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Should Polyamorous Parents Raise a Child Together?

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My mom watches Good Morning America, affectionately known by the acronym GMA, every day. Living away from home has made me miss it and all its ridiculousness; while the first five minutes are devoted to actual news, the rest is made up of trendy lifestyle pieces like this one, about a woman and two men in a polyamorous relationship.

Unlike the Browns of TLC's Sister Wives, Jaiya Ma, Jon Hanauer, and Ian Ferguson are not in a polygamous relationship. In fact, the opposite is true, as their family unit is comprised of one woman and more than one man. Nor are they polyandrous, which means a wife with two husbands, because Jaiya is married to neither man (not even "spiritually married," like the Browns). The two male partners are allowed to have outside relationships with other women.

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My thoughts on this kind of living situation are mixed. If there weren't a child involved, I would have no problems with it at all. But the fact that Jaiya and her partners are raising a child gives me pause. In the GMA interview, Jaiya says something to the effect of, "Are two enough? Are three enough? Are four enough?" about possibly entering into a relationship with another man. After a certain point, isn't there truly such a thing as enough? It concerns me that Jaiya refers to her partner of ten years, Jon, as like "an old shoe," safe and comfortable, and goes on and on about her passionate her five-year relationship with Ian (the child's biological father) is. Jon doesn't seem too happy about this analogy, and I don't blame him. He's thinking of looking for a new girlfriend.

The idea of multiple people raising one child doesn't bother me on principle, but I would hope that anyone in this kind of relationship is thinking long and hard about what is in the child's best interest. Jaiya and Ian's clearly refers to Jon as his "protector." I can only imagine how hard it would be on him if Jon, tired of being thought of as an old shoe, decided to leave the relationship.

As is usually the case when I watch a GMA special, I'm skeptical of just how "on the rise" polyamory really is. I can't see it working for very many people, because it goes so against our cultural norms and, perhaps, our natural inclination toward possessiveness. Unlike the fundamentalist religious Browns, these people don't see their lifestyle as God's wish, making them less likely to stick with it, I suspect. That being said, I wish Jaiya, Jon, and Ian all the best.

 

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emilee 5 pts

monogamous people are too good parents!

kenzie622 5 pts

Not all polyamorous relationships are open, and as such I feel like this is a poor representation. I'm in an exclusive poly relationship with two men whom I love very much. The way I see it, I could have been simply content with either one though my heart would have had a hole. But my heart was complete once the three of us started dating.

 

We're treating this as any other monogamous relationship, because that's what it is in essence. There are three of us, but none of us have any desire to date other people. I'm pregnant by one of my men, and we only had to find out the father for medical reasons, but they will both be dads to our child. 

brynneth 6 pts

I think it's definitely the wrong approach to judge poly people raising kids by this one situation. If she was raising that child monogomously, she'd still be a slightly, or more than slightly selfish, woman. Being monogamous sure as hell doesn't make you a good parent, but at least this kid gets to grow up with more than one loving dad, or maybe it won't work out and he'll be the child of a divorce, like so many other kids. That really isn't the end of the world.

I'm poly. I have a loving husband, and I love him dearly. We are also in a fidelitous relationship with our boyfriend and girlfriend. We comunicate well, take care of each other, and a year later, we're all very happy. I can honestly say that this is the healthiest relationship any of us has ever had, and we're doing better than a lot of our mono friends. Doesn't mean we're better, or that poly is better, but that it can work incredibly well if it suits what everyone in the relationship wants. I honestly think we're better equipped to raise kids, although that's not on the horizon for us right now, than a whole lot of mono people I know, but no one will question their ability based on their relationship style, because it's considered normal. I think it's a sad reality that people judge based on relationship style, Poly, Gay, or Single rather than parenting ability and love for the children. I've seen too many "Traditional" Families with miserable and even abused children to believe thats what matters.

brynneth 6 pts

Just want to clarify, I didn't mean that she was selfish, I don't actually think that. Just that if she was, she wouldn't be made better by being monogamous. The style isn't important, just the people.

Jemm 5 pts

It is a top question, but no matter what happen it is better to raise a child together. I believe it is a matter of discussion and understanding as long as your main and common interest is for the seek of your child.

