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Raped at a Marriott in Front of Your Toddlers? Too Bad, Slacker.

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Editor's Update: Marriott says, "It was a mistake to suggest that the victim of this tragic incident was responsible for the vicious crime against her." This story was updated on BlogHer with Marriott's response early Wednesday morning and with additional updates in the comment section August 20. You may read the update at BlogHer here.

You are also invited to read Marriott's official statement in the update's comments section and information about the court detail. Marriott International withdrew its "special defense on August 17 and on August 18 issued its statement of regret.

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton just spent time addressing violence against women in the Congo, Africa, expressing disdain for a misogynistic culture. Perhaps next, in her spare time, she should have a talk with attorneys in America who represent Marriott International. The lawyers are defending that corporation against a female guest's lawsuit by blaming her for her rape.

Marriott never struck me as the kind of company that would blame a mother who was raped on its property in front of her children for her own assault, that would accuse her of being careless and placing her children in danger because a rapist attacked her. Indeed, on Marriott's Social Responsibility & Community Engagement page the slogan is "Spirit to Serve Our Communities."

And here is the quote at the top of its Business and Ethics page:

"We need to stand together to ensure that the travel and tourism industry is always a positive force for good in the world. -- J.W. Marriott, Jr., Chairman and CEO

I first learned about this story in email. It seems that the woman was in the parking garage of The Stamford Marriott Hotel & Spa in Connecticut, when she was raped. Here's how this story's being reported by The Advocate of Stamford:

STAMFORD -- A downtown hotel being sued by a woman raped at gunpoint in its parking garage is claiming she was careless, negligent and "failed to exercise due care for her own safety and the safety of her children and proper use of her senses and facilities," according to court documents.

... On Oct. 10, 2006, (Danbury, Conn., Gary) Fricker stuck a handgun in the back of the then 40-year-old woman and forced her and her children, then 3 and 5, into their minivan as they left the hotel, according to court documents.

She let him go through her wallet and told him he could take it, but Fricker demanded she take off her clothes. Fricker sexually assaulted the woman for several minutes, pointing the gun at her and her children and threatening to sexually assault one of her children.

When another car pulled up, the woman screamed, and Fricker fled. Police arrested Fricker near White Plains, N.Y., three days later, and he immediately confessed, police have said.

Fricker, a transient carpenter, had been arrested 20 times before and was wanted in Florida on an arson case, police have said.(The Advocate)

According to the story, Fricker, 56, after pleading guilty, received 20 years. Six months later in May 2008, the victim sued Marriott corporation. And now, this company that's built an image of family values for more than 80 years has attorneys who argue an archaic view of rape, telling women, "It's your fault you were assaulted unless you can prove you locked all your doors and watched where you were going."

How is this any different from the old, misognynistic accusation "If you didn't wear that short, red dress, Ms. Slut, you wouldn't have been raped"?

The Advocate's article is detailed, explaining why the company's attorneys would make such a play, something about "a list of special defenses" that allows "defendants in civil suits to argue they are not responsible for damages even if the plaintiff's story is true." You can read about special defenses if you like, but I'm done. I don't care what the Marriott's "defense" is for its indefensible covering of its ass on this one.

I'm not necessarily saying I agree with the woman's lawsuit because I haven't processed that part of the story yet. What I'm saying is that the Marriott has slapped all women in the face with its reprehensible rhetoric in hopes of saving itself from paying damages. Did its attorneys think this story would not reach us? Do they not know the spending power of women who, in my opinion, should cross the Marriott off their lists for family hotels, stop using the Marriott for business trips, and influence their spouses

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

Marriott calls the language a "mistake." and has asked that the "special defense" blaming the victim be withdrawn.This story has been updated at BlogHer at this link ( http://www.blogher.com/marriott-says-it-told-insur... ). This Marriott story has certainly inspired passion. If you are genuinely interested in facts and follow-up and don't simply enjoy bashing either rape victims or corporations based on a personal ideology, I recommend a look at the update ( http://www.blogher.com/marriott-says-it-told-insur... ), including information about the court detail ( http://www.blogher.com/marriott-says-it-told-insur... ) in the update's comment section.  

