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Not Enough Jobs: Should We Encourage Those Who Can to Retire?

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I’m a retiree with no plans of ever again entering the paid work force, but I’m nonetheless really worried about the grim unemployment statistics. I worry about the young people in my life who might be facing long-term joblessness, and I worry about the consequences for our society.

Should we do more to encourage those older works who can afford it to retire and make room for young workers?

Job Fair Held At A Jewish Community Center In Brooklyn

My decision to retire was based primarily on my own exhaustion and longing to do something different with my life, not on an altruistic desire to make room for younger workers. But although altruism did not drive my decision, I was happy to make room for a younger teacher who would bring fresh ideas and energy to the classroom. There are too many young teachers out there who can't find jobs.

Don Peck’s article in the March 2010 Atlantic points out that the problem of long-term joblessness is the not just a consequence of the current recession but rather of fundamental changes in the structure of the economy. Peck describes the consequences of our jobless recovery -- if it is indeed a recovery:

The effects of pervasive joblessness —- on family, politics, society -— take time to incubate, and they show themselves only slowly. But ultimately, they leave deep marks that endure long after boom times have returned. Some of these marks are just now becoming visible, and even if the economy magically and fully recovers tomorrow, new ones will continue to appear. The longer our economic slump lasts, the deeper they’ll be.
If it persists much longer, this era of high joblessness will likely change the life course and character of a generation of young adults —- and quite possibly those of the children behind them as well.

The grim picture includes research based in my home town of Philadelphia. Peck cites the work of sociologist Kathryn Edin:

Communities with large numbers of unmarried, jobless men take on an unsavory character over time. Edin’s research team spent part of last summer in Northeast and South Philadelphia, conducting in-depth interviews with residents. She says she was struck by what she saw: “ ... The social fabric of these places is just shredding. There’s little engagement in religious life, and the old civic organizations that people used to belong to are fading. Drugs have ravaged these communities, along with divorce, alcoholism, violence."

Peck’s article is a powerful warning but short on solutions. The Obama administration is doing the right thing with investment in green technology and pressuring banks to start lending to small businesses, but it clearly isn’t going to be enough.

In addition to job creation, we need to think more creatively about job sharing, such as the ideas about work sharing reported by Robert Pollen in his recent Nation article: 

In the same vein are work-sharing programs that extend unemployment compensation to workers who accept reduced hours that then enable their companies to avoid outright layoffs. Indeed, work-sharing can be even more effective and fairer than traditional unemployment insurance, since it spreads the reductions in work hours across a wide group of workers rather than concentrating the effects of the recession on the minority of workers who become completely jobless. Work-sharing programs have long been a major part of the social safety net in Western Europe. Over this recession, Germany has been especially aggressive in extending these benefits to prevent rising unemployment.(my emphasis)

We need to spread the jobs around. Lowering the age at which one is eligible for Medicare might make some older workers decide to retire. Our society has been pushing workers to stay in the paid work force by gradually raising the age at which they are eligible for full retirement benefits. But either we pay more in Social Security and Medicare by encouraging older workers to leave the workforce or we’ll be paying more in unemployment compensation -- not to mention the range of social ills resulting from a generation of young people who can’t find steady employment.

European societies have historically encouraged early retirement to make room for young workers. With plunging birth rates, some European societies are rethinking generous early retirement policies. But the United States, with its relatively youthful population, is in a position to move in this direction.

I hope some of my seventy-something friends who are still teaching aren’t reading this, but I think re-instituting the mandatory retirement age for college

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kbojar 5 pts

My My,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments on my post. Our situation is very different from the Philippines. I don’t know anyone in my age group(60’s) who expects their children to provide for them. In fact many of us are still supporting our 30 and 40 something adult children.

You and others have many good ideas for addressing these problems, but there doesn’t seem to be the political will to do much.

Karen Bojar

http://www.the-next-stage.com/

mymyupshaw 5 pts

First of all, thank you, Karen for posting such an intellectually-stimulating topic. I just joined BlogHer and this was the first topic I saw and it immediately caught my attention.

I agree so much with all that camisa had said, and that last paragraph that Candelaria Silva wrote also left a big impact.

I really don't have anything tremendously smart to say, except to share the point of view of somebody coming from a different culture. I am from the Philippines and in our country, this is also a cause for concern. In our culture, the moment a son or a daughter graduates from college and lands her first job signals the potential early retirement of the parents. This is how we are taught to show appreciation and gratitude for all our parents' hard work and sacrifices from childbirth, to raising us, all the way to putting us through college. However, the unemployment rate in our country also had dramatically escalated over the last decade that the older citizens have no choice but to keep working way beyond the retirement age.

So I'm gonna say that in the ideal scenario, parents or grandparents should be able to retire early just because their children start taking on the role of providing for them because they deserve it; they've worked hard to raise their children and they deserve to be taken care of once their children are capable of doing it.

At the same time, like I mentioned earlier, I agree so much with camisa in that there still has to be a good and stable retirement plan or safety net for those who choose to retire, regardless of age, whether they have children to take care of them or not. The option to retire early should be available to them. In our country, neither is there a reliable retirement plan nor are there enough jobs for the fresh graduates, and retirement has become an elusive privilege enjoyed only by the wealthy. So the older folks who manage to hold on to their jobs, keep holding on to it until they see one or all of their children become stable in their careers--which again is another challenge all by itself.

So I think the government should work on resolving these two issues separately--the issue of unemployment, and the issue of providing a stable retirement plan.

