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Sarah Palin on Oprah: I Prefer The Makeover Shows, I Think

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Count me underwhelmed by Sarah Palin, or, to be specific, the person Sarah Palin has become. Or, to be even more specific, the person Sarah Palin became to be interviewed on Oprah about her book yesterday morning.

As one of her very first supporters (seriously, I'm on the record as hoping and wishing for her Vice Presidential nomination back in February of 2008, even before the Weekly Standard), I can't say I'm in love with where she's ended up. Sure, she's a fabulous populist, a snappy dresser with a lot of attitude, and she has the right personality to drive her career well into the future with or without a political run (she told Oprah she hasn't ruled out the possibility of a daytime chat show), but I suspect I'm confused as to where the Sarah I believed in seems to have gone.

She just so...so...um...sigh. The Anchoress explains

It was like watching two lightly muzzled Doberman Pinschers, behaving because they have to, but with an undergrowl that translates, roughly, into “if we’re ever alone together in the yard, you’re going down…”

Oprah needed Palin for the ratings; Palin needed Oprah to push the book, Going Rogue; An American Life. Both endured hour of excruciating discomfort for the sake of their respective ends.

For Oprah, that "end" was a reclamation of a moderate image. Despite what good intentions she had entering into the political fray in the middle of the election cycle last year, her decision to back Barack Obama cost her the allegiance of millions of conservative viewers. Although I didn't quite believe she had conservative viewers before last summer, I have to say the sudden downturn in Oprah's influence has been astounding. I appreciate, though, that Oprah is expanding her horizons, honoring her committment and being impressively honest about what happened. And, to be honest, I appreciate that she conducted a good, if pretty basic, interview.

Gov. Sarah Palin

Palin, on the other hand, seemed like a less-than-perfect copy of the refreshingly honest, unabashedly conservative and practical, populist politician I'd come to know and love. The attitude that made her famous is still there - when allowed, she knows what to say and how to say it - as is her personality and uniquely American style (I couldn't help but sort of love that trashy-fabulous piece of fake hair on the crown of her head). And her kind innocence and pragmatic realism is still there; when she speaks of chopping wood, being separated from her husband for months at a time as he worked blue-collar jobs in the North Slope oil rigs and on crab-fishing vessels, her touching, accessible stories about discovering her son Trig had Downs's Syndrom, she seems like the same kind of person I knew grewing up in the auto-industry employed towns of southeast Michigan.

There's a reason she inspires millions of Americans without being perfectly qualified for a high-level Federal job: she's just like millions of Americans, and that reason is in the stories she tells. While I'm not keen on reinforcing Sarah's overused victim mentality (we'll get to that in a minute), I have to admit that the McCain campaign really screwed up by not allowing her to speak from her heart. On Oprah, she said the kinds of things I wished I'd heard from her so often during the campaign - that her experience with her Downs Syndrome child was real and that it colored her political position on abortion, how finding out Bristol was pregnant was not a happy moment for her family but one that wounded them to the core, taught them important lessons and brought them back to reality and how the campaign utterly failed in letting her share her experience when the pregnancy was revealed to the nation. Had she only had the chance to be free of the leash, I honestly believe most of the country would have a much different opinion of her, and perhaps, she wouldn't be suffering from the perpetual victimhood which makes up her most significant public flaw (heck, even my stridently progressive in-laws were charmed).

It makes sense to build that image into a personal brand. Americans, for all their claims of highbrow political beliefs, vote on personality, not substance. If she plans on ever running for office again, if Obama is any indication, it will matter much more how she appeared in the media and how she makes people feel than how she plans

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Vita lingus 5 pts

Or Norma  a more telling question to ask is what is it you would like the government to " protect and defend ?? Which is fine to look at and I wonder what you see is the "will to fight' and what winning means to you as a citizen and does it benefit the whole.......It would be genuinely interesting to know  what you see as using resources effectivelly?

I gather health care is something that deeply concerns you and I get the sense you FEEL that you are about to miss out or be abandoned in this regard ??... With respect I wonder whether you have lived in a war zone and  seen the health care system in the countries America is at war with...