Thank you all for reading and commenting, and even more for thinking about your comments and educating us all.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

CDEscamilla 5 pts

If the Marriott wants to impress us with their new found virtue then:1. Settle amicably and now with Ms. Jane Doe2. Ban the use of the 'Marriott Defense' now and for all time3. Terminate any and all contracts with those who still choose to pursue a 'Mariott Defense'Then just maybe something good may come from this.

Tonimalise 5 pts

I will protect myself and my family by never again setting foot on Marriott property. Am I being cautious enough now Marriott?????

Alton 5 pts

When you sue someone, you make a claim that something they did caused you X dollars in loss. How much is Marriot being sued for? What is the price this victim put on her rape? When you put a price tag on sexual assault, dont you open yourself up to the defense of, "you are responsible for that cost of $50,000, not us".

tif1827 5 pts

Exactly dont stay there, who cares, marriott will just look at it is less people to sue them for ridiculous things

tif1827 5 pts

It is an acceptable defense because her basis of lawsuit is unacceptable. She is suing for NO reason. Not that anyone deserves to be raped but she was perfect target. She was distracted, she had 2 kids, she was not paying attention and the guy saw her as easy target.  So yes, in that aspect she was at fault. She paid the worst price but as all those articles on how to protect yourself say, the first defense is to not make yourself an easy target. You are not looking at this in open minded matter. All you saw was big corporation blaming woman who was involved with horrible rape at hotel and now they are ganging up on poor woman to hurt her more. That is not what happened. She is using no real legal basis other than she was raped. She is trying to sue a company for something that is not their fault, and you and all these woman are upset because the company said mean things. How many times in your life or any of these woman, have said mean and hurtful, perhaps very hurtful, untrue things? Think of any fight you have ever had, those words probably hurt deeply the person you were saying them to. Well same instance, I do not think these people actually believe it or mean it, they are really pissed because they get sued all the time and this is really a reaching lawsuit and they are fed up.  If america was not so "lawsuit happy" I doubt that these lawyers or company would have taken that route. It is one more thing that is a waste of time.

tif1827 5 pts

This just shows how america is so stupid. Just because a large corporation used mean language and said hurtful things because they are being sued, does not mean you should boycott. The victim is not entitled to money, at least from hotel.  There are people sexually assaulted everyday, most by family members, and you think they get money? This happens on regular basis everyday. If I was raped everyday by a family member I would punch this woman. She should work to make sure this guy never goes to jail, go to support groups, work on safety in public areas. Suing marriott and whining about the lawyers who are defending the company you are suing for no reason, is not a morally right way, or healthy way to deal with situation. She should be concerned with her kids, who witnessed this horrible act and want to fix them since they are emotionally scarred. Then there is people like you and all these woman on here who condone it.  I personally know people who were sexually abused and the guys or family members who did it never went to jail. At least he was found & is getting punishment. Suing is not the answer to everything and if she was going to use her horrible crime to her advantage, then she has to be prepared to for this to happen.

tif1827 5 pts

I am confused. Why is it Marriott's fault? what happened is horrible and they should have never said that, but really it is not their fault. That would have happened to her anywhere if someone is going to do that, they are going to do it.  I think everyone should not be so lawsuit happy, instead actually work to make sure it does not happen again and go to some counseling. Marriott definitely reacted that way in defense. They are getting their asses sued and they do not want to lose money. The guy who did it is in jail. I wish her the very best but I do not think she should be able to sue Marriott. There are tons of people who are sexually assaulted everyday, some people even by their own family members, they go through tons of pain and torture on daily basis and they are not even able to do anything. This woman should be looking to solve the problems and heal herself not going to court for money. The guy is already in jail, so that is money factor. You think if this happened infront of mom and pop store she could sue? no, the hotel probably did its job, they got video and guy was caught.  

kittypoo 5 pts

I think the issue is more in how they are defending themselves by blaming the woman rather than making the statement you made.  If they had just said what you said rather than saying the woman was to blame and that her children should have been able to help her, maybe it wouldn't have even made the headlines.  They are Mormons though and may very well believe that the woman was at fault.  Afterall it is a fairly primitive cult religion.  I know I was a member for a while.  Women are chattel.

