
Please join me tonight as I liveblog Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin's acceptance speech as well as speeches by Cindy McCain, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee and possibly Rudy Giuliani (no one knows and no one will tell me). You can view more information on tonight's lineup at the RNC's web site.
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Lohan and Hilton to sing backup?
I'm only going to watch the acceptance speech if Lohan and Hilton are going to sing backup.
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This is one speech not to miss
This is definitely one speech I'm not going to miss. Since her camp is saying that we shouldn't be investigatingor talking about her 'motherhood' - I wonder how people will react if she addresses her situation head-on and then moves past it.
In my opinion, she is a mother, that's part of who she is and she brings that to the White House. We can't sideline the topic. There's no separation from her political/professional role and her personal role. She's 1 human being with various aspects to her life, just like all of us. To try to sweep that under the rug and 'move on' is ridiculous.
Anyway - I look forward to the liveblog!
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Definitely not to be missed...
As much as I want to respond to all the haters, I'd much rather put in a "here here" for your comment.
RNC just released this pre-announcement of
Gov. Palin's remarks
This is directly copied from my email inbox:
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Not enough vodka, tequila or corn liquor...
I just can't stand it. I can't believe that well seasoned better qualified republican women can sit there and watch this mess. Republican women who have dedicated their lives to the political process, who were passed over for this. Talk about playing politics. The RNC still has NO respect or interest in women of substance, education and commitment. Women who could have eaily in their own right ran on the ticket as President. But no, they hold this woman up as a beacon for what they believe is the ideal candidate.
I am so tired of the dumbing down of politcal engagement. I am so tired of lackluster poorly read men and women thinking they could run the free world.
I just can't bear it I say!
Love,
Babz
Babz...direct your anger at obama
Babz,
considering president bush (43) has had 3 prominent
women in his cabinet, and considering sarah palin could be the second
most powerful person in the country after nov. 4....maybe better to
direct your anger at barack and his pick of an old, tired washington
insider for VP.
dave
gocalifornia.blogspot.com
Sigh.
That "tired old washington insider" happened to write the violence against women act.
All women are not created equal. Neither are all men.
Mom-101
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sigh
mom,
well, that 'tired old washington insder' writing the
violence against women act would be one more thing than barack obama
has ever done in his 3 years in the senate. i'm still searching for one
of barack's accomplishments.....oh, community organizer....my bad.
Here's Gov. Palin's pre-announcement remarks
in Wordle.net
oo cool tool
This part of the preview, "I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a ‘community organizer,’ except that you have actual responsibilities." should just about nix independents - it's very elitist and very anti-democratic, very supportive of the aura of unitary executive - trusting and letting the one you elect replace what you hope for with what they want.
Just a note - that's been an argument I've had with my younger brother for literally decades re: do we elect people who go and do what we want them to as in, they represent our desires, or do we elect people whom we trust to use their judgement well and do what they think is in our best interest - like kids have guardian ad litems?
Reality? It's a bit of both - but when I vote, I'm voting with the former in mind - others?
Jill
Writes Like She Talks
mix of both
but the politican who represents my desires will win if I had to choose between the two. And community organizing - aka empowering a community - is definitely a desire of mine. Great example w/ the guardian ad litems!
Re: the independents and the nail in the coffin, I'm extremely interested in seeing what they have to say about that comment and the philosophy behind it. I hope they respond here.
Notions of Identity
Well what's so bizarre to me about it
Is that community organizing can be ANYTHING - it can be what Palin did to get funds for projects when she was on city council - I don't understand what leads her to think that there's no responsibility in it - I would think some of her constituents at home will have something to say on that front.
It strikes me as a naive statement that only someone who has never done community organzing might say - I don't know whether she's ever done it or not.
But again - from what we know so far about the "how" of her governing style, she isn't one to delegate - she wants it done a certain way and believes she must do it herself - that's the impression I get. So community orginazing is very decentralized - it relies on that. So I guess this may hint toward her leadership style?
I don't think any of us actually know. Yet anyway.
Jill
Writes Like She Talks
bizarre indeed lol
You say that 'community organizing could be anything - it can be what Palin did to get funds for projects while she was on city council..."
The diff being that a city councilmember is an elected position, and any 'organizing' as such would be under that rubric.
Then you go on to say it was a "...naive statement that only someone who has never done community organizing might say..."
::double take::
So which is it - you are stating first that acting as a council member counts as community organizer, then you say it's obvious she hasn't.
Who's confused here?
sorry...
