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What Would You Do?: Guess Whose Name Was Left Out of a Politico Article

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Okay - so - you know - I don't want to whine. I don't want to claw. I don't want to - oh hell, you know what? I'm pissy. I'm just very very pissy because Politico, which I really do read and really do get news from, had a reporter write a story about political bloggers who run for office (see, here it is - More Bloggers Throw Hat in the Ring.) The reporter got to me by THREE different routes: Alan Rosenblatt emailed me to include me in on a conversation when he first got contacted, then the reporter contacted me directly and then BlogHer got a shout out from the reporter and they asked me if I would like to speak with him (by which time I'd already set up a phone call with the writer).

And we talked for over an hour. And I told him to check with Technorati, which it didn't sound like he was going to do or hadn't thought of yet, because that would put into metrics and context just how many political bloggers there even are, let alone those that run for office that we can find/trace/hear about (given how hyper-local both blogging and running for office can be).

Then at this little gathering of 2400 bloggers, called BlogHer10, you know, I do this thing called an Inspirational Call to Action speech for 50-60 female bloggers who are interested in running for office or helping others run for office or advancing their causes through the political process and you know, I feel, like Denise encourages us to, kinda powerful - like I'm going to make a difference, just from my blogging - and, you know, running for office, all by my lonesome (with some serious BlogHer mojo behind me of course).

Then I follow up and get a nice note that the article will post this week, and I'm not going to be in it but my info was very helpful (of course it was - why else do you stay on the phone with me for an hour?).

And then I read it. And you know what? My heart sank - it sank. Because it mentions my city - but not me.

Pepper Pike is 11 characters or spaces. Jill Miller Zimon is 17 characters or spaces. The reporter says it was a space issue.

Now, most of you who know me one way or another know, I'm just not huge into attention grabbing. I like to - no, LOVE to - push out information, share information, butt in when I've got resources to share. But taking credit just isn't high on my list. My city council colleagues know it, other writers know it, and bloggers know it. I just rarely fight over attribution kind of stuff - not even traffic - I have no ads (I'm lucky). Even at BlogHer10, where the Don't Get Mad, Get Elected slogan (which dates back WAY before me or even the White House Project) got used to fantastic effect, I was feeling a bit, "But hey! I used it first!" just because I'd used it in my speech, but duh - of course I KNEW its real power: it's a rallying cry - who said it is completely irrelevant and its origin fades in comparison to all else accomplished in its wake.

So this Politico thing? Well, to me, a poltical blogger who is constantly chronicling the coverage of women in politics, which is contained to a novelty piece once a week or once a month, it just seemed to me to super-highlight the guys, making mention of just two women - one with an anecdote and one by name. And the reporter, who is not a real twitterer yet, then tweeted a few additional names, including one from Ohio, and STILL doesn't mention my name.

Some sisters - you know who you are, started to make a bit of noise.

So - you all tell me - we women, we are so damn used to this kind of slight. Totally could be editing, totally could be story slant, totally could be more or less. But seriously - it bugged me.

Would it bug you? And what would you do about it? I mean - it is Politico, after all, and Judd Legum and Eric Erikson have big enough platforms

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women-make-news 5 pts

Amy-Willard Cross

Women Make News. Com

I read this days ago and wanted to comment...this DOES happen all the time when reporting stories of course.  Sadly, and reporters just obfuscate about how much they'll be using for background. 

What's really important here, I think,is that your story is considered less valuable than others--because in the typical way that the women's angle is often not seen.  I imagine this blogging to running is EVEN more important than the reporting/columnist to poliitician, as bloggins allows more outsiders to start to participate....

Jill Miller Zimon 5 pts

Hmm - that is good. Fight speech with more speech. Hmm - I really should think about that. Do you mean as in, for them to publish? I haven't published more than two or three posts ever at Kos and maybe two or three comments, in five years? I am not a big box blog person at all.

Very intriguing suggestion though, Karen - thank you! I will keep you posted!

Jill Writes Like She Talks ( http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com )

In The Arena: Jill Miller Zimon, Pepper Pike City Council Member ( http://jillmillerzimon.blogspot.com )

kbojar 5 pts

Jill, you have every right to be angry.

Why not send a post to Politico based on your comments here. If they don’t post it, cross- post at Daily Kos. The people who read Politico also read Kos so you’ll get your message out to Politico readership.

Karen Bojar

http://www.the-next-stage.com/

Jill Miller Zimon 5 pts

That is a great question - I don't know, I mean, if I were to say no, what would that accomplish? Do you think that that would/could have a positive effect? I should be/should have been treated as a very seasoned political blogger and candidate for office and now elected person who evangelizes specifically about getting others to run, and other bloggers to run. But they did not treat me that way. What could I have done differently, if anything?

Not sure - not sure - open to ideas.

There's no question about Politico's reputation as you reference. I read it more often because others reference it, but not entirely - depends on the story. I noticed from before they even started a couple of years ago how few non-traditional journalists they'd have and how few women and that the one woman I remember being frontpaged from the start was for the gossip kind of column.

Sigh.

Well - the author is a 22 or 23 year old Yale grad who wrote for that school's paper I think. I really hope he develops some backbone and sees that esp. within his generation, there will be more women and more people of color in politics and he should be making sure, with his editors, that they get represented in the writing that's published.

Hmm - would I be a source again? Funny thing is? I WAS one of their ORIGINAL sources - since I wrote the Moderate Voice post back in 2009 that first explored the topic of political bloggers running for office. :)

I don't know - what would you tell me to do?

And I swear - you better not have been at BlogHer and I missed you - you were not there, right??

