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Sexist Flap: Should Elisabeth Hasselbeck Be Angry at Bill Maher?

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I did not watch The View yesterday. Did you?

But apparently I missed quite the spat between Real Time host Bill Maher and The View’s conservative co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck.
Who confronted Maher over a joke the comedian made last February about her and CBS News correspondent Lara Logan, suggesting that Egypt trade Logan, who was then being held hostage, for the less hot Hasselbeck.

Hasselbeck was still angry. And the fight consumed most of the show. Much to the chagrin of Joy Behar and Barbara Walters. At one point, Walters tried to calm a perturbed Hasselbeck by recalling all the Baba WaWa jokes she’d had to endure.

But Hasselbeck was not amused. Or mollified.

Anyway, the drama continues. On David Letterman, Maher made more jokes about Hasselbeck saying, "I was abused. I felt like a teenage boy at Penn State." Explaining that Hasselbeck "had some kind of bug up her ass." Then today Fox & Friends weighed in with Gretchen Carlson calling Maher's comment "stupid" and demanding a boycott of his new book.

It’s all a bit much.

In any case, I have questions for you: Was Maher being a sexist jerk? Or just doing what comedians do, which is make fun of public figures and try to drum up attention? Was Hasselbeck making a mountain out of a molehill when she commandered The View for her own personal grudge match? Or was she justified in calling Maher out? And why did most of the media get a key fact about Logan’s sexual assault wrong? Thereby confusing matters even more?

I'll be eager to hear your thoughts!

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Dr. Mary Kennedy 5 pts

I wish I had seen the clip--Bill Maher is supposed to be a great friend of Ann Coulter, even though they disagree on nearly everything. Maybe they never talk politics?

ywonderworks 5 pts

She had every right to be angry but how she handled herself, spoke more about her low EQ than his

Alexandra Bartologimignano 5 pts

Hostage-taking, rape, degradation-- gee, it all sounds so funny! Maybe he can laugh at cancer victims next....

WordNerdSpeaks 8 pts

Is Bill Maher sometimes an arrogant jackass? Absolutely. I sometimes applaud his viewpoint, but just as often, I find his tendency to disregard other opinions as valueless to be unnerving.

My take on Elisabeth Hasselback, though, never wavers. I find the woman to be utterly offensive, childish, and ridiculously narrow-minded.

Burning Woman 6 pts

You inspired my first post & a clarified timeline inspired the rewrite: http://www.blogher.com/funny-side-rape.

Thanks again!

deloresje 6 pts

I saw the show that day and felt empathy for Elizabeth H. Bill Mauer is arrogant and inappropriate. I know people think he's funny but the arrogance takes away from the humor to my taste. The comment he made with regard to the exchange was very inappropriate and trivialized the hostage situation while putting down Elizabeth. Do you really have to take that if you're a public figure? Do comedians really get away with saying anthing because they are comedians? I know, I know--free speech. OK, I get that. But where is taste, integrity, and human kindness? Obviously, it's anything goes for humor these days. I was happy she called him out and it was great to see him squirm, oh and did his arrogance show...almost a pout. I think it was sexist and partisian too. Good for Elizabeth.

faitharama 5 pts

I can't believe he'd joke about the Penn State situation. Child molestation is just not funny. I don't care about The View or any of these people personally-- I do care about victims of real abuse.

DinaRuns 8 pts

I do not think the joke is sexist and it really was not even offensive. If you are a public figure, you have to have a thicker skin. It seemed uncomfortable for everyone the way Elizabeth went after Bill and I doubt the audience appreciated it.

anneisanne 9 pts

I can't blame her for being mad; I certainly would be as well. However she is in the public eye, and people make fun of people who are in the public eye... HELLO!? Thanks to both of them for some more infotainment. Woo freaking hoo....