Kendra Holliday 7 pts

I am the mother of an only child. I have no idea what it's like to raise multiple children, but it looks more complicated than raising just one. Let's take your concerns about poly parents and apply it to families with multiple children: The idea of people raising more one child doesn't bother me on principle, but I would hope that anyone who chooses to have more than one kid is thinking long and hard about what is in the child's best interest.

jacqueline.allain 23 pts

Kendra Holliday I really don't think the two situations are analogous

questions 5 pts

I just saw the trio in another interview. I'm starting to feel for Jon. I think he's attached to the son and won't leave because of this but looks like he's not completely into this arrangement. Looks like hes feeling neglected... How do poly's remedy this?

brynneth 6 pts

questions The same way monogamous people do. Communicate, try to fix it, or break up and find something that works better. Communication is the most important thing in any relationship, but in the poly community it is given special place. More people means more chances for misunderstandings or hurt feelings. You have to speak up and explain what you want, not expect people to guess.

LifeOptimist 34 pts

sorry - I have to make two posts because I exceeded the character limit.

Part 2:

I have been with my husband (legally married) over 10 years now. He does not date other people. I sometimes spend my very limited free time with 2 other men who live in another city and who I do not consider family, but they have spent time with my 2 year old son. If I had had my way, however, I would have LOVED to have had an extra husband during that first year!

What matters in the end is that my son is loved, my husband and son come first and all my decisions in life are based on what is best for all of us.

And I dare say poly is an orientation. I have never been happy being in a monogamous relationship. Even if I am not dating anyone else, I need to know I always have the option to, otherwise I feel like my personal freedom is being infriged upon and that disturbs me greatly. Some people can do only monogamy, some people can do either (I guess that`s the equivalent of bisexual) and others are only happy polyamourous.

LifeOptimist 34 pts

Being poly all my adult life and knowing lots of poly families, I say there are many benefits for the child: 1) There is almost always someone home to care for the child, eliminating a need for daycare. At the same time, the child has a choice of confidents growing up and varied role models to learn from. One parent might be very good at cooking, another good at math and another good at boating. The child gets to learn a lot!2) Poly families are statistically university educated, usually holding at least a Masters degree, and are in higher paying jobs than the average family. Most of the poly families I know send their children to private schools. These children want for nothing when there are multiple parents and grandparents to spoil them :)

In general, no one parent becomes sleep deprived as there are many to ``take shifts.`` It takes a village to raise a child - well, the family becomes the village :)

jacqueline.allain 23 pts

LifeOptimist "In general, no one parent becomes sleep deprived as there are many to ``take shifts.`` It takes a village to raise a child - well, the family becomes the village :)"

Yeah, I've heard this a lot. Have you seen Sister Wives? If you haven't, there are four wives in the family, and one of them, Janelle, has a full time job outside the home. The other wives take care of her five children when she's gone, so she has a lot of freedom to do what she wants. I can definitely see the benifits to that arrangement.

meowmeowkins 6 pts

You're thinking polyamory too much of a lifestyle and not a sexual orientation. Some people aren't wired to be monogamous, and frankly this article is somewhat offensive. Parents in polyamorous relationships are no more harm to children than single parents.

jacqueline.allain 23 pts

meowmeowkins Really? Polyamory is a sexual orientation? I'm sorry, but with all due respect, I'm not quite sure I buy that. And the last 3,000 times I heard someone say "some people aren't wired to be monogomous," it was some evolutionary biologist trying to prove that men cheating on their wives and having lots of kids is "just the way men are."

brynneth 6 pts

jacqueline.allainmeowmeowkins Can you at least accept that there are people who are extremely happy in poly relationships, and wouldn't be happy in a mono situation? It doesn't really matter if it's genetic or developed, as long as everyone is loved and taken care of.

Liz Henry 12 pts moderator

Frankly, I find this title is a bit offensive. What do you suggest people who are poly and have kids do, then? It's just another kind of blended family.

jacqueline.allain 23 pts

Liz Henry Yeah, I don't like the title either. It was originally "Polyamory on GMA." I didn't choose this title.