With interest and respect

Vita lingus 5 pts

Yeah i just read a press release from the New York Times that suggests American women should only start having papsmears at 21  and of course raising the age for women to 50 not forty for breast cancer tests .. i suggest they are discussing what's in and what's out  with Health coverage for women .. That is worth you  state side girls shaking the cage about .. Very ominous ideas indeed ,,,,One needs to ask who is putting forward this stuff and how are they valuing women's health at ALL ages!!

Vita lingus 5 pts

Ah yes change takes time and people resist but we can but keep on believing it is possible too grow and change

Norma156 5 pts

I do not for a minute claim there isn't anything wrong with the health insurance system. Please don't make the assumption I'm blind to the problems.  I do know, however, that these bills aren't going to solve the problem, only make it worse.

If I had a nephew about to deploy, I'd be mad as hell the commander in chief was so obviously conflicted about what he wanted to do. Did we have an "exit" strategy in WWII. No. The idea was to win and to design the strategies to meet that goal. That, of course, takes political will and a serious commitment to the goal.

Don't you worry about your nephew in a war that's being fought half-heartedly? One that publc opinion is turning against? One where the commander in chief is obviously trying to second guess the recommendations of the people on the ground? Jeez, I sure as hell would. I'd be hopping mad. The idea should be to win...then exit.

I don't know what I hijacked or what etiquette protocols I violated. Really, I don't. I merely said that the "lies" attributed to Sarah Palin, of which no one here has bothered to delineate, pale in comparison to the lies being told by the administration. Do you suggest that I might have more appropriately discussed her stupidity and lack of intellectual heft? Or should I have discussed the stupidity and lack of intellectual heft of the thousands of people standing in line to buy her book or the millions of people who have already bought it and sent it to the top of the best seller charts.  All stupid? All intellectually light as muffins?

I'm not sure what your final comment means.  Sometimes, not often, a post in these pages interests me to the extent I'll comment. I actually thought that the reason these editors wrote posts was to elicit comments, so I thought I was appropriately participating in this system. 

Southerngirl 5 pts

Here is the thing would/could/should in the future.  As I said these are ll things that are PRECDICTED that could happen not things that are SURE bets.  I pay $139 per month for healthcare.  If I pay a 2% tax but my copays go down or my prmium stay the same I have not lost anything actually I gain in that senario, because my premiums jhave gone up well over 2% for the past 10 years.  Also hae you researched the number for if we do nothing?  I tell you from past experience that a single mom like me will more than likely DIE from a prventable disease becuse I can not afford my co-pay and feed, clothe and send my kids to college.  So Norma please stop with the health reform will bankrup us crap.  The real absolute truth of the matter is that the for-profit health system IS bankrupting us. But lets not deal with that lets start yelling about the constitution and all kinds of other BS.  

As for your dithering around comment I will borrow as you have I wish Bush had dithered before we went into Iraq.

I do agree that there is more to war than fighting becuse we have to figure out when we are done.  I have a vested interest in there being an exit strategy.  My 22 year old nephew is deploying in a few weeks I would hate for him to be deploying at 22, 32 and 42 because no one bothered to ask how we end this.  Or worse yet having to go to Dover and pick him up in a box.  No matter how honorable it is to serve I DO NOT EVER want to be seated on the front row again to the sound of taps.  Burying a 25 year-old is not OK no matter the reason. So yes dither on. We can all talk about OUR troops but the truth of the matter is these are someone's children, husband, mother, father that are there.  So norma DO NOT tell me about this war.  I have stood over that flag draped coffin as a result of Bush I and II and their lack of forethought.

As I have stated before write your own post about whatever you want to discuss but this attempting to hijack other posts' comments is very tiring.  So you have gotten all the response you will get from me.  Have a great day and do alert me when you START your own discussion and I will gladly engage until then goodbye.

Michelle

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Nordette Adams 6 pts

Whenever anyone addresses exactly what you've said, you guys fall into the same formation with the same tactics. 

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Norma156 5 pts

Although to my knowledge (which could be wrong) the latest Senate Health Bill hasn't been scored yet. The House version, however, would cost at least a trillion and other estimates have it higher. Google this stuff. It's out there if you make the effort.

As I understand it, the Senate bill will tax income at 2% for several years before health benefits kick in.You will pay this in addition to your current premiums.