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Kathy1732 5 pts

I agree that mandatory retirement isn't a good idea. I have to say when I read about "older" employees making room for younger ones, my stomach works its way into knots. As someone who went through several career before finding something I love, I don't want to retire anytime in the foreseeable future. And while characterizing that desire as somehow selfish in terms of the next generation has given me much to think about, I can't help but feel like such "selflessness" is ageism in another guise. Our society has been youth focus for my entire life, isn't it to begin to turn that around and recognize that aging does bring some gifts that allows greater contributions?

kbojar 5 pts

Reni, you and others are convincing me that mandatory retirement for college teachers isn’t a good idea, but incentives for those who would like to retire (e.g. lowering age for Medicare eligibility) makes sense to me.

Karen Bojar

http://www.the-next-stage.com/

Reni Gibney 5 pts

Karen, I agree that the desolate unemployment landscape cited in Peck's excellent article raises compelling questions of distributive justice. However, I don't agree that mandatory retirement based on age is the corrective. My concerns would include the inherent ageism underlying such a solution, and the likelihood that some institutions would welcome a chance to jettison more expensive older workers in favor of establishing lower and lower salary floors, and the fact that the economic situation of older workers (including college teachers) varies considerably. Additionally, the experience of EU countries has been a mixed one with regard to age and employment, with some countries having at least until recently offered incentives for experienced older staff to stay on in some capacity. I agree with Krugman about the need for a vigorous economic stimulus directed to job creation, but the special situation you raise of young persons trying to enter academe probably wouldn't be addressed by such a stimulus. In my judgment the larger issue in college hiring isn't that older workers are staying on but that new hires are coming in as poorly paid adjunct faculty. But that's a whole other blog post!

kbojar 5 pts

Mary, thanks for link to New Yorker article.

You are making a good point about mandatory retirement. Yes, "there's too much variation in aging and in need to mandate based on something that could very well be unrelated to job performance."

That used to be dealt with in the case of college professors by keeping the productive ones on in an emeritus position. I realize that leaves the decision in the hands of the academic institution rather than the tenured professor

Karen Bojar

http://www.the-next-stage.com/

kbojar 5 pts

Our society once saw full employment as a realistic goal—-the Humphrey Hawkins bill. Candelaria, thanks for reminding us of this.

Now the highest goal is simply reducing the unemployment rate.

I realize that sadly many can not afford to retire, but for those who can there are so many volunteer opportunities so retirement does not need to be “a form of disappearance from society’s consciousness when you're no longer at the table."

Also the question of being able to ‘afford’ retirement is very subjective. There are those who say they can’t afford to retire because they want to maintain an upscale life style. Others mean they can’t afford to put food on the table

Karen Bojar

http://www.the-next-stage.com/

Mary Conway 5 pts

Karen --
This is a very interesting idea; we do need creative solutions to this problem and job sharing sounds promising.
The spectre of so many young folks unemployed as a way of life is chilling. A recent book review in the New Yorker points out that while some believe that money and material goods are the keys to happiness, recent research in Happiness Studies reveal that the only consistent predictor of happiness across cultures is meaningful employment. I imagine that as one's life goes on, this really changes, so I expect the memory of meaningful employment, or half-time, could be as powerful (at least that's my plan as I garden, write, surf, learn Madarin, etc. in my retirement). In contrast, a young person who never knows the experience? That is a sad prospect.
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/02/27/060227...

And -- I must disagree about the mandatory retirement age being re-instituted. I think there's too much variation in aging and in need to mandate based on something that could very well be unrelated to job performance.

Anyway -- really enjoyed the thought provoking article!

Candelaria Silva 5 pts

How about full-employment? How about rethinking how jobs are definied and determined?
I am retirement age for some people and I can't afford to retire and further-more don't want to retire (it can be a form of disappearance from society's consciousness when you're no longer at the table).
I have, howver, stepped into a less responsible position by working for myself. I just fixed breakfast this morning for a young Executive Director who wanted to talk to someone with experience to figure out the conundrum he is in.
I do hear you about how dangerous it is to have large #s of unemployed people - especially men - but I think there are other systems that have supported this happening. I see work around me every day that needs doing but that just isn't getting done because of how jobs are created and who determines what is valued enough to pay for. For example - the infrastructure in a city like Boston - old highways, bridges, public transportation - things need repairing but there's no money to pay for it.
As for money, money is a false construct that we've agreed to believe in. It only has value because we agree it has value. I do think there's a way to imagine a society with full-employment where all the jobs that need doing get done by everyone who wants to and is able to do them.

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kbojar 5 pts

Camisa, You are making some really good points and of course in a free society no one should forced to retire early.

But should people be able to hold on to jobs in their mid-70’s and early 80’s—-as is the case in my former place of employment?

Should our society do more to incentivize (ugly word) early retirement?
Lowering the age of eligibility for Medicare could be a powerful incentive.

Karen Bojar

http://www.the-next-stage.com/

camisa 5 pts

The below is just my opinion:

I agree in theory that older workers should retire to make way for younger workers. HOWEVER, I don't think there is any way to realistically make this work.

First of all - what are the criteria for determining whether an older worker has enough to retire on? Who will make this decision?

What if the older worker has some catastrophic event in his/her family (health, death, etc) and must work again....but left the workforce to make room for the younger worker. Is this person left to fend for him/herself...or will there be some sort of social safety net (and I'm not talking about Social Security).

Finally - remember all those older workers who did retire / were close to retirement when the economy collapsed....and now have little to retire on, necessitating their return to the workforce.

I just don't think this kind of plan is doable absent some sort of meaningful social safety net (and I can't imagine that such a plan would go over very well in the current political climate).

Edited to disclose that I am mid-career (40s), not quite an older worker yet.