.

People like you who've already cut back or who are already introspective and try to achieve balance in their lives (and like me since I've said enough is enough ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com/2009/05/is-blogger-wor... )) wouldn't need this kind of challenge.  You don't need to be challenged to do something you're already doing. But there are a helluva lot of people out there who could benefit from tuning out for a week if not longer, and I felt this way long before Oprah started this challenge ( http://bigsole.blogspot.com/2009/02/spirits-of-ipo... ).

The teens who are tuning out their own thoughts and the chance to connect with flesh and blood humans because they're tuned in almost constantly to MP3 players, cell phones, video games, and MySpace could benefit immensely from this kind of experiment, and I think their parents should encourage them to tune out electronics sometimes.  I did it for my son before Oprah suggested anything like this, and he appreciated it later.

However, he still needs reminders.  I had to point to his cell phone when we took him out to dinner to celebrate an achievement last night b/c he started texting his girlfriend.

For people who want to do it, I think like most hard things, it works better when the whole famiy tries it together b/c teens and younger children hate hypocrites or parents who want them to "do as I say not as I do."

Thank you for taking the time to comment. I still chuckle everytime I see the name of your blog, "Cruncy Carpets." :-)

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mysailorsmistress 5 pts

I can not do this!!! NO WAY!!

My son still naps Noggin keeps the 4 year old quiet. My husband is in the Navy and when his email is up that is our communication tool for those days he is gone. I have to say the email and internet is what has saved us from being a military statistic.

Also, I live in Southern California. It gets 100 degrees here during the summer there is NO way that we are able to go out and play all days in those temps. 

I think not!!!!

Plus the net is where I get half my ideas on what to do with the kids and what to make for them!!! :o)

Jennifer

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Crunchy Carpets 5 pts

I think it is fine if people need tv people to 'help' them...and yes we are a total consumerist self grataification society...but I won't be taking her challenge.

We use the internet for our livelihood.we aint cancelling that..but we have cut back on so much...

yuck 

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AmberS 5 pts

I gave up my TV in November, when it died. We decided to see how long we could last, and it's been over 6 months. That's fine. And I could handle the other points of Oprah's challenge as well. But, like you, the idea of giving up my computer and internet leaves me cold. It's so not happening. I'm an at-home mom right now, and it's my lifeline.

But I admire the intent behind the challenge all the same. And I would say, based on my own experience giving up TV, that sometimes it's easier than you'd think.

~ Amber

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