The House bill contains a provision that will penalize non-payers up to $250,000 and prison time. Just think of all those jobs this new construction will create.

As I understand it, the Senate bill will cut at least half a trillion from Medicare. Do you not think this will have consequences for seniors??? And, if there is so much waste there, why hasn't it been taken care of?

We are already providing medical care for immigrants. As I understand it, this is a big reason why California is broke. And, oh, by the way, did you notice that California has decided to clip ten percent of every paycheck in addition to the other taxes?

Support for troops is not subjective. It is commonly agreed upon, by the generals on the ground, that more support is needed for troops in Afganistan. Ignoring their requests for literally months while dithering around with "exit ramps" is not supporting our troops.

The big mistake in Vietnam was that politicians didn't have the will to fight the war (regardless of the merits of the war). If Obama doesn't want to fight this war, get those boys out of there. Now. Right now and fight the war with drones, etc. BUT DON'T leave them hanging while you flit off to secure the Olympics or have a Classic Music evening at the White House the very same night the Fort Hood terrorist killings occurred.

And, yes, I agree, we're a nation of immigrants and one of the things that bothers me the most about the anti-immigrant rhetoric is that INS procedures are totally overlooked. It takes years and thousands of dollars to hire an immigration attorney. It's disgraceful. But, I'm not sure why you brought it up.

Obama swore to "protect and defend." In what area is he doing this???

Southerngirl 5 pts

Norma I think your post could be responded to if you actually have any proof of those things on that list as lies.  Do you have a crystal ball that tells you that health reform will cause the things you list.  Support for our troops is very subjective.  Your idea of support may not be the next person's idea of support.  What has this president done to subvert the constitution?  It is like the crazy line that care for alliens is against the constitution but when the constitution was written all of them were in fact immigrants.  This country was founded built and run by IMMIGRANTS.  Trace your roots and I will bet your great whomever started on another continent altogether.  Get over yourself.  You seem to come in with this crap just to throw off the topic.  The truth of the matter is all the lies in Palin's book are documented LIES.  That is not subjective.

If you think Palin is such small stuff then post your own converstion, I will be the first there to engage and debate.  But coming in to criticize helps no one as Nordette says it is really gettting OLD and TRYING.

There you go someone has responded to you.

Michelle

I blog at http://www.mommycan.blogspot.com/

Nordette Adams 6 pts

Yes, increasingly our politicians, the current President included, are being treating like celebrities. It's a fact of life that's bound to bite us in the arse. Times are changing but not everything about that change will be to our benefit, but let's hope most of it is.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

NOfreelunch 5 pts

Notice how no one even responds to this, Norma? No "progressives" on this website make any mention about the absolute travesty of this Congress and President. It's as if any questioning or criticism of politics on here has ceased to exist since last November (unless, of course, it's criticism of conservative politics).  It's pathetic, robotic, and lacks any independent, objective thought.

Oh I'm sorry, am I interrupting someone's skin care or diaper discussion?

Jesus.

BrownImani 5 pts

I watched too. It was so hyped by the media that I thought I might actually miss something significant if I didn't watch. And I am not an O viewer. And it was much ado about nothing. Sarah Palin has not changed one bit. She is more choreographed now and I thought all of her responses were canned. Every single interviewer was asking her the same questions. I knew her answers word for word after a couple of days! She is selling her books and settling some scores. I kinda believe the McCain people when they say "she lies". Oh well. I think she's gonna run for it in 2012. Her ego will not let her stay out of the fray. Unfortunately for the GOP, she will be as toxic then as she was in 2008.

Vita lingus 5 pts

Well the cynical side of me says Oprah was giving her time to reposition herself

but a fairly hollow effort that was surely more transparent and tragic than necessary to do ,,,,

But as  others here have indicated Americans may well be more interested in personalities as opposed to content when they vote...I suggest  the times are a changing and this may well bode well for you all

PunditMom 5 pts

While I am not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination, I would have been more interested in Palin as a candidate if she had any sort of background on serious political issues.  When she tries to speak about issues, all I hear is someone who seems to be parroting canned phrases and that she's not sure of their meaning.

Palin isn't interested in thinking about issues and coming up with solutions.  She's only interested in making broad, conservative statements to appeal to the base.  She is more Rush Limbaugh than actual policymaker.

