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Parents Gone Wild? When Do You Start Covering Up in Front of Your Kids?

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My daughter will be five this spring.  She's no longer our baby.  My husband and I stumbled onto the topic of bodies and nudity and our daughter and nudity after a recent and random diaper rash incident, and he mentioned to me that maybe it's time I took over in the nekkid category.  It got me to thinking:  When do you stop with the family nudity?

As I've said before, the Arens household is full of nudity boundaries.  We don't leave the bathroom door open. We don't make dinner naked.  I even try to hide doing things like plucking my eyebrows from my husband.  I like the air of mystery.  However, when I was growing up, we weren't allowed to even wear a long t-shirt without shorts or something around the house if my father was present, and I hated it. My mother acted like the house would burst into flames if I accidentally walked in on my dad in his underwear. We weren't exactly earthy.

That said, I'm not sure where to set the permanent boundaries in my new little family.  My husband has made it clear that he doesn't want my daughter in the room when he's nude.  We don't have any boys, and I don't have any problems with my daughter seeing me other than wishing she wouldn't comment so loudly and honestly on my various body parts.  I get that physical privacy between opposite-sex family members is necessary as time goes on, but do we need it already?  

(Editor's Note: If you want to feel like a total pervert, try researching this post on Google.  There is no good way to look for "nudity" and "children" without getting traced by the FBI, which probably has a lock on my Mac right now.)

Dr. Cara Natterson writes at MomLogic:

If your child simply doesn't notice or doesn't care, then I recommend imposing a little more modesty once your child starts to develop. This occurs in the tween years. But nudity should not be demonized--rather modesty should be encouraged.

Jennifer Jordan at ParentDish says:

When the time comes--and who knows when that will be--I'm not about to dance around naked in front of my kids. I guess if they happen to see me that way I won't run screaming but I also am not going to go out of my way to let them see me that way.

Most bloggers writing on this subject seem to endorse this form of moderation. The best perspective I found on parental nudity actually came from a guy -- Victor Rodrigues at GreatDad.com:

  • Be genuine. Don't force yourself into being comfortable with parental nudity. If you are starting to feel awkward about exposure to your nudity, it is likely time to be more discreet.
  • Be consistent. Don't juggle between being bashful about your nudity at times and unmindful at other times.
  • Explain the difference in attitudes. If your child brings up the fact that his friends parents are never seen naked, be ready with a well thought out explanation.
  • Be attentive to cues. There will come a time (age 2 or even much older, like 7 or 8) when your kids will no longer feel comfortable with your nudity or their own in front of you. (Hint: watch for giggles or silly smiles). Respond to this and act accordingly.
  • Consider your own privacy. You may not wish your private parts to be part of a discussion between your son and his peers.

What do you think? When do you start covering up, if you haven't already?

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chelsea510 5 pts

I don't have kids but want to share my parenting philosophy. I live a naked lifestyle and will until I die. I said the following in another post. I will raise my children in a nude environment. If they have questions I will answer them truthfully. If they ever feel uncomfortable being naked then they don't have to be. Also, if I marry a guy I will nave no problems with him being nude in front of our children. However, I will always ensure that the environment is not a sex charged one. What I mean by that is that if there are erections and are not innocent ones then I will say something.

roonag 5 pts

I grew up an only child raised by two loving and responsible parents who were not ashamed of their occasional nakedness around me. I did not like to shower alone, and until as late as age 8 or 9 I would share showers with either my mother or father. My parents were not "nudists" and their nudity around me was confined to the shower and changing only.

I'm sure most people would not take second thought to a girl who showers with her mom, but there are those who might read this and think that a girl showering with her dad might be a little creepy. Well, from experience I can state that as long as all parties are comfortable, it is a perfectly natural and wholesome experience. In no way did my father ever act in a sexual or abusive way.

Admittedly, when a young girls stands at eye level with a grown man's genitals, some curiosity will ensue. Usually, my father would not take notice of the fact that we were naked together. Sometimes I would ask questions like "Why don't girls have a penis?" or "what are your balls for?" My father was very matter of fact in his responses. I never felt embarrassed or ashamed, but rather very comforted. I enjoyed being nude with either of my parents without feelings of over stimulation. There was never any touching or other contact.

By adolescence, my desire for privacy increased. Nudity amongst the three of us became less frequent. I am glad that my parents were comfortable. I feel that I can have a view of the human body as beautiful without being overtly sexual.

cadsuanne 5 pts

I am the proud mother of a beautiful, too-smart baby girl that recently turned 2 years old.  My husband and I have had diferent views of nakedness before our daughter was born, but now we seem to see eye to eye.

