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[Editor's Note: Pat Robertson's views on Alzheimer's and marriage vows came as a bit of a surprise to some people. Debutopia's perspective differs from that of Pat Robertson's.


Read her post, watch the video and tell us what you think. - Denise]

The women in my family are not fair-weather friends. My dad died of stroke complications after my mom cared for him for four very long years. She was teaching full time and caring for him during every evening, weekend, and summer break. The word "break" doesn't really describe it, either. It was hard work but she loved him and she did it. She never bailed. My father-in-law died after a painful encounter with multiple myeloma that lasted entirely too long. My mother-in-law stood by his side through those times because she loved him and she did what needed to be done. She never bailed. Pat, pat, pat. That's what they did. Those women patted their dying husbands' hands because they stuck around and they were there to do it.

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BarnMaven 5 pts

Having lived through family members and in-laws with Alzheimers, I think it is a very complicated issue. No black and white.

I've seen couples stay together through the ravages of this horrible disease, and its not been easy. For some, the love and a sense of humor and acceptance has made it tolerable. For others its been a living hell.

Imagine having a spouse with early onset Alzheimers. You're...say...in your 50's. Your spouse is 50 and has every chance of living another 20 years - but not remembering who you or your children are or being able to live at home with you or have any sort of relationship with you that resembles a marriage. Perhaps your spouse even becomes agitated or physically violent when you visit (I've seen it happen).

Would you, if you were the ill spouse, want to relegate someone you love to never having any physical affection or love from someone else for twenty years? If you were alive and didn't even know who they were?

I wouldn't.

If my mind is gone, I'm not me. My partner is free to find someone new, divorce me, remarry, find happiness. Or not. Its his choice. I would never wish for him to be forced into a life where he was alone. He is a wonderful man who deserves to be loved and happy. If I don't even know who he is, it would be wrong of me to expect him to become a monk just to honor something that no longer really exists between us. A relationship happens when two people are present within it.

Alzheimer's is a terrible disease. It robs people of dignity, autonomy, love. To see someone suffer from Alzheimer's is horrible. To watch the family members of someone with Alzheimer's is worse.

In my opinion, if a spouse has Alzheimers, the right thing to do is to make sure they are safe, cared for, and that you spend time with them - as long as it doesn't agitate them or degrade their quality of life -- but also to be present for yourself and your other family members. Life is complicated. I don't think there is a set of black and white rules when it comes to things like this.

carrien 5 pts

I'm not so sure he means what everyone is taking it to mean. First he says that it's a hard situation, then he says that IF he were to take up with another woman he should at least divorce his current wife and provide for her care first rather than just cheat on her. It seemed more nuanced at first. Then of course he tries to defend what he just said by the sort of death thing.

I dunno, I'm not a Pat Robertson fan by any stretch but it seems that he's an old guy trying to recognize the difficulty of this situation and trying on a more realistic, rather than dogmatic, answer for a change.

But then, I'm admittedly naive in the way I usually first interpret a situation in a way that puts someone in the best possible light and hold onto that one until proven otherwise.

HomeRearedChef 66 pts

I am stunned to hear those words come out of Pat Robertson's mouth. As a Christian believer we are supposed to take our marriage vows to the end, "for better or for worse...in sickness and in health." This isn't a case of infidelity, this is a case of someone being sick. And they do have lucid moments. I am not passing judgement here, I am simply voicing my opinion. It just seems so wrong to abandon your partner, someone you claim to love, at the worst time of their lives. (Sigh!)

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Zulmara Maria Teixeira de Lima
Zulmara Maria Teixeira de Lima

Really?? People for the American way and this is what they give us? IT IS ALL ABOUT ME!! no wonder we are going to he** in a handbasket...just two words for Pat and his right wing Christian buddies who sponsored this...Nancy Reagan...

Denise Sebesta Lanier
Denise Sebesta Lanier

I took care of my mother when she had Alzheimer's. Walking away from her - or anyone in that state - is akin to walking away from a young child. Would you abandon your sick & dying child simply because she was no long able to recognize you due to the ravages of disease?

Denise Sebesta Lanier
Denise Sebesta Lanier

Love, generosity, compassion - these aren't about recognition. And being bound by your word, through sacred vows - that's not about the binding, it's about integrity, honor, devotion - not only to the other, but to yourself, to the choice you made with free will, full mind & heart.

Nickie Cleveland
Nickie Cleveland

I could never judge or presume to know how it feels, how THAT particular person feels. Either you can do it or not.
I'd rather someone walk away and leave the afflicted person in someone else capable hands than to resent & abuse them. Or go crazy one day & kill them both.

I just cannot and will not judge another, no matter how cowardly or heartless the act seems.