...for the poor syntax in the second to last sentence. It's late and I'm tired lol.
No confusion - it's semantics and labels and
Frank Luntz
Cairny -
Fair question - my point is that the label you give the activity and what it results in (getting people on board and together to make something happen) involves responsbility no matter what you call it. Palin is trying to appropriate community organizing in a negative way - she wants to make it nasty, wrong, liberal and something people who are serious don't do.
I could not disagree more and I am surprised given her supposed involvement with a church. Don't churches and other religious institutions participate in community organizing too?
My point - which maybe I didn't succeed at making, wouldn't be the first time! - is that she wants to brand the title of certain work with a negative image when in fact it's the same thing she's most likely done and does but under a different name, all for the purpose of trying to slander that work and people who do it (i.e., Obama).
I take issue with that.
Thanks -
Jill
Glad we weren't the only
Glad we weren't the only ones who were struck by the slams on community organizing from both Palin and also Giuliani (who actually led the crowd in laughing at the idea of being a community organizer). And the Republicans call Obama an elitist?
Palin is so quick to talk about her time as a mother in the PTA - couldn't a lot of what they do be described as "community organizing" as well?
The Evil Slut Clique
Evilslutopia
hmm
Only someone who filters everything they see and hear through a prism of bias would see what Guiliani and Palin said about 'community organizers' as generally degrading or derogatory about community organizers.
It was quite plain that they were disparaging BO's trumpeting of his experience as community organizer as if it somehow qualifies him for anything - and hammering home the fact that SP was in elected office while he was still 'organizing'.
BTW - go visit those nabes where Barack Obama was a community organizer - they are as depressed and impoverished as they ever were.
BO used them, stepped on their heads as he ambitiously climbed the ladder of Chicago politics, then promptly forgot them.
PS - SP mentions her PTA stint as part of the narrative of her background, not holding it up as if it qualifies her for public office.
What is a nabe?
Here are the google results when I searched on it - I'm sorry - I don't know that term!
I don't see the distinction in how Obama says community organizing or Palin raises PTA - do you have examples of how they present it differently?
Also - I think, having been involved in both, that responsibility is endemic to both. This is a distinction without a difference that Palin has tried to make for the soul purpose of disparaging Obama.
Why that's permissible in politics when you would never allow you own kids to do it, or yourself I hope, I cannot understand.
Jill
Writes Like She Talks
nabes = neighborhoods n/t
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LOL - sorry, Jill
"Nabe" is contemporary shorthand for "neighborhood".
"There is no room in this country for hyphenated-Americanism."
-Teddy Roosevelt
I, for one, can't wait
I am looking forward to Palin's speech this evening and also Rudy Guiliani's.
Go get 'em Sarah!!!
I was not disappointed!
They both delivered mightily!
WTH??
I am really shocked at how negatively Ms. Palin has been treated. If you don't like this idea of womanhood, that's fine. Live your own idea. But just know that there are a LOT of women that identify with her strength, character, and family values. If you don't want her to be VP, don't vote for her. What good will come of tearing into this picture of womanhood? Absolutely nothing. If anything, it all just blows a huge hole into the theory that Democrats are more supportive of working women. We can now say without a doubt that Republicans and Libertarians have more respect for the working mom.
What does support mean to average fulltime
working hockey mom
I don't actually know - I am lucky - I do not work fulltime outside of the home and I'm also not a hockey mom, or a soccer mom or a security mom.
I think, and I am being sincere here, that many woman ALSO are like me and that is that they wonder how anyone sees in Sarah Palin someone who reflects the average working mom.
I've written a mom's column for over four years now. The working mothers that read my column seem to like the ones where I rave about not being perfect, about the extreme craziness we'll endure to satisfy a child, and the firmness with which we'll stand over the same child and say "no" when necessary.
With all due respect for the love many voters do seem to be expressing for the VP candidate, we've seen a lot of Gov. Palin working - but what about being a mom?
I don't buy that we can't ask about that. I agree we should not judge her - or at least tell others what to think for themselves. But if we're being asked to see her as a working mom, and we're told all about her working, then I think it's a reasonable to ask about the mom part too. As other comments have reflected - it can't be both ways - she can't be trotted out to be an emblem of working moms but then demand that no one ask her how she does it all. What's the point of having someone be an emblem if you don't get to learn how they do it!?
I would offer Michelle Obama as an opposite but I don't think that's really accurate. Likewise, Hillary Clinton's dau. is independent and an adult.