JeepFan55 5 pts

This has been turned around to be sexist and that is not the case here. The lady has no claim against Marriott, but that is ok she blamed "the hotel" for her rape. But it is not ok for the hotel to blame her. The rapist was caught and sentenced. For all you who want to quit staying at Marriott, good riddens! The hotel in no way violated her safety, it happened in a parking garage not in the lobby where everyone could see it. Not many garages I know of have security in them 24/7. I guess they need a sign now that says "not responsible for rape".

vicjoplin 5 pts

I think the Marriot Hotels could have defended themselves without attacking the victim. They just had show how they handled security at the place and that they had taken all reasonable steps to keep their guests safe. I don't know if the woman had a reason to sue them or not I don't know the details, but we also have people who are sue happy and just see an opportunity to get some money. I don't necessarily think it's the hotels fault she was raped. SO QUIT BLAMING EACH OTHER AND BLAME THE ONE WHO DID IT.

420kushsmokeronly 5 pts

Why would she as a victim of rape want to sue an organization that did
not rape her. yes she was on the property for some reason but that her business she chose to drive the kids down to the hotel when your at a hotel you are suppose to watch your surroundings especially if you have kids with you, don't get me wrong what happened to her and her family is unthinkable but the true crime here is that she is suing this organization. If she wasn't in La La land this would not of happened and
now she is thinking about her pockets instead of her kids well being
not once in the article did it say if the lady was getting her kids
emotional needs taken care of. When something this horrible happens in
California the state pays for all the medical bills of the victims
involved including hospital bills, therapy, and any other bills
associated with the trauma why would Marriott be responsible for that i
don't know but if it were me i would call her every name under the book
to protect my vested interest in my business besides they caught the
guy why isn't she suing him?    

shamanoak 5 pts

I have two words for you, Steven:  "handgun" and "children".  While I'm not sure why the VICTIM feels she needs to sue Marriott, I am very sure that it is ludicrous for Marriott to blame the victim for somehow "causing" the (convicted) perpetrator's violence against her.  Rape is an act of violence.  It is never anything like a proportional response to a victim's behavior, no matter what that may be.  Rape is an act of power, aggression, anger and violence.  What kind of person would rape a woman at gunpoint in front of children?

Seaweasel 5 pts

I couldn't believe the responses defending Marriott.  Maybe there was nothing that could have been done to prevent this tragedy.  Maybe Marriott did use reasonable care in protecting their guests.  Their lack of responsibility ended when they tried to lay blame for this "incident" on the victim.  She should be well compensated for the despicable behavior of Marriott and their attorneys.  This is one of the cheapest, ambulance chasing, shyster legal tricks in the book.....blame the victim!  I for one will never stay at a Marriott again!

PS:  I know this Marriott well since I've stayed there in the past.

RachaelAnn 5 pts

Marriott needs some new attorneys.  They are costing Marriott way too much just with the shear stupidity of their over zelouse backwoods thinking.  Actually, what are they thinking? 

To come up with this kind of defense is outrageous.  Would they have used the same defense if the "victim" had been shot and killed in front of her children?   He had a gun.  She had children.   I hope some of the folks that are trained in the art of teaching how to deal with this kind of attack come forward on this womans behalf.   There is nothing she could have done once the gun came out, especially with children.    She must feel like she is going through the rape all over again having to deal with this kind of intense blatant stupidity and the attorneys using this technique should go before the State Bar or better yet be mandated to volunteer at a rape crisis center.  If I sound angry I am.

