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The Separation of Church & Household

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Growing up, religion was something like a big deal in our household. Both of my parents were active in the church. My father played the bass in the church’s band and my mother was always the one to help out in the nursery. We belonged to a very strict Pentecostal church and when I look back at it now, I see how people can be turned off by religion. There were so many ‘you can’t do this’ & ‘you can’t do that’ going on in the church. Women couldn’t wear pants, make-up or jewelry. Kids were to be seen and not heard. What I also noticed early on in life were the hypocrites that seem to flock to our church. I remember hearing rumors about marriages that were destroyed because of the cheating that was going on with different members of the congregation. And hell, my father was one of them. Shortly after my parents divorced, because of his indiscretions, we left that church and relocated from Upstate NY to NJ.

It wasn’t until my mother found a new church in NJ, that I finally began to enjoy going to church. I think it was mainly because it was a non-denominational church. The congregation was filled with people from all ethnic backgrounds; it was like the United Nations. There wasn’t any fuss on how you were supposed to dress; it was basically come as you are. Throughout my young childhood and teen years that church was practically my second home. As I got older and became an adult, there was a disconnect between me and the church. I didn’t feel the need to rush to Sunday service every week, but that didn’t mean I gave up on my Christian beliefs. I guess just like the choices on some dating websites when they ask your religion, I officially became a member of the “Spiritual not Religious” group. The subject of religion isn’t something that I make a point to discuss with my son.

At the age of 4 he attended a Christian school for Pre-K. One of the main reasons why I enrolled him in the school was because I knew I wasn’t big on attending church, so I figured attending a school that had a Christian focus, would be good for him to build a fundamental understanding of religion. One day while we were sitting doing homework, we were discussing something and I’m not sure if I got caught in a lie, or if I actually forgot that I mentioned something previously, but he quickly told me that I was lying and his teacher said liars go to hell. That was when my figurative record scratched. My 4 year old just told me I was going to hell. Great. That’s exactly what I wanted to hear. Eventually we had a discussion on the concept of lying and hell. I also reassured him that just because you tell a lie doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re doomed for a life in hell, that instantly.

After that year of Christian school Pre-K, he started public school. My son has been to church a handful of times with his grandmother and grandfather, but I feel that I am going to let him come to a decision about religion on his own when he gets older. Last week he brought a classmate over to play on the Xbox, and the boy told my son he was Jewish. It was interesting to hear this 4th grader explain to my son what being Jewish meant and the concept of Judaism. Considering the religious holidays are upon us, I think I may have another Sammy Davis Jr. on my hands, because now that is all he wants to talk about and learn. I’m sure this will be one of many religious taste-tests my son will have, before he settles on one or any at all. The choice is inevitably his.

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Peppermint Patty 5 pts

I did provide my daughters with something to believe in--themselves. When all is said and done the only person you can trust and rely on is oneself.

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korivin 5 pts

I totally understand your view on letting your child decide on his own about his religious views.  I was raised strict Roman Catholic and am wondering now if it has done more harm than good.  However, it is a crazy world out there, in or out of the church environment.   A strong belief system including a loving God can make a huge difference in a developing mind. Knowing the true difference between right and wrong and how to make good choices for not only ourselves but, for others is crucial. This strength that is often learned in a religious forum, can give your child the strength to withstand negative peer pressure which every child needs as well as coping skills which will aid them in life. 

I am not saying that this needs to be learned at church but, often it can be learned better coming from a  group environment. When parents don't make religion part of a child's upbringing sometimes they are lapsed in teaching the tools that help our children deal successfully with life in the real world.  

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Peppermint Patty 5 pts

"All of this is not just people being nice to other people.  This is the Power of God at work."

Nancy,

I'm quite capable of being a "nice" person on my own. I don't need the threat of hell to make me so.

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njgeiger 5 pts

Tonight I'm actually doing a devotion at our church council meeting about reasons people don't go to church. In reading through the above comments, I'm thinking you haven't found the right church.

There are many types of churches that appeal to different people. When you find the right one it is a joy to be there surrounded by other believers.

In my devotion I give true stories from people about why they don't go to church and then say this:

These were stories from interviews that happened a while ago, but when my brother is visiting today he hears the same stories. These are real stories.  Stories from real people.  People who have hurts.  People who see themselves, as far as the church is concerned, as outsiders. Jesus always welcomed people. He touched them. He healed them.      There are stories of healing in this congregation.  Plenty of them.  They happened because people reached out to touch others, and when they did, the Power of God came and there was healing.   People who were having surgery had food and love brought to their homes.  People who were troubled found someone to listen.  People who were alone found friends.  People who had to grieve discovered that they didn’t have to grieve alone.  People who had joys found others with whom they could share them.  People who had a need to help others found projects and activities through which they could channel their energies.  People whose children or parents were having problems found others who said they had been there and done that. All of this is not just people being nice to other people.  This is the Power of God at work.  It is God using people to bring healing and wholeness and cleansing into our lives.  
The love and kindness and compassion that we experience in our church are never to be hoarded among ourselves, because they are not ours to hoard – they are the love and kindness and compassion that came from the Power of God.  And if we try to keep this compassion to ourselves, to make it inward, then we have perverted it, and it is no longer the compassion of Jesus, whose healing went to the outsider.

Nancy 

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Peppermint Patty 5 pts

As my daughters grew-up, we never took them to church.  While on vacation, when they were still  to young to absorb the teachings, I did let my mom take them a few times. I knew how important it was to her to "show off" her grandchildren. I also knew she was disappointed we didn't take the girls to church, yet at the sametime relieved we didn't follow my husband's catholic up bringing. The end results are, one daughter is borderline atheist and the other has a degree in religous studies and considers herself pagen. Its always good to expose children to many of life's choices.

Brooklyn OCallaghan 5 pts

You are exactly right! I have a few friends who have told me that I should send my son to church more often, but I feel sort of hypocritical doing that because I don't attend. I think when the time comes, he'll understand more so about faith & trust from being taught right from wrong by me..then any Sunday sermon.

Gena Haskett 6 pts

My grandmother did her best to bring me in the church but the fire and brimstone approach of the pastor was not for me. That man had everyone seated inside going to hell if you didn't do this or that. He had less of a regard for those outside the church.

I don't think Jesus would have been allowed in the joint had he walked in with just a shirt and pants.

It is about faith and trust. You certainly can learn about it but in the end it is a personal individual decision. Thank you for writing this.

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