Let me preface this with a side note.....as a child I was sexually assaulted and my view of makedness and sex was forever changed in a negative way.  It has taken most of my life to ba able to overcome those scars and lead a happy, productive life.  When dealing with being naked around my daughter, I thought I would insist that my husband cover himself most of the time due to my personal demons. That said....

Both my husband and I run around the house naked most of the time.  We have even cooked dinner naked.  We both bathe with our daughter, cuddle with our daughter, and sleep with our daughter......all mostly naked.  My husband is a very open and free thinking person.  Even before our child was born he would spend a lot of his time at home naked, although I would wear undies.  Since we have been married I have slowly become more and more open with my nakedness, and less ashamed.  When I found out I was pregnant I decided that I didn't want my child to be embarassed about being naked, so we decided to be naked until the child showed a desire for privacy.

I will admit that because of my issues from childhood I sometimes have flashes of "should my husband put clothes back on yet?"  Or I wonder at what age my daught should stop seeing us naked or partially dressed.  I found this article will searching for informaiotn regarding this topic.  I have decided, since reading many of the posts here, that we will continue as we are untilwe get the clues from her (and any other children we decide to have) that privacy is needed.

The ONLY place that I wish I had more privacy now, and will insist upon getting in the future, is in the bathroom - when I'musing it...lol  I have a "potty phobia" that causes me to want to see, hear, or know what someone is doing in there...lol  There's no shame in it (the being naked part) I just think its gross!!...lol

I hope that my daughter grows up with a healthy view of her body, and not the distorted unatainable view that much of society pushes on our young girls these days.  I'm a bigger woman and I hope that her seeing me ok with my body will help her to be ok with hers, whatever it may look like as she grows up.

 Thank you all for your great stories nad advice..:):)  IT was all very helpfui...:):)

kandi 5 pts

 I don’t have small children my oldest daughter is 23 years old, then my 4 sons range in age from 19-11, then there is my youngest daughter who is 10. My girls are the bookends on either side of the boys.

 Now that I have the whole family listed. You can see We have teens and pre-teens. They would never bother their dad while in the restroom. In fact, My 11 year old son accidentally walked in on his dad like 4 months ago and I thought he was going to faint…..lol He was so embarrassed , turned red and just keep saying, “OH MY GOD I CAN’T BELIEVE I SAW DAD’S BUTT!”……All I could think of was OMG what if he had saw the front…..lol

 However with me they will knock and say, “ mom I need to tell you something right now, it’s important! Let me come in, I will close my eyes, mom”. I shout, “I’m bathing!“ They will say, “ it’s ok I’m not looking or I need to grab a towel or T.P.” They are teenagers, but it seems like what they need can’t wait! I feel uncomfortable with the boys, though I cover up quickly. It seems when they have to get something or tell me something it’s a must at that moment and can’t wait. I have talked to them and said, “ Sons you are almost grown now and mom needs some privacy when bathing, using the restroom or getting dress.” They just seem to act like I’m making a big deal about it.

 As for my two daughters I don’t mind them coming in. I guess because they are girls like me. They don’t care if I walk in on them either.

 Maybe I’m making a big deal about the boys. My husband just wants me to stop screaming when I’m walked in on….lol But I can’t help it. I get startled and my natural response is to scream…..lol I know some of you are saying Well lock the door. Well my bedroom has a lock, but the master bath does not. I might have to put it on my honey do list….lol

 I think when kids need their mom, it does not matter whether she is dressed or not. As for their dad they would never walk in on him to ask, “Did you buy cheese?” or “What channel does (Meet the Browns) come on?” Or “What‘s for dinner?” Well, I’m a mom first and far most….nude or not….lol  One day we will all look back and miss all these silly and crazy times.

Thanks for your great blog and everyones super comments. I have enjoyed reading them.

Thanks and God bless you all, Kandi

Jory Des Jardins 5 pts

And I don't even have kids!

I feel compelled to comment, however, because my husband and I had very different backgrounds growing up, and we both know the chasm in opinion could have an effect on our offspring. He likes to call my perspective "Midwestern." I don't remember exactly how old I was before it wasn't convenient anymore for Mom to just plop me in the bathtub with her (when you think about it, it's actually much easier to get kids clean that way) or when I was no longer allowed to go into the bathroom when Dad was in the shower, but at some point the walls came down.