I hope the backlash of this follows Marriott for a very very long time.  You deserve no less.

Nordette Adams 6 pts

Marriott's already withdrawn the offensive defense. If we can believe them, they recognized that such a defense was abhorrent and the antithesis of Marriott's family image before anyone complained.

It's never acceptable to blame a victim of rape for rape, not even if she was naked and then changed her mind.  End of story.

Men who accept responsibility for their actions, who respect women as equals capable of directing their own lives, and don't think of themselves as animals who can't control themselves agree that "no means no." The circumstances don't matter. 

As has been stated repeatedly in the comments and even in the post itself, nobody's arguing whether the rape victim's case has merit because we don't know how the Stamford Marriott is set up. However, the Marriott does have a certain responsibility for its guests and their safety.

So, whether or not Marriott is responsible for the rape is not the point. The point is that the insurance company's lawyers argued the ugliest defense possilbe, a "blame the rape victim defense," which is a genuine coward's defense.  

However, as I've said to others, if any individual thinks blaming a woman for her rape is acceptable, that's their choice.  You have the right to believe whatever you wish.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Alton 5 pts

I know how fun it is to jump on the band wagon and slam a huge, faceless organization when you get a chance but I think the article and most of the posts here miss the point and weaken more legitimate claims of sexism.

    It seems clear that the person at fault for this rape is first and foremost the rapist. The victim is seeking damages from Marriot saying that some of their actions (or lack of action) show negligence in preventing that rape, so she should get money because of the damage this crime caused her and her family. Marriot is retorting that some of the victim's actions (or lack of action) show negligence in preventing a rape, so they are not responsible for the rape and therefore not liable financially. In other words, this victim and Marriot are making the exact same accusation about one another. Why is it safe to assume the victim's claim is valid but Marriot's claim is so outrageous that we should boycott them?

Steven Hughes 5 pts

There simply are not enough facts to understand the circumstances surrounding this event.   Besides the obvious details that are missing... time of event, emotional status of victim, did she meet this guy before going into the garage?  Then there are other questions that would need to be clarified, was she intoxicated?   I'm not defending the rapist in this case, he should get all that's coming too him.  But, the Marriot's language in defense may be addressing some issues that have not been addressed in this "story"  I'm just playing devil's advocate, as too many people are willing to jump on a wagon without really knowing the whole story.   What if she had just met him at the bar.  What if she had just had a bad experience with the front desk staff and this kind gentlemen 56 years old, offers to let her and her kids stay at his place for free?  what if she takes him up on the offer and let him help her get her two kids into the car?  I mean there is just sooooooooooo many things we don't know that might have lead up to this horrific scene.  But, it may not be entirely inconceivable that she was acting a bit careless.  I've done some things that seemed well and good at the time, but in hindsight I'm luck to be alive.  Again,   spare me all the women-hater responses and I don't work for Marriot,  I'm just tired of people being lured into judgement with only what appears to be a small portion of the facts.  With out all the other story if this event took place at around 2am that alone would call into question why the victim would have her toddlers getting into a car at that hour... (flight, not smart to drive yourself to the airport with two toddlers to deal with) Anywho... my point is not to rush to boycott, and anything short of hearing the whole story can only lead one to make harsh assessments of the Marriot's response.

