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Why I'm Vegetarian, But My Kids Are Not

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Wealthy Young Woman Refusing Lobster

Forget my wild youth -- until recently, my vegetarianism was my dirty little secret from my kids. For their first five years, they were unaware as they chomped through their dinners of grilled chicken or hamburgers because I always had a built in excuse. We keep kosher and since you can't mix milk and meat in the same meal, I would quickly eat something dairy right before the meat meal and then exclaim, "oh no! Mommy forgot again. So silly! I guess I can't eat dinner with you." Or I'd tell them I was full from lunch or wanted them to have all the grilled chicken because they love it so much. It took until five years of age for my daughter to point out that she has never seen me eat chicken.

Gulp.

The fact is that despite being a vegetarian, I wanted to raise omnivore children. It was less about protein or health concerns and more about social stigma. I wanted my kids to have more options at a restaurant. I didn't want them to have to answer the requisite 3000 questions that vegetarians hear every time they bring up the fact that they don't eat meat beginning with the confused, "well, then what do you eat?" I didn't want them to spend their time worrying about every ingredient in every dish, having to ask if chicken stock was in the soup or bonito flakes in the sauce.

Michael Pollan has his food rules, "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants." but mine reads a little different:

Eat food. Without too many hang-ups. Mostly what you like.

When my daughter coolly informed me that she had never seen me eat chicken, it almost sounded like a challenge. Like she wanted me to prove that I'm part of the omnivore club. I stressed more about answering this question than I would about discussing whether or not I've had premarital sex. I cringed and said, "I'm a vegetarian."

"What's that?" my son asked.

"It's someone who doesn't eat animals." My kids know that the chicken on their plate is the same as the chickens they see on the farm. Somehow explaining that they're gnawing on an animal's muscle is less scary than admitting that I don't.

"Why don't you eat animals?" my daughter questioned. My fear was that whatever excuse I used would be turned against me in the future, used to support their own future vegetarianism which they'll surely use as a place to rebel after reading this post. But I sucked it up and told them part of the truth.

"Do you know how we sometimes smell the soap at the store that looks like an apple and it smells like an apple and we joke around about eating it, but we know better than to take a bite because it's soap -- it's not food -- and it certainly won't taste like an apple? Well, that's sort of how I feel about meat. I think it smells good and I even have fun preparing it for you. But my brain doesn't recognize it as food. Maybe something is broken in me because it seems like a lot of other people can look at meat and know that it's food and tastes good, but my brain still treats it like that soap."

Which apparently made sense because they went back to eating their grilled chicken. They've brought it up a few other times, asking how to say the word "vegetarian" again and if it will always be this way for me. I didn't touch on the other reasons for why I'm a vegetarian -- the ethics, the idea of ahimsa, that I don't like my food to have once been walking around a farm -- because that gets into a grey area of good vs. bad, right vs. wrong. Discussing vegetarianism often becomes a sticky conversation because there are judgments wrapped up in the choice. If I'm not eating animals in order to be kind, is a person who eats animals unkind? See why I was so anxious to start this conversation?

Mom 101 recently discussed this idea of wanting your kids to eat differently from you. She writes, "I want my kids to model their eating habits more after Nate's (or Anthony Bordain's) than mine. I want them

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Melissa Ford 5 pts

All good questions. I always let them know when I make decisions for them why I made the choice and the choices I rejected and why. It's up to them to know all choices and make their own decisions when they're older. And the age they make those decisions depends on the decision itself.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

unmotivated yet 5 pts

make choices is good. What dress you wear to school or what cookies you like to eat is fine. Should I also give them a choice of what animals to kill to eat or what partner they should have sex with? Is my role in their life limited to letting them do what they want or making best choices for them till they are old enough to make their own? When do children learn to make choices that are rational and thought out? Till then do I just hold hands or lead the way? And what choices do I let them do because "people learn from mistakes"?

Melissa Ford 5 pts

It's true that we make choices for our kids all the time and I think a lot of it has to do with why you're a vegetarian. If it was strictly ethics for me, it wouldn't make sense to present a different ethical choice for my kids.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

GabbyGirl 5 pts

My husband and I are both vegetarian as are both our kids. I don't get the 2 issues of "having kids try new flavors" and "letting kids make choices for themselves when they're older." We make decisions for our kids all the time based on what we think is best for them despite what others may think (breastfeed even if your in-laws think it's weird, keep your kid rear facing in their car seat past the age of 1, etc.). Why if I think vegetarianism is best for me and my health would I then go on to make my kids eat meat? As for new tastes, a vegetarian diet has opened my kids up to explore a ton of new tastes. We can deviate from the kids menu at restaurants eschewing the typical burger and fries fare in favor of pasta primavera, portobello fajitas, or a veggie burger. What 2 year old do you know says "more tempeh please!" I won't be able to control what they eat at slumber parties or when they go off to college. That's fine with me. For now, I feel like I'm getting them off to a good start.

Melissa Ford 5 pts

Oh, I think saying that I don't like to see animals killed would be incredibly damaging and sway them completely to one side because what is the alternative? That they enjoy killing animals?