The most sexist thing here is how the relevance of one woman being "less hot." Maybe I'm missing the point. But Hesselbeck or Hasslebeck or whatever is plenty hot to me, and I don't see why that should come up with a kidnap/rape/whatever victim is cited. It makes me want to hop in the shower. Yuk!

sfbentley 5 pts

Bill Maher is an insufferable jerk. I have never liked nor thought him funny. I like Elisabeth and her political position is right on. There are too many liberals who think anything goes. (This includes Ba-ba Wawa and Joy Behar.) His insults are sexists and not amusig.

kell_gill 9 pts

How are Hasselbeck and Maher even relevant? He's a sexist, insensitive prat, she's whiny and hypocritical. Bah. It must have been a slow news day for this to get picked up. Surely there are more important things going on in the world?

Mona Gable 10 pts

kell_gill There are more important things. Absolutely.

Elisa Camahort 24 pts

Burning Woman Thanks for sharing that post. The more I think about it, the more grossed out I get about Maher.

Rita Arens 53 pts

Half the time I agree with Bill Maher and the other half I'm hiding under the couch cushions to keep from screaming when he says something sexist or racist. Which he does, all the time. That's his schtick, he's politically incorrect, but sometimes I think he secretly thinks he's totally not -ist anything, which is sad, because he is.

I can't stand Elizabeth Hasselbeck and I didn't hear the joke, but I don't know that jokes about trading anyone being held hostage against their will in a foreign country for anyone else is cool. There is so much to make fun of in politics -- he shouldn't have gone there. Whether or not Elizabeth should've co-opted the show to me depends upon whether or not she was taking personal issue with it or feminist issue with it. If it were feminist issue, even though I can't stand her, I say go for it.

Mona Gable 10 pts

Rita Arens I'm ambivalent about him too, for the same reasons. As for Elisabeth I find her extremely annoying. She tried to argue that she was speaking for "all women" when she chastised Maher for his lame joke but only when no one took her side. (Not even the audience.) So much for using feminism to get out of a jam.

tyskkvinna 7 pts

He's grating, she needs to learn how to get a thicker skin for the business she works in.

bonstewart 8 pts

Was Maher being a sexist jerk? Maher usually IS a sexist jerk, unfortunately. I have appreciated a few of the things he's stood up to say over the years, but overall, he's taken the Dennis Miller road of conflating humour with license to be a jackass.And Hasselbeck? I think she was perfectly right to call Maher out...but she's a soapbox hack of her own stripe and doesn't seem to know how to scaffold any conversation to a broader level, so...yeh. Train wreck on both sides.

Mona Gable 10 pts

bonstewart Train wreck is the perfect description.

Nobody wants to be Ethel 15 pts

I used to think Bill Maher was funny, but not anymore. That is how he rolls. I don't watch him any more. I do think that Elisabeth needs to chill. She needs to take the high road and stop reacting to everything and everyone who offends her.

Conversation from Twitter

chemobrainfog
chemobrainfog

blogher THERE is nothing funny abt Penn St mess. Some things shd b OFF limits even 4 most irreverent comics. Kids being abused NEVER funny.

monalgable
monalgable

chemobrainfog That bothered me too.

chemobrainfog
chemobrainfog

monalgable TY.... I know ppl get sketchy abt letting comics be comics, but some things r so wrong. kids? AND witnesses? it OUTRAGES me.

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Marla Baxter Sanderson
Marla Baxter Sanderson

Yes, Melissa I agree. I might add, there is nothing worse than someone who rides on the back of a true victim. Trying to "share her pain" to speak to all women is the worst. I'm pretty certain that Lizzie spends little time worrying about Lara Logan or can imagine the pain she has had to endure. I bet their only connection was thanks to Bill's "not so funny" joke. Disingenuous, indeed.

Melissa McLaughlin Tingley
Melissa McLaughlin Tingley

Why is it that Republicans only have a sense of humor when Ann Coulter says that liberals should be killed for their views?

Hasselbeck's hiding behind "speaking for all women" is disingenuous; designed to elevate her position from the whiny and self-involved. The only person's opinion that really counts in this matter is that of Lara Logan. Hasselbeck needs to get over herself and realize that she is not the victim here.