Jill Writes Like She Talks ( http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com )

In The Arena: Jill Miller Zimon, Pepper Pike City Council Member ( http://jillmillerzimon.blogspot.com )

Jill Miller Zimon 5 pts

Over the years, I've found entire mirrors of my Writes Like She Talks blog. I would take prelim steps to stop it but often gave up since I do not seek to derive profit directly from the blog itself, and it was so tedious and prevalent. On the other hand, it does seem easier to deal with such ripoffs when I don't really know about them. This was definitely more personal and as Nordette hints at below, you know - I kind of allowed it - I mean, I don't know that I wouldn't give them info if they didn't mention my name, that's not really me. On the other hand, as you can see, Nordette ends with an EXCELLENT question: will I talk to them in the future? The sad thing is, who the heck are they even reaching out to in the world of political bloggers who are women? Or people of color for that matter?

That's really the point: politics reflects all 320 million of us and political coverage should as well. Politico failed big time on this one.

Jill Writes Like She Talks ( http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com )

In The Arena: Jill Miller Zimon, Pepper Pike City Council Member ( http://jillmillerzimon.blogspot.com )

Nordette Adams 6 pts

But I feel that if I wrote a post telling how mad I was people would say, "Nordette is such a prima donna." However, I was raised being told it's important to get what pisses you off off your chest, and it would be hard for me to ignore this kind of slight. Knowing when to let crap go and when to stand up and say I refuse to take the crap is a hard call.

I'm glad you have the self-confidence and guts to tell 'em it sucks to do this to someone. Way too often women are expected to roll over and take it even by other women under the banner of "Be nice. Be quiet."

Jill, Politico is the same website that continued to give Andrew Breitbart blow jobs after the Shirley Sherrod fiasco. Consider yourself better off not in its company.

Nevertheless, I wish you knew why the reporter or editor made this editorial decision. Whether you said anything quotable or not, it strikes me as bad manners to not find a way to acknowledge you in the article after you gave so much help.

Here's a question for you: will you be a source for them again?

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

kyooty 5 pts

USED! you were totally used. :(

Jill Miller Zimon 5 pts

Thanks for pointing out the other levels at which the coverage is a problem: from a modeling/parenting perspective. I had not even thought of that, and I also had not thought about the if the shoe was on the other foot perspective - and yes, you are so right. Just consider how AP has treated bloggers, but of course there are many other cases where attribution is a huge issue to the big players in both the online and print worlds.

The thing about space is particularly eye-roll worthy since we're talking about cyber-space where you have pretty much all the space you need. If Politico was worried about making sure the article didn't go beyond two pages on the internet, maybe they should 1) get a tool that let's people look at the article in a single page, like the NYT and others do or 2) how about reducing the size of the photos of Judd Legum and Eric Erickson, photos which show up at the top of the first AND second page.

Ugh. OK - I'm all upset again. ;)

Seriously though - thanks for commenting.

Jill Writes Like She Talks ( http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com )

In The Arena: Jill Miller Zimon, Pepper Pike City Council Member ( http://jillmillerzimon.blogspot.com )

MinnesotaJo 5 pts

I freak out when someone uses one of my tweets and doesn't RT it so I can't imagine how I'd feel. Actually, I CAN imagine how I'd feel. I'd feel angry. If someone uses my words or my ideas and doesn't acknowledge the source then that IS a problem. It's not about recognition, it's about giving credit where it is due.

In order for us, as people and as a society, to work together to do great things we need to be recognized for work or effort. That is what motivates us to keep coming up with great ideas and great ideas benefit EVERYONE.

Reverse the situation, if it were YOU that wrote that article and a 'more traditional and/or highly trafficked outlet' was the source...do you think they would just let it slide? I'm guessing a big NO on that one. ;)

Keep in mind that I am NOT a politically-savvy person in any way. I'm a mom and a wife who has a job and takes care of her family as best she can. But this isn't about politics, it's about common courtesy and decency. My children know better than to take credit for something they didn't do or to NOT give credit for work that is done by someone else. You'd think most adults would be the same. ;)

Saying space was an issue was an excuse and not a very good one at that.

Ending rant now. You are not alone.

Jill Miller Zimon 5 pts

But I do hate to make it about me - I like to think I am an open source info source, if you know what I mean! But the thing is, the coverage of women in politics, women in blogging and women in political blogging, by more traditional and/or highly trafficked outlets is just not what it should be and Politico should know better, they just should. The article reinforces perceptions already out there - that women are not a commonality in pushing from one realm into the political realm. And that actually is not true and there were and are more examples of women that Politico did not cite.

Now - on the other hand - I will say, if want to be all about gender neutral selection of quality candidates and the topic is primarily political bloggers who move to being candidates, well, there is that angle. I'm not denying that. But truly - what could possibly be the gender neutral reason for omitting my name (as opposed to my city's name - I mean, who really knows Pepper Pike, Ohio?) OR omitting Ariana Kelly, who, JUST LIKE JUDD LEGUM, is a political blogger running for a seat in the Maryland House of Delegates?? I just cannot understand that filtering out by the editors.

And, I don't like it. :)

Here's blogging by Ariana btw:

http://www.momsrising.org/blog/author/Ariana-Kelly...

And her campaign:

http://www.kellyfordelegate.com/

Jill Writes Like She Talks ( http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com )

In The Arena: Jill Miller Zimon, Pepper Pike City Council Member ( http://jillmillerzimon.blogspot.com )

justlinda 9 pts

I'm pretty sure I'd feel I was used and it would be very disappointing.

But I have an ego the size of Texas, so there's that.

JustLinda

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