I see in Gov Palin a determined individually who uses laser focus to pursue what she wants.
I think ALL women should have the ability to pursue that ambition.
And so I want her to talk about what she has done and plans to do to support working women and mothers pursue their ambitions to the same extent she's been able to.
Esp. if anyone is going to call her average (although I get the sense the average only applies to when she's a hockey mom - when she's working, she's above average? - ok - that's kind of a play on words!)
I am thrilled that this discussion is happening - I agree that we should not bat it away. And, although I am NOT a follower of "Dr. Laura" - someone just sent this to me and I'll just graft the last graphs:
Maybe think that Palin will never be stressed out while being a woman, a wife, a hands on mom and a vice president. I can't answer that at all.
But again, if Gov Palin is a choice to symbolize what women can achieve, I want to know what she is going to do to help all women pursue their ambitions as she has been able to do.
We've heard EXTREMELY little but "how does she do it."
Jill
Writes Like She Talks
Maybe...
MAYBE that's because she's running to be VP not "working mom of the year." It seems to me we should vote based on her abilites to do the job she's running for, not on whether she can balance it all. The last job interview I had sure didn't include inquiries as to whether I would be able to handle balancing my personal and professional life. That is up to her discretion. If she has been able to handle being Governor, she must have an idea of what her abilities are. So since she is running for office, our only concern should be, what gifts, talents, and abilites can she bring to the job? Let's be supportive that a woman has accomplished all that she has! And if you doubt that or can't be, MAYBE you're just jealous??? ;)
I know my limitations
And I lost the only race I ever ran for - 18 years ago! - by one vote, after I'd tied twice so - it will be a while before I run for anything - I actually always hoped I'd be in a state where you get appointed as a result of meritocracy but well - here I am in Ohio.
It is true that EEO regs prevent pregnancy discrimination - and that's because our society doesn't, of its own accord, realize that you can't discriminate against women who are pregnant in employment decisions.
People seem to be willfully NOT distinguishing between holding oneself out as an emblem of working moms and being asked, how does she do it, and judging a person on the answer.
Gov Palin and her supporters have put the fact that she's a working mom front and center, among many other family issues. It is hypocritical, disingenuous and unreasonable to think that no one will want to know - how do you do it.
I'll tell you a story - I'm part of a group of bloggers who in 2006 interviewed candidates for all kinds of Ohio offices - including governor and secretary of state - including the current SOS Jennifer Brunner who is the parent of three adult children - in upclose settings. The on the record sessions were, as you would hope, ALL about the issues and perforrmance of these candidates. But the very first question I asked Brunner after the interview was no longer on the record was - How did you do it with kids? What worked? What didn't?
It is vital for women to learn from other women how they "do it" when they get to where a Palin is if we're all going to be able to pursue our ambition to the extent that Palin has been able to. How many women are ever able to do that?
Anyway - that's how I feel. :) Obviously. lol :)
Jill
Writes Like She Talks
And welcome!
Sorry -I just saw that you're new to BlogHer - at least in signing up though maybe not as a reader - so welcome and thanks. Good debate.
Jill
Writes Like She Talks
travel
I'd rather have a VP who had some clue about the world outside of the US. Going to Canada once is not enough. Living a bomb away from Russia is not enough. My concern is that she is provincial. This is not the person I want a heart-attack away from an elderly president. Male or female, she is no match for either of the Democratic candidates.
~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool
Palin
How did you conclude that Democrats do not support working women? I am a working mom and a Democrat-so am I against myself if I disagree with Palin's politics. I can respect her professional career and disagree with her stand on many core issues. To be honest as a working professional I made a conscious decision to prioritize my children over work. I know many women may disagree with me but I believe she was hypocritical in her critique of Obama by stating that he is in this to further himself. I disagree completely with that statement but you have to ask what made her say Yes to the VP position-knowing that she has a special needs infant and a pregnant teenage daughter. Is this "family values"? I'm not convinced.
Is it not weird Palin's speech was mostly
written before she
was nominated? She will literally be a talking head up there tonight. I know speechwriters write all political speeches but this is an extreme situation (source: NYT). What are we really going to know tonight- when she talks about policy, it's the McCain team's voice, not her own!!!
Morra Aarons-Mele
www.womenandwork.org
Outstanding point Morra
And she delivered it like the broadcast journalist that she is.
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To Babz
Pass the bottle!!!
Dave, Sugar all Black Women aren't
Angry...some are just tired.