Marla Baxter Sanderson
Marla Baxter Sanderson

sorry...absent.

Marla Baxter Sanderson
Marla Baxter Sanderson

He's a comedian. I don't like everything he says. But then, I don't like everything that any of them say. Whether he is funny or the joke was funny, is beside the point. He is a comedian. This is how he makes his living. If Elisabeth had a problem with the joke, she could have and should have confronted him personally right after it happened. Something tells me Bill would take her call. What I have a problem with is she has taken the joke out of context, wrapped it up in her little brain and spit out a faulty timeline because she thought it would embarrass him. It backfired. I noticed that Elisabeth was abscent on Wednesday, yesterday, and she was extremely subdued today. Someone said something to her. Expressing her view of his comedy is not the issue. It was the way she went about it. She was disrespectful and childish. Watch SNL in the next couple of weeks. Something tells me they will have a View sketch about that one. Elisabeth will not come out on top just as she didn't Tuesday. It is obvious she planned the attack and was very proud of herself. My guess is, no one else was proud of her.

Sally Greenfield
Sally Greenfield

She is a fool and he is a jerk. Makes for good tv drama, I guess.

Julie Mabee Santopietro
Julie Mabee Santopietro

Bill Maher IS a comedian..and Elizabeth is ridiculous...she could have made her point and moved on..instead she kept throwing out little digs everytime he spoke. Poor planning that she was even sitting next to him..she should be thankful that his last show of the season was last week..I would have enjoyed him mentioning her in the NEW RULES somehow..lol

Terri Patillo
Terri Patillo

Bill Maher is not a comedian -- he's an idiot and I think Elisabeth had every right to rip him a new one.

Alisha Brignall
Alisha Brignall

Not a fan of Elisabeth so I can not comment due to my bais of really disagreeing her (and not watching the view because of her)

Nelle Douville
Nelle Douville

Not my kind of humour, but comedians generally like to stir up shit. If it were me, I'd not sit around and moan, I'd come up with a line about him - anyone wish to claim Maher is wildly handsome?

After watching the outrage over comments left and comments right, I'm at a point now where I see the better option as blocking my ears, or redacting the memory of their inanity.

Gwen Stackler
Gwen Stackler

Tasteless and was just hyped up to build controversy. We all know that Controversy = $$.

Jennifer Zupko Spaeth
Jennifer Zupko Spaeth

Seriously? She is a petulant child. She is STILL holding a grudge? GET OVER IT! I am fine with anyone making fun of her. She is an idiot and has a WAY too high opinion of herself. I am not a Bill Maher fan either, he has an ego larger than the sun and should be taken down a few notches but he actually has a brain. She is no match for him in an argument.

Yolinda Carroll
Yolinda Carroll

I Don't Like Elisabeth Hasselbeck.She don't like BLACK PEOPLE.That is why I don't watch the View.

Allison Currie
Allison Currie

I think Hasselbeck is a child who lives in a very cozy protected world of her making where things are just so. she often displays outrage and childish behaviour that is far beyond the situation. He's a comedian and we laugh at comedians making fun of every size, color, race, stereotype and situation so why is it offensive that it was a woman joke? If I was offended and outraged at every comment that I found ignorant I wouldn't have much time to actually live my life.

Karen Cage
Karen Cage

He has a right to say what he wants. She has a right to support or dismiss his words. And I have a right to turn off any broadcast that airs the words that comes out of his or her mouth. That being said there is nothing funny about the Penn State situation and time won't heal that wound-so it isn't a comedic topic. Have to agree w/ Tracy about Elisabeth. That girl amazes( and not in a good way) me with her claim to fame resulting from a stint on Survivor! Hmmm...

Suzy Aaron Riccon
Suzy Aaron Riccon

Marla pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. Maher makes his career by saying outrageous things, some of which crack me up and some of which make me cringe. I'm not sure what Elizabeth is known for except being on Survivor and throwing hissyfits.