Shannon LC Cate 46 pts

There's no reason why any particular family configuration should hurt or help a child. It is entirely dependent on the people involved. If they are good parents, they aren't going to up and abandon their kids, regardless of what happens between the adults involved.

If we're really concerned about what happens to children when adult relationships end, we need to reform our family laws to protect such children in every possible way--for example, allowing people to legally parent children together when they desire it, whether they are the same sex, whether there are more than two of them, etc. And we ought to be more interested in holding abandoning parents responsible for their children's welfare--I'm thinking deadbeat parents here.

There are many, many, many more children harmed by losing a parent when a good old-fashioned, patriarchal, heterosexual, legal marriage dissolves than will probably ever be harmed by polyamory.

Jaiya 11 pts

Jaiya, here... had to chime in to give some clarity to our story. Thank you all for a great conversation about open-relationships and raising children. It's so great to hear people talking about these things. I have two things to clarify. 1- Notice in the interview on GMA that I never said that Jon was an "old" shoe. I said that he was a "comfortable" shoe and that is a big difference. The reporter actually said that he was the old shoe... I corrected her again after this but they cut that part out. 2- The quote "is one enough, two enough etc." was taken completely out of context. I was actually asking a question there... because i get asked this all the time. Here is what I actually said "I get asked this question from the media all the time, is one enough, two enough, three, four, five... right now I am pretty happy with my two guys..." They used me repeating the question, not answering the question. Hope this helps clarify. The media can edit things however they like. Overall, though, I thought GMA did a great job....

jacqueline.allain 23 pts

Jaiya Oh wow, that actually is COMPLETELY out of context. Jeez. It makes sense, though, because they want to be provocative.

I apologize for coming off as holier-than-thou in my piece. I shouldn't be so closed-minded.

Cassandra Priam 11 pts

Go Jaiya...! She's just doing what the rest of us wish we could do: just keep adding to the "team" until there is an equal distribution of the domestic work between the genders. Let me know how many men it takes to accomplish "half" LOL. And before anyone screams at me about being so blatantly sexist, how many days do you get through without thinking at least once: "damn, I wish there were TWO of me." Maybe "group relationships" are the answer...

edavis 576 pts

Raising a child is hard and creating and modeling a healthy relationship based on trust and honesty is challenging. I want my children to grow up and be able to have close healthy trusting intimate relationships (not sexual) with friends and family. Mono, poly, straight, gay - I don't think those things make as much of a difference as the actual quality of the relationships that children grow up seeing. It sounds like the folks who were on GMA have some work to do in the relationship department. Who wants to feel like an old shoe or feel like you might be dumped at any moment? I think the relationships dynamics sound rather lousy and un-intimate and un-trusting even if they claim to be open and honest.

Cassandra Priam 11 pts

edavis

the "old shoe" analogy is not unique to this polyamorous relationship, and I am sure that in a typical monogamous relationship where this type of attitude exists towards one partner is blatantly obvious to any children present.

edavis 576 pts

I agree completely. Cassandra Priam

jacqueline.allain 23 pts

Hey, thanks for the comments everybody.

As for the "should" in the title, I didn't choose the title. I probably wouldn't have worded it like that, either.

Random-Mom 16 pts

I just don't buy it, so I'll keep my husband and four children and leave everyone else out of it. Life is complicated enough with just two adults in a household...

jwatson 10 pts

I have to agree with the other comments. I was raised in a single parent home with a great deal of help from a grandparent, and I get intensely uncomfortable when any "shoulds" are applied to family structure. Like Jenna, I tend to think that what happens sexually between these adults has nothing to do with how they feel about or are raising this child. In terms of the "freedom to leave" this is true in marriage or any other arrangement. I don't think anyone really believes that religion holds people together a whole lot better than, say, a handshake.