 THE END 

Jinxed731 5 pts

This is absolutely archaic and disgusting behavior!  Why must the victim ALWAYS be blamed and put on trial.  She was obviously an EXCELLENT mother for not fighting back and making the gun man harm her children.  I just goes to show that the Marriott is run by men who buy into the "boys will be boys" mentality.  It is disgraceful and a shame that there are still people who harbor the "well, she asked for it" attitude!  Rape is a crime of power, not passion.  Women should be made to feel protected and not HAVE to worry about using their "senses and facilities" when walking to their cars with their children, or anywhere for that matter!  What is WRONG with people? If society would stop allowing these crimes to go unpunished - or a punishment that is so ridiculously understated as to be laughable -  then maybe women might be able to venture out in public by themselves and not have to worry about being violated- in any sense of the word.  I am severely disappointed that the Marriott would go to such extremes as to publicly insult and criticize the traumatized woman.  Now the poor woman has to deal with being victimize twice.  The Marriott basically raped her again by publicly humiliating her.  There are no words that can expressed my absolute - and all consuming - disgust at the comments made by the Marriott.  I think all women should take their business to a company that views them as human and not some man's whore.

Nordette Adams 6 pts

Thank you for the heads up. I couldn't figure out how Marriott let that slip through, but if it was the insurance company that did it, then I hope Marriott has some strong language with it about legal cases in the future, defense language used, and perhaps a run by its public relations department before it moves forward with offensive legal rhetoric.

I see in The Advocate's updated story that Marriott "had requested the claim be withdrawn weeks ago."  Shame on the insurance company for not heeding the wishes of the hotel if that is so. If this is true, then I feel better that Marriott told them to withdraw the claim before the public outcry, but I wonder why Marriott didn't say that it wanted the defense withdrawn in the statement it released Friday. I guess the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing?

This case reminds me of the Dollar Tree case ( http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2... ) last year in which a racist unaffiliated with the store stabbed to death a black female Dollar Tree employee. He'd decided to kill the first black person he saw and that person happened to be stocking shelves at the store.

The story became a greater tragedy when the store's insurance company denied paying the life insurace claim to the dead employees 11-year old son reasoning that because the worker was black and the crime was racially motivated, then it was a personal connection and not a work connection that caused her death.

People boycotted Dollar Tree, bloggers wrote their outrage, and most people saw it as a case of a worker being murdered on the job by a deranged stranger but the company trying to wiggle out of paying for the most odious reason, "her skin color was the reason she was killed," as though she would have come across this man who killed her whether she was working at the Dollar Tree or not.

Dollar Tree said it was only doing what the insurance company said it should do, apologized, and compensated the son. The reversal was attributed to Internet social media and other public pressure.

Too bad we don't know the name of Marriott's insurance company. Its attorneys deserve some public heat, but I'll suppose they've heard an earful from Marriott International. Wish I could've been a fly on the wall.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

jkirschner 5 pts

According to an update ( http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/ci_13140972?source... ) today in The Advocate, Marriott is claiming the defense was handled by their insurance company, they had no role or knowledge of the defense, and Marriott has asked that the defense be withdrawn.  Assuming this is true (and it very well might be as it is the insurance company that is on the hook for the lawsuit), then it is the insurance company that should be taking the brunt of the ire.  Unfortunately, that insurance company is not named.

Not that it lets Marriott off the hook for any security lapses...

Stamford Marriott requests defense in rape victim's lawsuit be withdrawn http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/ci_13140972?source...

confusedhomemaker 5 pts

Everytime I see this story I get angier than the last time.  It boggles my mind how Marriot could take a blame the victim stance.  I am so unbelievably upset by this. 

beth aka confusedhomemaker

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Megan Smith 5 pts

As you say Nordette, the issue is not about the merits of the woman's lawsuit, but about the insulting defense the Marriott company has chosen to use.  It's sexist and a slap in the face to all women.

Megan
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pookielocks 5 pts

Unfortunately, blaming the victim is all too common. It doesn't surprise me that Marriott has taken this stance, as I know there are millions of people out there who were abused as children and were not believed by their OWN PARENTS. That's a greater travesty to me.