Em, what did you see in her at the beginning that suggested that she is smart enough for a job on the national political scene?  I have no doubt she is going to stay on the national stage and that scares me.  As wrote at my place, I bet she's angling for Michael Steele's jobs has head of the RNC. 

And Mike Huckabee?  EE-oo.

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womenonthefence 5 pts

The only person I see when I look at Sarah Palin is Tina Fey. Seriously! Scary stuff had this woman become the VP of America.

Have a great day, Ladies.

xoxEDxox

Erica Diamond

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Norma156 5 pts

I've been astonished to see so few columns in recent weeks devoted to anything meaningful about what's going on in the country, so I was happy to discover this column this morning when I came to browse, completely prepared to click off.

While I'm not a raving Sarah Palin supporter, it is always amazing to me to hear or read liberal pap about her "lies" while at the same time supporting the current government with a straight face although I hope a somewhat guilty conscience (at least for those who have any intellectual honesty...a rarity I admit).

So, for a moment, let's look at lies (random list):

--Your health care premium won't go up

--Seniors won't be affected by cuts in medicare

--Health care to be revenue neutral

--No new taxes on people making less than $250K

--Enough time to review legislation. Postings on CSPAN, the internet.

--Bipartisanship

--No such thing as terrorism only "man made catastrophes."

--Support for troops

And perhaps the biggest lie of all:

"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Somehow I think Palin is small stuff next to this.

Megan Smith 5 pts

The interview was a letdown partly because Oprah interviewed her, as one columnist pointed out, as a celebrity instead of as a politician.  And actually under the circumstances right now, she is more a celebrity than she is a politician.

The other new thing I came away with was that I agree with you about the victimhood thing--blaming Katie Couric and everyone else for her bad image is only going to go so far. 

Finally, I think the dissection of every word of her book going on in the media right now is kind of ridiculous.  She's not running for anything.  Sure talk about the book, talk about the sales of the book, but the continuous diseection of the Oprah and Babs' interviews is kind of, enough already.

Get back to me when she's really running for something that I should know about.  I still won't vote for her, but that's when you can get back to me.

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Deb Rox 5 pts

I agree, she performed poorly during Oprah's interview, restating a very few talking points, and her only message was that she was handled poorly in the election.  So if she was handled poorly, why did she, as you say, sound stronger and with more conviction then than she does now?  Clearly the guidance, talking points and strategists helped her during the election, as much as they could.  She doesn't have anything to offer, at least not now.  I like that Piper, though.  She's got charisma.

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Jenee D 5 pts

I thought the interview was a bit boring.  ( http://cocoafly.blogspot.com/2009/11/big-snoozer-o... )We both know where they stand politically so they just played it safe with the interview. Oprah needed the ratings boost and Palin wants to sell more books.

Nordette Adams 6 pts

It screamed one thing to me. She wasn't ready for the White House not even at VP level. But then, I never thought she was in the first place.

Nordette Adams ( http://www.bookotopia.com ) is a BlogHer CE ( http://www.blogher.com/haystackprofile/viewprofile... ) & you can find her other stuff through Her 411 ( http://her411.com ).

Brianne 5 pts

I feel terribly uninformed... can you share any links about the "populist movement that's sweeping the country" with me? And why the tag 'Libertarian' was used on this post? I was under the impression that populist ideals and libertarian ideals were generally opposite of each other, so I must be missing something.

Erin Kotecki Vest 5 pts

I'll be honest. I don't get it. 

Let's take Huckabee as an example. Here's a guy that I like. Do I agree with anything that comes out his mouth? Nope. Would I ever vote for him? Nope. But does he seem folksy? Yes. This is the same thing conservatives seem to attribute to Palin and I just don't see it. Not even for a split second. And I don't get what I'm missing. 

My favorite Palin slide show came out today, with all her mis-steps. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/17/going-rog... ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/17/going-rog... )

and falsehoods. 

I feel like she can't even remember what she said last week, let alone during the campaign. And I just can't trust her. Not by the way she talks to her supporters or by the way she talks, in public, about family matters like Levi. 

Politics & News Contributing Editor Erin Kotecki Vest ( http://queenofspainblog.com/ )