It would be good for them to be vegetarians if they're eating that way because it's meaningful for them, not because they followed my path. So no...no fears that I'm hampering their spiritual growth.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

Melissa Ford 5 pts

I love this point: "I want her to enjoy food, and to explore food, and to not be afraid of new flavors." That's exactly it--I just want them to eat without hangups. And hopefully, that will go hand-in-hand with healthy eating and doing things that are good for the environment.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

Annz 5 pts

I keep meaning to write about this. I'd been vegetarian (well, mostly, I eat fish) for 20 years for environmental reasons, my husband is not, but he tries to buy sustainably, ethically produced meat when possible. We decided that we wanted Zoe to be exposed to a lot of different cuisines and flavors and foods, so we've fed her a variety of meats. Zoe's been asking why I don't eat meat for a while now. I try to answer simply and honestly: it was a food I chose not to eat because it's hard on the earth to raise so many animals. But that's a difficult concept for a 3 year old.

The funny thing was, as I explained it more and more to my daughter, and thought about what I wanted her relationship to food to be: I want her to enjoy food, and to explore food, and to not be afraid of new flavors. I want her to know where her food comes from, and to make responsible choices about it. As I thought about that, I began to soften my longtime stance towards meat. I remembered many years ago saying that if it were possible to know where your meat came from and to be able to purchase meat that's been raised in a sustainable manner, then I'd probably go back to eating some meat. Well, we live in an area where it's actually quite easy to find small, sustainable farms and to educate yourself on their methods. So I've taken a few, very small steps towards introducing meat back into my diet, not much more than a serving every couple of weeks, but a huge change from even a year ago.

The funny result is that this has made it even more confusing to Zoe, since I'll sometimes eat meat with her, but still usually won't.

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Soliel 5 pts

I understand the concept of allowing your kids to choose whether or not they want to be veg.

I also understand how often, the arguments for vegetarianism, is often heavy because it deals with suffering and killing and can be guilt inducing.

However, I think you are making too much of a thing about this. I think you should simply tell your kids the truth.

You dont' have to get really deep into details. You can simply say "Mommy really likes animals and doesn't like to see them killed".

But tell the truth. I honestly don't understand this tip toeing. I think that is going to just confuse them and they know when they are not being told the truth. Kids can handle much more than they are given credit for.

And did you ever consider that it might be good for them to be veg if they decide to do so? Did you ever think you might be hampering their growth by preventing them this choice? Meat has a lot of poisens. Also, some kids are very spiritual and dont' want to engage in killing...even at a young age. Why deny an old soul this choice?

Melissa Ford 5 pts

You make a lot of really good points. We've had the same talk about keeping kosher with the kids--that it's our values and that other values are not "bad," they're just different.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

Melissa Ford 5 pts

We're already making multiple meals because everyone is a picky eater. But if I had to balance 8 people? Meals would take over my whole life.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

Melissa Ford 5 pts

We've sort of set 16 as this mythical bar for them to make all of their own decisions. We're sort of presenting them with thousands of ideas now from religion to eating habits and we're going to ask them when they're older what they want.

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

Melissa Ford 5 pts

I think so many times we just sort of do what our parents taught us to do without really considering whether it's the way we want to do things. I don't want to force my feelings about meat eating on them, but I also don't want them to be a vegetarian--it's a no-win :-)

Melissa writes Stirrup Queens ( http://stirrup-queens.com ) and Lost and Found ( http://lostandfoundandconnectionsabound.blogspot.c... ). Her book is Navigating the Land of If ( http://thelandofif.blogspot.com/ ).

KGav 5 pts

We aren't vegetarians, but we only eat meat that is raised humanely (no feed lots, no mass-produced beef, small-local farmed meat only, no hormones or antibiotics, etc.). So, because most meat in restaurants and other people's homes does not fall into those categories, we are essentially vegetarians outside of our own home.

We have a 5- and 6 year-old, and they follow this diet as well. It is definitely not the easy road, but these values are important to us and we hope that they will become important to our daughters as well. Obviously, someday they will be adults and make their own choices, but we do talk with them about the ethics (or rather lack-of-ethics) of industrially produced meat. There are ways to talk with kids about serious, weighty issues without being disturbing or graphic, though it is a delicate balance.

As for the judgement, there is no way to get around it. We don't talk about other's food choices being "bad," but we do talk about making choices that are in line with your values and how everyone has different values.

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rachelinbar 5 pts

My husband is a vegetarian and I'm not (and have no plans to become one). I think that kids should be able to choose, but I do encourage my kids to eat meat for all the reasons you said and because I think it's the easiest way to get everything your body needs to be healthy.

My 5-year-old decided, just before she turned 4, to become a vegetarian. Once in a while, she'll agree to taste something, but she never actually eats meat & to tell you the truth, it drives me crazy.

With 6 kids, it's so easy to just make them hamburgers or something and so we end up making something special for her and then the other kids want it too... Basically, we now have 2 kids (so far) who don't really touch meat. Frustrating, but I do (at least kind of) respect their choice.

midnightbliss 5 pts

i think being a vegetarian is a personal choice and i believe that kids needs a well balanced diet.but soon when they are older enough to understand, they can make their own decisions whether to go vegetarian or not.

natalied6579 5 pts

I've been a lifelong vegetarian. Not because I care about animals but because my parents raised me that way. My sister experimented with meat here and there as a child because she felt left out. She invariably got sick and the few times i have accidentally eaten meat chunks...not pretty.

When I have a child I don't know how or if I will introduce meat into their lives. I can't cook meat so my partner would have to take on that task and he doesn't really cook much at home.

It's a very good question.