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Ilinap 5 pts

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I am sick about this and posted about it last night, albeit incoherently due to my rage. http://www.dirtandnoise.com/2009/08/marriott-is-di... ( http://www.dirtandnoise.com/2009/08/marriott-is-di... )

As a victim of sexual assault myself, I have zero tolerance for pointing a finger at the victim, somehow making it her fault. This country continues to turn the cheek and let perpetrators get away with violence against women. A small percentage of rapists are ever convicted, counties are not funding rape kits in ERs, athletes who are accused of domestic violence get off the hook with a big fat paycheck. There was a star varsity athlete in my college who was accused of raping a hallmate of mine, his girlfriend. His brothers were all star athletes, and his dad was a coach. It was all over the papers, and I lived with this girl, the victim, so I saw and felt her agony on a daily basis. She was taunted on campus while he maintained his free ride to college. Be it corporations or top athletes, we are protecting the wrong people here, folks. It's a disgrace.

The Many Hats blog expresses the same rage I feel and makes a great point about how this woman did indeed use her faculties to protect herself and her children; they alive today because of it. Read it here: http://themanyhats.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-dare-y... ( http://themanyhats.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-dare-y... )

nowickedwitch 5 pts

I read about this earlier today and would love to see the full court papers on this.

This brings up the same old question - would a man who was robbed or molested on Marriot property under the similar circumstance ever be accused of not mitigatiing his own damages?

This tactic, used unrelentlessly on women who are raped, is getting real old.

cooper

Nordette Adams 6 pts

I strongly feel that you have not read this post. Perhaps you are confusing the post here with some other post on the same topic on another website because the premise of the main post has nothing to do with the right of any corporation to defend itself in a lawsuit.

Here is a statement from the main post in very plain English:

I'm not necessarily saying I agree with the woman's lawsuit because I haven't processed that part of the story yet. 

Indeed the words sexist and sexism are not mentioned in the main post, and your comment is the only comment that uses either word.

The main post maintains that the rhetoric Marriott International's lawyers use in its defense is offensive because it blames the victim for her own rape. That is the focus. Not once is it asserted that the Marriott does not have the right to defend itself. How the hotel's lawyers defend the corporation is the object of protest.

However, if you approve of rape victims being blamed for their own rapes as an acceptable legal defense, then that's your choice. 

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

AngelsCorner 5 pts

I feel that it may be erroneous to claim the hotel is being sexist because they have the audacity to defend themselves in a civil lawsuit.  Just because their an 'evil capitalistic pig' International Corporation they automatically have to pay out every civil lawsuit claim for any crime?  I disagree.  I think that the man was rightfully sent to prison;  Yet, blaming the hotel because they didn't 'protect' you might be as silly, as their counter argument.  If you could prove that there is a 'history' of poor security at the hotel then there might be a case, but I have yet to read any mention of such a 'history'.  Thus, the hotel is void of any responsibility for the crime.  Furthermore, I feel that turning this story into some drama about sexism in America, and the world, may be a disservice to Women in general.

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you skimmed the first paragraph of the post and, therefore,  both misread and misunderstood what was written, that you know nothing of my other work referencing the Congo or writings about Africa, my consistent stand on violence against women around the world, my respect for Hillary Clinton, and also that you know nothing of my personal experience with rape.

I hope you will re-read the first paragraph and perhaps follow the link associated with the words "in the congo" in the first paragraph of the main post, which leads to another post written by me about Hillary Clinton. Perhaps you will also consider that others reading this post do not have the perception that I require a lesson about Hillary Clinton or violence against women in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Indeed, my use of the phrase "misogynistic culture" in the first paragraphy should strike the astute reader that I am not only aware of violence against women in the Congo but also know why Hillary Clinton visited that nation last week.

If anything, I implied Hillary Clinton is a superwoman able to set misogynists straight. However, as Secretary of State, the task of lecturing American attorneys in a civil suit would be unrelated to her purview, hence the use of the phrase "in her spare time."

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Nordette Adams 6 pts

Thank you all for taking the time to comment. This topic definitely struck many of us at the core. 