I am neither angry or mad. I said I was tired. I know for most white folks when a Black woman speaks there tends to be this notion that we are angry. Not tonight...just tired. I don't know what you ASSumed I was angry. I don't know that woman. I do know that the republican want to win...by any means necessary.
I got nothing but love for Obama and Joe Biden. JB gets my vote because that men raised to babies on his own! How many White men can claim that!
Have drink and chill-lax! You got to be tired totting that republican water.
Love,
Babz
biden and obama
if biden were at the top of the ticket, i could see an argument where
democrats could say they have the better candidate. this election
reminds me of 1988 when dukakis had bentsen as his running mate. way
more experience on the bottom end of the ticket. obama may sound good,
but bring some substance, baby. you can only do so much as a community
organizer. i think even women in the PTA do more than that.
I personally don't care if
I personally don't care if she has more children that the Duggar family. What I want to know is what she is going to bring to the table. What has she done to impove Alaska, what are her own thoughts and beliefs on hot topics like the economy, the war, our economy, education for our children, healthcare and oh did I mention the economy.
I don't want to hear her slamming Obama, I'm sick of hearing that from both parties. I want to know her, Sarah Palin, the political side. Not anything else. And right now I am not hearing that.
I am so proud of Sarah
I am so proud of Sarah Palin. She is just....I don't know what the word is. But I like her.
Transcript of Gov. Palin's speech
Here
Kim
BlogHer Contributing Editor|Professor Kim|
Thanks Kim. My younger
Thanks Kim. My younger daughter was trying to take notes on her speech. I know she'll appreciate it.
Glad that's over
OK I watched the speech. I should have ad Babz's shopping list only had red wine. The problem is I know no more about how she will govern then I did when she showed up on Friday. Who is she? What does she stand for? I know John McCain was a POW everybody with a pulse and a TV should know that by now. What will Sarah Palin do if she is vice president actually lets be real if McCain is elected we are probaly looking at the person who will do the last few months if not years of his term. I wnted to know who she is and what she thinks.
I am going to be snarky but Barney Smith did a better job at Invesco field. Oh and does it bother anyone but me that the republican party has not heard the word diversity?
Michelle
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just asking
Do people without a pulse have TVs?
:-X
Thanks Cairny!
I really needed that laugh! I have gotten a little worked up over the last few days. MY brother-in-law is a mortician and there is a TV in the back room of the funeral home!
Michelle
I wanted to be convinced
I like her. I think she is an incredible person, who has accomplished a tremendous amount and will be a role model for generations to come. But her speech did not convince me to vote for her ticket. It felt like she was defending her right to be on the ticket by listing all of her accomplishments and what she has done. There was not enough of what she WILL do. I did not at all admire the snarky comments directed to the Obama/Biden ticket.
And most offensive of all was the shot of the guy wearing a campaign pin that read "Hoosiers for Hot Chicks" written above the pictures of McCain/Palin. I was watching CNN by the way and attempted to verify what I saw on the live blog, but my comment/question was not posted. If no one else saw it maybe I was dreaming. Please let me know. Thanks.
Ugh....
I wasn't dreaming
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26530592/
I didn't like all of the
I didn't like all of the snarky comments toward Obama/Biden either. It seemed to just be a distraction from real issues. And I didn't like her bringing up the comment of "clinging to guns and religion" which if I recall was taken totally out of context from what Obama actually said.
Besides that I still don't know her. And I really do want to know who she is politically. And her bringing up Obama's lack of experience was like the pot calling the kettle black.
I mentioned to my husband, who is an Army veteran, that while I respect and honor McCain's time in service and that he was a POW who endured horrible torture. I am a little tired of it being dragged out constantly.
not true
The 'guns and religion' comment by BO was certainly not taken out of context.
Perhaps it is his backpedaling spin that you are remembering, once the quote got out of the private meeting he thought he was having.
Do you also find the 'snarky' comments by BO tiring? Do you voice that opinion?
As far as 'being tired' of JMCc's service being 'dragged out' - well, I want to get snarky but I won't.
I'll just say that he - like your husband and hundreds of thousands of others - did it for YOU, and for me - and personally, I want to be reminded of that always.
So if torture builds
So if torture builds character and forms leaders, Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp does....what exactly?
I'm just asking.
Bitter remarks absolutely taken out of
context. How do I know?
Because MOMocrats co-founder Glennia Campbell was at the fundraiser when he said it. She recorded it on video and she wrote about it here:
http://momocrats.typepad.com/momocrats/2008/04/transcript-of-o.html
I really wish people would look at the entire context of what Obama was saying and not just focus on a tantalizing soundbite. It is important to stop this spread of misinformation.