The last time I saw my siblings (other than my twin sis) naked was, oh, maybe when I was seven. I noticed my older sister getting these mini-boobs and felt maybe I wasn't supposed to witness her trajectory into double D's. My "baby" 32-year-old brother, now over 6 feet tall and 250 pounds, is still this hairless little thing that we used to fight each other for the privilege of helping him take a bath. I couldn't handle seeing him differently. 

At some point my Dad got all weird about things. Everyone female and over 12 had to wear a bra. No free-bouncing or nipping out. He didn't say that, exactly. He would just look at you with this look of disdain and say, "Hey, how about putting on some proper clothes." I thought is was a Roman Catholic thing.

My husband, on the other hand, was born and raised near the beach. In pictures I've seen of him as a toddler he's always naked, like the Coppertone kid but with no tan lines. Free, like a little Tarzan. And in his opinion, as he was meant to be. 

I'm so heartened to read these comments from perfectly normal people who don't want to cook dinner naked (I exaggerate here, my husband wouldn't want me to be exposed to splattering oil), or be naked all the time. He thinks it's because I'm repressed. I think it's because I'm cold. And I just don't want to be naked all the time. And yeah, I grew up in an environment that might have been less comfortable with sexuality, but I think that most households are, and we have varying degrees of expressing ourselves, so if I don't want to nip out when I go to work, so freaking be it.

Rita, you get the gold star for giving me a topic to riff off of on Pause. I'll be ripping off some of this comment because I see I've practically written a post here.

-J

Jory Des Jardins
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LucindaA 5 pts

My daughter, now 7, started wanting privacy in the bathroom around 5. She doesn't want to dress in front of friends but still doesn't care about family (including her almost 6 year old brother). My son has no issues at all about modesty and still parades around naked like it's funny. But only in front of family.

By 3 we made it clear that my little nudists needed at least pants when company was here. By 5 they needed to be fully dressed when we had company.

They still walk in on me in the bathroom, and I protest and make it clear that I want some level of privacy. But I don't care if they see me naked, and they don't seem to care either.

I figure at some point, they will want privacy, will let me know, and I will respect that. But seriously, it's just a body. No need to make a big deal about it.

nkdolin 5 pts

My daughter will also be five this spring.  For the time being we do not hide nudity in our home.  As a matter of fact, I generally shower with both kids (my son will be two this spring) each night but sometimes my husband does it.  Considering she has a younger brother, my daughter sees his body parts all the time and will for a long time to come.  We do talk about private parts and who can touch them.  She definitely knows what is appropriate for home and what is appropriate in public.  She's just a naked kind of girl.  We have to force her to put on clothes when we have guests over.  It's natural and normal at this age.  I'm sure in a few short years she will be much more private.  I suspect we will follow her lead.

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Tracy Evans 5 pts

My husband puts our 27-month-old in the shower with him every other day. It's a huge timesaver for both of us. This way she's clean and ready to go to preschool. I don't have to get up as early as him so that's why he's gets her ready.

But now that she's a bit older I have been wondering if we should have her take a bath at night instead with one of us watching over her. That way she still gets clean but she doesn't see daddy's privates.  

It's a tough call. Showertime has been a great bonding experience for both of them.

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kandi 5 pts

   What's that?.... was my 2 year old daughter's shocked response, when she walked in on her dad getting out of the shower. We had never really thought of how to handle this type of situation, being young parents. Well its been 21 years since that day. Since then we have had 5 more children. Total of  2 girls and 4 boys. After the first event with my oldest daughter, we just thought it would be best to be modest at an early age. This way it is no big change at a later age for the kids. No thought of shame or embarassment. So from that point on we just locked doors while changing or showering or using the bathroom. The kids really didn't think much of it since they were raised like that. As for the age of the children, when I stop walking in on them, it was around 6 for the boys and about 9 for the girls. The kids will kind of let you know when the time is right. We evenually had a girls restroom and boys restroom in our home. That solved a lot of problems. I guess each family has their way of addressing this issue.

                                    Kandi in Tx.

jaycee 5 pts

My son is 7 and a half and he's a booby boy I think. He's fascinated! I don't want to be all prudish in front of him but I'm pretty much at that stage where I think I need to be a bit more careful about my nudity in front of him.

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nuttyhaddock 5 pts

being Mum to 4 kids (3 boys, 1 girl) I have to say that reactions are not necessarily related to gender but purely personal.