Esther Kraig
Esther Kraig

@ Pamela and Janece - yes, the person with Alzheimer's is going to deteriorate and then die. And yes, SOMETIMES that means they won't recognize their spouse at the end. (I know some people who say the ONE person that gma or gpa still recognized was the spouse.) And YES, the caregiver NEEDS and DESERVES respite. But going out to get some relief while someone else takes care of the sick person is a WHOLE other ball game than actually abandoning them. And that's what divorce DOES - it lets them ABANDON their spouse.
THAT is WRONG. If the caregiving spouse should actually meet someone before the dying spouse dies, then the new person should be a decent enough human being to let it be simple friendship until AFTER the dying spouse dies. If you can't wait 10 years for him/her, how in love ARE you, really? And if it's just about the sex, why bother with the divorce?

Nancy Wooden Fowler
Nancy Wooden Fowler

I have finally realized you have to stand in someone else's shoes to know how you would deal with a particular situation. Have not stood in those shoes yet--pray I would rise to the occasion.

Daddy Mojo
Daddy Mojo

Nope.

Beth Mahoney Nelson
Beth Mahoney Nelson

Many of the downs that occur in a typical marriage could be defined as a sort of " death". Financial struggles can cause death of spirit; medications and illness can cause death of sexuality; etc. There are no easy outs when you vow to stay with someone through sickness. How meaningful would vows be that can be considered invalid when things get hard? If you think about it standard marriage vows are asking nothing more than "will you put aside selfishness for the needs of this other person?"

Chris Olson
Chris Olson

So very bad! He and Newt should start a couples therapy group...

Pamela Fatone
Pamela Fatone

AS a person who has a parent with Alzheiners and see what is coming. when my Mom is no longer "here" and zoned out 24/7 I might feel okay if my dad goes out, you have NO idea what strain he is under 24/7 with taking care of my mom. I was initially Angry with PR, but in context his comment is not so harsh, not really.

Janece Herrington
Janece Herrington

Let's say that someone else besides Pat Robertson said this. Let's say that a spouse is in the final stages of this dreadful disease, no longer recognizes their mate, and there's (obviously) no hope for a cure. Let's say that the care-giving spouse has hung in there for years and years through their spouses deteriorating process - which is HELL on earth. Yet the care giver is still healthy and full of life.

I think I would show COMPASSION to the mate contemplating divorce if - in the process - they were still providing for the physical care of the person who no longer recognized them. I wouldn't be so quick to pass judgement on them, if they - after years of dealing with this kind of pain and - in a very real sense DEATH (even before the one with the disease actually dies).

If the tables were turned, and I was the spouse with the disease, I would want my husband to go on with his life. I know he would take care of my physical needs (paying for me to be in hospice care of whatever). Why SHOULDN'T he be loved and get the support HE needed, after the one he loves - ME - no longer recognized him or had any memories of him???

Audra Cortelyou Barrick
Audra Cortelyou Barrick

Well, sadly, there is nobody on earth who is not a hypocrite in some way. None of us will be perfect this side of heaven. Now, if we follow Pat's way of thinking, then we are on a very slippery slope. If Alzheimers is a type of death, then what about everything else? Cancer? Paralysis (oh, wait, the courts already decided we can deny food to a person paralyzed and mentally not 100% until they die...)? Following the Word of God is not always easy. I've seen 4 people in my family struggle with Alzheimers disease. It's really hard. Cancer is hard. Strokes are hard. There's no easy way out.

Sorry, Pat, can't agree with you. For those who have been placed in a role of teaching and authority in the church, God has set a higher standard. Keep that in mind when creating your own version of scriptures.

Kat Zvodar Graham
Kat Zvodar Graham

No! He clearly does not read the Bible or is a true follower of Christ. If he WASNT a hypocrite, he would know that Christ himself said the only reason for divorce is adultery. Read the bible you claim to follow, Pat. This infuriates me!!!

Betty Brown-Spencer
Betty Brown-Spencer

I can't believe someone would be so selfish to encourage that. My father died one year ago from alzheimers and my mother struggled through every minute of it. He was 65 when he died, and two days short of their 43rd wedding anniversary. The harsh reality is, the person with alzheimers is going to die. Why not wait for that to move on?

Lisa Brandel
Lisa Brandel

No! And if he actually read the book he purports to represent he would not have said such a douche bag thing. He is an embarrassment to humanity.

Gina Citelli-moser
Gina Citelli-moser

No! Marriage is a vow taken in sickness and health til death do us part before GOD or whatever spiritual beliefs. This guy is a clear example of hypocritical ignorance that exemplifies organized religion to be a man made set of rules.

Natalie Anderson
Natalie Anderson

Does anyone agree with Pat Robertson about anything?