Oh and he also talks about tax CUTS which is another thing the Republicans love to lie about.
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Palin
You know I agree with your comments. I want to know what is either ticket going to bring to the table and help turn this nation around. I have been out of work for 10 months now and I am still looking for a job and trying to find ways to bring a income in this house to help my husband.
With all the people that are out of work we need someone who will help with creating more jobs and other issues that are so important to the middle class family.
How with her comments about Obama or Biden going to help the middle class?
Hell in a handbasket
If we vote this pair into office, then get ready for America going to hell in a handbasket. I'm not talking about "hell" in a religious context, but a disturbing place for this country in history. I'm a black woman who admits she's voted Republican before, but I am in no way moved to vote Republican based on Sarah Palin, a woman that I suspect believes in Christian Dominion Theology, a belief not compatible with the separation of church and state.
For a long time I sat on the fence between Hillary and Obama, but made a choice after I watched their campaigns. I don't just trust smooth talkers. I'm not an Obama groupie, although I do think he's an admirable man and candidate.
In addition, I don't support people who attack Palin because she's a mother or suggest she can't do the job of VP because she has a child with Downs syndrome or a pregnant teen. I think it's a double standard that we should not tolerate. I think a smart, wise person can be mentored and groomed for the presidency. Nevertheless, I wonder about her judgement due to some other political baggage she's carrying.
But the whole "she's so cute .. she's perky ... she's hot" thing bothers me the same way it bothers me that folks go on about Obama's looks sometimes. What do good looks have to do with leadership?
That said, after watching Palin and Giuliani tonight, I know that this nation would be headed backward if the McCain/Palin ticket wins.
Nordette is a Contributing Editor with BlogHer.com whose personal blog is hosted on another site at this link.
Community Organizers are like Mayors---EXCEPT
we have real res..
"I BELIEVE COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS ARE LIKE MAYORS---EXCEPT WE HAVE REAL RESPONSIBILITIES!!! What an insult to all the people out there who are community organizers? In an attempt to make Barack Obama look bad this woman gave out CHEAP SHOTS all night including all the other speakers. There wasn't an ounce of substance in that speech. What is she going to do for working class people the ones who can't pay their mortgages who are loosing their homes? What is she going to do to change America in a positive way?
It burns my stomach when I hear people saying things like "Sarah Palin is a strong woman, she gave birth to a down syndrome baby, her daughter got pregnant and she did the right thing." STRENGTH! WHAT A HOOT! Listen everyone here is little peace of hard life---There are women out there today who have been raped including me, whose mother hit her so hard--the court decided to let me stay with my grandmother until I was an adult, who lost two pregnancies, who went to bed without food many nights because of lack of money--who almost got killed in a car crash--who survived to overcome many obstacles to be able to raise a family and create several businesses--went to University and create a successful life. THERE are MILLIONS OF WOMEN OUT THERE TODAY WHO HAD A HARD LIFE---SARAH PALIN DOESN'T KNOW WHAT IF FEELS LIKE TO LOOK AT HER FAMILY AND SAY--"WE HAVE NO WHERE TO SLEEP TONIGHT BECAUSE THE BANK IS GOING TO FORECLOSE ON OUR HOUSE!!
DON'T TELL ME ABOUT HARD LIKE UNTIL SHE CAN WALK IN MY SHOE. To belittle community organizers like myself and others before and after me is an insult. If you people want to know about hard life---I WANT EVERYONE TODAY TO GO TO THIER GRANDMOTHERS AND THEIR GRANDFATHERS AND SIT DOWN AND ASK THEM ABOUT THERE LIFE-- SIT DOWN WITH THE WOMEN YOU WORK WITH AND ASK THEM ABOUT THEIR LIFE! AND you come back on this blog and tell your Grandmother, Grandfather or your MOTHER AND FATHERS Story AND talk about your Friends Story you tell them what you learnt.
Many people from all walks of life can tell you stories of when they came to America how much money they had in their pockets. Many had nothing. I left America and came to Canada years ago and I had only $20 in my pocket Yes! $20 That is what hard life is. GIVING BIRTH IS NOT HARD LIFE PEOPLE---GIVING BIRTH IS A RIGHT OF PASSAGE A GIFT--NOT A BURDEN.
GOD BLESS WOMEN--AREN'T WE PASSIONATE PEOPLE!