Deb Gray
Deb Gray

I think people are not so much commenting on Bill's joke, as edgy as it may have been, rather Liz's piff poor unprofessional, bratty behaviour. This is NOT good role modelling behaviour a mom should be doing for her children. Hopefully they will grow up better mannered and more polite than her.

Tracy Bacher
Tracy Bacher

Personally, I think he's a comedian. That's that. Sometimes they overstep their boundaries and cross over into uncomfortable/inappropriate topics and say things they shouldn't. They say things they probably later regret: sometimes things that were written by staff writers, even. Sure, he could apologize for the tasteless remark about Penn State, but the way Elisabeth handled him and claimed to be speaking "on behalf of all women" made me sick to my stomach. I do not need that twit speaking on my behalf ever. Never ever ever.

BlogHer
BlogHer

Those of you who don't have a problem with Bill's joke about Elisabeth - do you also think his joke about feeling like a boy at Penn State was funny? Or even acceptable, if not funny? - Denise

Tracy Bacher
Tracy Bacher

Elisabeth is a petulant, anti-intellectual, immature brat. I think he handled her childish griping quite well.

Marla Baxter Sanderson
Marla Baxter Sanderson

As usual, she had her timeline all screwed up. He didn't know the severity of what happened to Lara at the time he made his original joke. I didn't think the joke was funny, but it was a joke. They don't all tickle every funnybone. I thought she handled herself so unprofessionally that it was disgusting. She has a right to judge what is funny for herself, just as we all do. But she doesn't have the right to bully a guest like she did. She was unprofessional, rude and childish.....about a joke that was delivered back in FEBRUARY. And at the end of the show, I really had no idea why she was mad....other than he mentioned her name in a joke. It is amazing how much trash she throws at others, but doesn't like it one bit when that trash is aimed at her. Bill Maher is extremely edgy and not always really funny. But he didn't deserve to be treated badly by a girl acting like he wrote her name on the High School bathroom wall. She could have made her point (still not sure what that was) and moved on. But instead, she did what she always does.....flirts with him, places her arm around his shoulders on the couch, touches him all the while she is calling him "Billy" and trying to eviscerate him. She isn't smart enough to eviscerate many people. She wanted to embarrass him, but she ended up embarrassing herself. Bill handled himself as well as he could in that interview. He's not everyone's cup of tea, but he said nothing during that interview to warrant such treatment. He was there to sell a book, not even plug his show.

Sandra Eye Martinez
Sandra Eye Martinez

I agree with Elisabeth!! It's wrong

Deb Gray
Deb Gray

She needs to be fired. There are many other good Christian republican women who would behave much more professionally and take the high road

Deb Gray
Deb Gray

Maher made the joke BEFORE it was known to be an assault. Get the facts straight people.Liiz was a spoiled petulant brat. It was almost a year ago. He was a guest on the show and she threw a tantrum, cut off her colleagues and her boss. Rude and disrespectful to everyone.D'uh.

Tina DaBella
Tina DaBella

Bill Maher is very annoying. He thinks he is an expert on everything, and know nothing. He crosses every line and nothing is off limits because of his warped opinion of his own self-worth. He does and says controversial things in the hopes of keeping his name in the public. Without it he would be an unknown

Amber Cessac
Amber Cessac

He is so full of hate. I wonder what happened to him in his early life to make him so angry and sad.

Wanda Staton Galloway
Wanda Staton Galloway

Bill Maher is a disgusting man! I pity the woman who kisses his mouth! Blek! He uses it for filth & ugliness!

Aimee Cooper Cantrell
Aimee Cooper Cantrell

I agree with you. The jokes aren't funny and she had a right to be angry with him. It's SO easy for him to make what he calls jokes on his own show, but when someone calls him out on it, he squirms. There's no line he won't cross in thie name of his warped sense of humor. He's sick.