My eldest son was so comfortable with his and our nudity and would spend his summers wandering naked on the beach,until the age of seven when he suddenly started wanting privacy...He is now 15yrs 6ft tall and although not bothered by my topless swimming he wouldn't be comfortable with my full nudity, but he is totally ok with his father being naked.

son no.2 11 yrs is wanting his privacy also and is not comfortable with me being naked. He is extremely physically precocious and has become interested in his changing body but not in a shameful 'must hide away' sense but rather wanting his privacy respected.  my youngest son 10yrs and daughter 9yrs are not really bothered either way although my daughter gets a bit bossy with papa if he gets up naked in the morning to make me a cup of tea!

I think that really it is a question of deciding what you are all comfortable with and respecting each others privacy. Also, when they start to become more aware of their physical selves and are pre-pubescent then they naturally develop the need for their own, and by extension your physical privacy.

bereccah 5 pts

That is a great subject.  We had been told by our pediatrician that opposite sex parental nudity should stop at age four but four came and went for the most part.  My husband and I both felt that like most things, the bigger deal you make about something, the bigger deal it is, so we didn't want to make it a huge deal.  We try to have modesty without the element of shame and that seems to work mostly.  Now if I could only convince my daughter to stop streaking...

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angelfehr 5 pts

I've been wondering this myself - my girls, aged 4 & 5 are in swimming lessons and in the family change room, we change together, along with my 2 year old son.  None of them comment on my body but I see them watching...I'm not too worried about my son at this point - I have to keep him with me in the change room so he doesn't take off.  

 I've decided that an open matter-of-factness is the best way to address things - I can be honest and open about my body and my children's bodies while still teaching them that some things are for private and not to be on display.  It's not really a big issue unless we act like it is. And definitely to respect their comfort level - if and when they get to the age where they don't want to be unclothed in front of me or siblings, to accept that and honour it.

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lindsaysmail 5 pts

Great topic, and a hard one to answer!

I am a teacher and I had a hilarious and haggarding experience once that touched on this subject.  My students (ages 4-5) were drawing family pictures.  One particular little girl was drawing her family, a mom, dad, herself, and a younger sister.  Well, it was immediately evident that this family had not discussed public/private parts because when she drew her daddy, she drew his parts big enough for the entire class to see.  And question!

I never did hear a report back once the artwork went home.  I wonder if that picture made the refrigerator or not.

:), 

Lindsay

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heathernoah 5 pts

My husband and I have also wondered where to draw the boundaries when it comes to nudity.  Up until recently we had none, but the decision was more or less made for us when my daughter called out to my husband one morning, "Daddy, you have to put some pants on!" 

We figure if she's telling him to cover up, it's probably time to cover up.

Heather Noah
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jennifer415 5 pts

Great topic.  Growing up my mother had no boundaries when it came to nudity and I hated that.  I was, and still am, a very private person and I was very embarassed and offended when she would not respect my need for privacy because we were "family" and she was "my mother who gave birth to you!". 

 I have a 9 month old daughter now and I hope I can be as attentive to her individual needs and respect whatever privacy or openness she desires.  Every person is different and everyone deserves to be respected, no matter the age or position in the family.

 And the only person in the delivery room 9 months ago was my husband.  Be it 7 or 27 I didn't need my mother peeking at my underwear let alone my hoo hoo. :)

babybeatnik 5 pts

When my daughter was about 6 months old, my husband and I took some parenting classes. This issue was brought up during a number of our sessions by other parents. The teacher had a very strong stance on the subject - once the child hits the age of 2, it's done. You had better not let your kid catch you naked, or you're gonna get some lashings. (Or something as outlandishly painful, and honestly inappropriate.)

Gracie is turning 4 next week. Both my husband and I still change in front of her. She doesn't seem to mind. I'm kind of starting to feel that my husband should be a little bit more private, but I don't feel like it's gotten to an inappropriate stage yet. I think that modesty around the opposite sex is something that we will slowly integrate, so she learns the lesson of it but doesn't feel like all of a sudden her Daddy is ashamed to be around her at certain points of the day. (If that makes any sense... ?)

Growing up, my mother wasn't modest around me. I never got embarrassed by her changing in front of me, as I'm sure that she never did either. And unless one of my daughters says something about it to me (or it becomes apparent through behavior) I will likely be the same as my mom. It never harmed either of us, and I feel like it might have perhaps prepared me for my mom being there when my first daughter was born. Had I been the slightest bit more modest than I was, I would have had to kick her out of the delivery room. So, it's actually kind of been benefitial, I guess.