Segments like these are chosen to be provocative, make people at home gasp and judge and feel superior. With so many types of families out there, it takes a little more to make us do that.

jacqueline.allain 23 pts

jwatson Yeah, I get uncomfortable when "shoulds" are applied to family structure, too. I didn't choose the title. It was originally a much blander "Polyamory on Good Morning America." Just wanted to clear that up.

jacqueline.allain 23 pts

jwatson And thanks for commenting. I pretty much agree with you. I'm usually fairly open-minded about family structures that fall outside the norm. I guess the "old shoe" analogy kind of just made me wonder if their situation was going to work out.

blackgirlinmaine 13 pts

Considering we are living in a time where half of all marriages end in divorce, I think maybe we do need to consider the reality that the notion of what we call a family no longer works. People seem quick to judge poly folks but the difference between them and most folks is that they are honest. Presumably their kids will grow up knowing their parents have other partners rather than finding out years later mom or dad had a side person. Obviously many couples don't have outside relationships but many do, I am for honesty in the end.

In some ways I see arrangements like this as beneficial for the entire family, if they can make it work out. More people to share in all the stuff that most of us in 2 people relationships get bogged down in.

jacqueline.allain 23 pts

blackgirlinmaine "People seem quick to judge poly folks but the difference between them and most folks is that they are honest." Yes, I agree with that.

JennaHatfield 291 pts

Hmm.

I kind of think asking "should" poly parents raise a child together is the same as asking should ANY parents raise a child together. There are no guarantees. No best way. You can argue that there's less stability in a home where one or more parties can just get up and leave, but I don't necessarily think that's true. And while some might be nervous about the prospects of bring in other people in their other relationships, I am most certain that they have set ground rules that not every Tom, Dick and Jane can just be brought in, meet the kid and have contact. Just because they're polyamorous doesn't mean that they're irresponsible with their relationships, their time, their boundaries or their child.

And, quite honestly, I'm all for more love for a child. I hate the attitude thrown at poly people just because they're different. Divorced families used to be different. Open adoption families are different. Different does not mean less than. Or worse. It just means different.

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Polish Mama on the Prairie
Polish Mama on the Prairie

Polyamory... as in, both parents have lovers but are married? Or are divorced? Or.... what? It's a vague term. Anyway, I'm raising my kids to be faithful and expect the same of their partners because they are worthy of being faithful to. Just my opinion.

Delia Coleman
Delia Coleman

Many already do. And their kids are fine.

Black LotusButterfly
Black LotusButterfly

so true @ stephanie. I mean you make polyamory sound like a disease. Who wrote this ? Everyday when I read the news about some of the dumb crap done by monogamous folks...I wonder should they procreate, but hey..they do! Please leave your boxes out of this subject, if someone can love, nurture, encourage, and enlighten a young mind in this world...go for it!

Stephanie Reed Chance
Stephanie Reed Chance

can't be worse than how some serial monogamists raise children.

Ellen Jauregui Contard
Ellen Jauregui Contard

Polyamory is wrong. I mean, polyphilia or multiamory, ok, but one should *not* mix Greek and Latin roots. ;-)

Christina Lane
Christina Lane

I think psychology studies show that people with open relationships have a much much lower rate of success than monogamous ones.

Anna Mushynski
Anna Mushynski

Anyone who can model healthy relationships - any and all types - should be allowed to raise children

Maggie Mitchell
Maggie Mitchell

I think if polyamorous parents are ready to see their child enter into a polyamorous relationship of his own (with all of the issues and benefits contained therein), then sure. There would be an issue, however, with parents in this type of situation not wanting to see their child in the same type of relationship. There are many little souls out there in the world with monogamous parents feeling very little love. If a child can be loved, supported, encouraged and allowed to grow and thrive, I guess it really doesn't matter what the parents are up to, relationship-wise. They should be prepared for their son or daughter to want to do the same thing though, based on their (hopefully) good examples.

Janel Eberly-Newlin
Janel Eberly-Newlin

When are we gonna let go of the bible belt Puritanical BS? Read sex at dawn !!

emily steers
emily steers

um, yes. how is this even a question?

Jennifer Bertrand
Jennifer Bertrand

Yep, why not?

Sorrelle Ellis
Sorrelle Ellis

Hetero monogamous couples can barely raise kids...so everyone else should be able to.

Kit Kimberly
Kit Kimberly

"it goes so against are cultural norms and, perhaps, are natural inclination toward possessiveness."

I think the writer should read Sex At Dawn and find out how misinformed her views actually are.

Sharon Emery
Sharon Emery

What Phi Phi said.

Phi Phi Gregs
Phi Phi Gregs

Why not?