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Nordette Adams 6 pts

I appreciate your passing it on. :-) 

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Julianne McLaughlin 5 pts

I have three words for the hotel, the lawyers, and anyone who could possibly blame this innocent victim for what happened to her.

Shame on you. 

 Julianne

justeatit 5 pts

They have smoke detectors in each room and locked doors. Yet they take no responsibility to protect their patrons when they park on THIER premises. Parking garages are the most dangerous places out there. If you can't afford some level of safety then guests should be forced to sign a liability waiver before staying there. THEN see how many guests you get you horrible fu*ks. 

OK, I'm going to go throw up now.  

Just Eat It

ambergirl 5 pts

Hopefully this incident drives Marriott to review it's security policies in garage & parking areas connected to properties which the guests utilize. 

Their response is unacceptable & flies in the face of human decency, sound business practice & basic common sense .

My brother's car was stolen from a hotel parking lot in Washington DC a few years ago & the hotel was not responsible in any way (disappointing)- such signs are usually displayed prominently, giving the property owners wiggle room. His sense afterwards is that someone in the hotel scouted his car out. 

p.s. Not sure why you opted to bring Hillary Clinton into the top of this in a negative manner. She's been a tireless advocate for women & children, including early work with CHIP etc. for many long decades. Her job is serving as the Secretary of State & among the many things she is doing she is trying to address the profoundly horrific ongoing crimes in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. If you know anything at all about this situation & how it relates to the historic place of women in too many places in the world it will beyond set your hair on fire. Women & children are openly preyed upon & serially kidnapped & raped. 

Nordette Adams 6 pts

I don't think anyone wants to argue the case of whether Marriott is to blame for the mom being raped because without seeing how the parking lot is set up, if it has adequate lighting, without knowing if there are cameras in strategic locations and people to monitor those cameras, and without knowing whether Marriot was aware of the rapist hanging around prior to the rape, how can we know if Marriott could have done a better job? Nevertheless, there is something called corporate negligence and people have the right to sue when they feel the charge is warranted. 

After hearing this story, whether women choose not to stay at a Marriott has as much to do with safety concerns as it does with boycotting the company based on its lawyers' rhetoric. It sounds as though at least one of its hotels, the Stamford Marriott, has no better security than a $59 per night motel. At least seedy motels don't pretend to be safe for families.

Getting a motel attitude toward safety while paying Marriott prices and being sucked in by its upscale image just doesn't work for me. At the least it can be argued that Marriott feels no responsibility for the safety of its "guests," which is enough reason for reasonable people to choose to stay elsewhere.

Its lawyer's language makes matters worse, reflecting that Marriott may have a few idiots in its legal department, but idiots only have the power the company gives them. While its legal department has nothing to do with service at the hotel, the hotel's support of its legal team's rhetoric reflects a corporate culture that I can't support. And as long as Marriott doesn't publicly denounce the rhetoric and demand that its legal team finds another way to defend the company from this lawsuit, then the public may surmise that Marriott International's board agrees with the rhetoric. If that's the case, why would any self-respecting female spend a dima at a Marriott?

This is a Public Relations disaster. And I hope the public brings whatever power it has down on Marriott to say "unacceptable." If Marriott wants to be in business, then it must be prepared to take the licks a business takes when acting stupidly or when failing to address its agents who act stupidly. No sympathy for Marriott from me. None!!!

If the rape victim wants money, then she deserves it now simply for how Marriott handled the lawsuit, including contacting her friends and family to testify against her and most likely challenge her mothering skills.  As one man pointed out at my personal blog, Marriott is raping this woman again. 

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

Your story is unbelievable. I wonder how the lawyer could form the words. 

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Erin G 5 pts

I actually LOVE marriotts and I am very disappointed in their legal team for tryign to turn this around on the victim. It was NOT her fault.

However, to be fair, I don't think it was the marriott's fault, either. They can't control all the crazies in the parking deck, and the fact that we live in a culture where every victim needs to blame someone (in addition to the actual culprit, I mean) is just sad.

Our economy can't handle mega corporations having to shell out big money for perps not in their employ or whatever, so I am totally behind marriott's decision to defend themselves in this case. However, the language used by their legal team is MASSIVELY INAPPROPRIATE -- I don't care WHAT that woman or her kids did, they do NOT deserve to be raped, nor did they bring it on themselves.

But why can't she just blame the perp instead of suing the hotel chain? Sadly, I suspect it has something to do with money. :(

miguelina 5 pts

As you said, it's not about the hotel defending itself against a lawsuit - but to blame a victim for her rape (and the violence against her chlldren) as a defense strategy is outrageous. And then, to try to "out her" (shame her?) to friends and family is despicable. 

Shame on Marriott and their lawyers.

cindychoi108 5 pts

I'm never staying at a Mariott property again

HipMom 5 pts

How is a woman, with her two children, supposed to prevent or defend herself from a crime like this? It's kind of hard to run away carrying two toddlers, and I know I would have been afraid that fighting back would get my kids in trouble too.

As someone who lived just 20 minutes away from Stamford and spent a lot of time in Stamford with her kids, this is especially scary to think something like this could happen to a woman, with her two kids and staying at one of the hotels downtown. I am extremely disappointed that the Marriot chain chose to blame the victim for the crime and not take any responsibilitym when this happened on THEIR premises! Shame on them. It is despicable.

avflox 5 pts

I think the hotel has a responsibility to protect people who are on the premises. It's not their fault that she was raped, but it is their responsibility. I know getting slapped with a lawsuit is nasty, but their inability to deal with it in a humane way that takes into account her pain and horror is negligent and, as you mention, terrible for their image.

I'm disappointed. The incident has definitely changed my perception of Marriott.

Sierra Black 5 pts

I just posted my own take on this, as a rape survivor who's been raked over the coals by a hostile lawyer: http://childwild.com/2009/08/14/boycott-the-marrio...

AmberS 5 pts

That is beyond horrifying. I will certainly avoid staying at a Marriott again. I'm speechless.

~ Amber

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downema1160 5 pts

My first thought is sympathy for the victim and her family.  Having been a victim of rape, one is left with one thought .... survive at all costs.  When the safety of your kids is at stake, it becomes God help us all.  Anything, but please don't hurt my babies.  That Marriott would take such a cold and accusatory stand in this case is reprehensible.  NO ONE ASKS TO BE RAPED.  To have every shred of your dignity wrenched away, to have a stranger steal what is most privately YOURS, leaves you feeling lost and vulnerable and pissing mad.  For Marriott Corp to dismiss this as "her own fault" is patently ridiculous.  It was a CRIME you fools!  That it happened on YOUR property does not give you the right to gloss over and throw blame on the victim.  V-I-C-T-I-M.  And what of her children?  Is it possible they DON'T have nightmares of what heppened to their mother?  For heaven's sake, let's call a spade a spade here.  This woman, going about her business, perhaps telling the children of the wonders of the zoo they were about to visit (or whevever they were headed) should have that right without fear of being attached along the way!  Mr. Marriott, do YOU look askance with every step you take on the street?  I think not.  Nor is it right or proper that your GUESTS should have to either.  You are richer than God, you purport to be dedicated to the comfort and safety of your guests, and yet, here you stand waving your righteous finger in her face saying YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. Mayhap next time it will be YOUR wife, YOUR daughter, YOUR grand-daughter in the throes of such heinous action.  Will your attitude change THEN?  I should hope and pray YOU are never in such a situation,  If you DO find yourself or your loved ones facing terror, perhaps God will show mercy and let them live.  Then what goes around comes around.  I hope you, Mr. JW Marriott, will be able to withstand and SURVIVE the hell that will surely follow.  I praise this woman and her tenacity to even FACE this crime.  Shame on you for making her your poster-child for indifference and ignorance, and profit-at-all-costs.