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Sleeping with the Enemy?: An Interview with Tucker Max

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Last week, Laurie challenged me to write about Tucker Max for Blog Day, which is tomorrow. I thought that was a brilliant idea, once I realized that she didn't mean Tucker Carlson. (It took me a few hours.) Word on the street was that Max was a misogynist pig who wrote about his sexploits and treated women as objects, so of course I disliked him, although I never read a word of his. However, as part of my research, I felt I should check out his website and probably also read his book, I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell.

When I read the first story, something unexpected happened: I couldn't help but like the asshole. Is he a drunkard? Totally, and I am not too keen on slobbering drunks. Is he a shithead? For sure. Would he probably rate me on his vile "Tucker Max Female Rating System" as "a common stock pig?" Likely, although on a good day, I might make "Respectable pig," neither of which I particularly appreciate being called. Is he a good writer? Now that I am learning about what makes good writing, I also think he is an excellent story teller, but a terrible writer. When I guiltily confessed my appreciation for Max on my blog, my friend Sara, a self-respecting feminist, commented that she used to read him and laugh her head off, too.

It was the details that won me over. Max wonders why more women don't demand to be treated with respect, or even believe they deserve to be. I often ponder this mystery myself. Max also astutely observes that the least self-confident women are often the ones wearing the most make-up and fewest articles of clothing. Interesting. Plus, Max mocks himself as much as anyone else, and often his stories end with fitting and hilarious bouts of poetic justice. In the end, I find his stories contain a lot of attention-getting bluster, but also serve as morality tales for these times. Plus, I love gross humor.

Anyway, after I requested a book for review, Max emailed me and offered to sit for an e-interview. Here's the fascinating result:

SR:You boast that 30-40% of your fans are female. How do you react to compults (compliments that are also insults) from women like The Chase is On who writes:

Believe it or not, I actually like Tucker Max. I really like him. Sure, he’s an asshole, but he’s the first to admit it. Yeah, he behaves like a frat boy, but at least he’s an educated, analytical frat boy. True, he’s malicious and evil, but only when he’s completely wasted and egged-on. And whether he likes it or not, his book is the perfect manual for ladies who want to understand manipulative douchebags like himself. Hey, it wasn’t just dudes that got him on the NY Times Best Seller List.

TM: I am usually a fan of a good portmanteau, but "compults" is not making the cut.

To answer the question: I like it anytime anyone writes anything about me. The only thing I ask is that if they are stating facts, they be accurate. I am definitely from the PT Barnum School of PR: I don't care what you say about me, just say something.

SR: You are a self-described "raging dickhead" and "asshole" who doesn't deal with the consequences of your actions, and yet you also repeatedly suffer from poetic justice and karma. Do you think your writing is misunderstood by many of your fans?

TM:Of course it is. My writing appeals to many different people, so it is to be expected that some will only get certain parts of it. I can't count how many emails I have gotten that say things like, "I have never finished an entire book before I read yours." Those types of people aren't necessarily stupid, but I am guessing they don't get the Pericles or the Finneaus Gage references, instead focusing on the most obvious level of humor: the fart and poop jokes, the gratuitous sex stories, the witty one-liners. I don't write my stuff geared towards any single group; I just write what I do, and put my personality in it, and because I am a multi-faceted person, my stuff has layered meanings. I think even a casual reading of my stuff reflects that. Of course you can just take the sex and

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A Elliot 5 pts

I have to say that it wasn't until you started talking about him at the Jersey Shore that I thought I should go investigate his blog. I enjoyed reading the interview.
A. Elliot ( http://www.flexibleparenting.com )

Working Girl 5 pts

I haven't read the book...but did read some stories on the blog a few months ago. Funny shit --pun belatedly intended. Distasteful? Yeah, sure. But who am I to judge with some of the stories I tell?

Suzanne 5 pts

When I read over the transcript, I decided to edit that question out for a variety of reasons. First, I felt it was a mistake to subject Sad Billionaire to such scrutiny without asking her if I could link to her. Not that Tucker could not have found her blog otherwise, but it seemed unfair to present this without giving Sad Billionaire a chance to respond. (And who knows? Maybe she would not have cared anyway, but why risk it?) Whether I agree with Max's response or not, the point of BlogHer is to bring attention to women bloggers in a positive way, and this clearly didn't achieve that goal.

Second, I also thought the question itself was not a good one, and as such didn't yield nearly as interesting an answer as some of the other questions did. In the end, who cares what horrible things people have called Tucker Max? Asking that brought no insight into anything, and since it was a bad question, no answer would have done so.

It was a question that didn't really pan out, and that's why I cut it.

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Tucker Max 5 pts

You left out my favorite question!

The question: On the flip side, The Sad Billionaire at Fluffy Dollars (http://fluffydollars.blogspot.com/2006/04/annoying... ( http://fluffydollars.blogspot.com/2006/04/annoying... ) ) called you a "heinous douche bag" as an introduction to a harsh critique on culture and sexism. Do you get protesters at your appearances? What's the worst thing you've been called?

My response: You thought that critique was harsh? I read that article for the first time off your link, and I laughed out loud at it. It was the definition of awesomely bad. Look at this sentence, "This brings us back to the theme of a renascent masculinity spreading its odium over the contemporary cultural field," which in beautiful symmetry, came only a paragraph after she accused me of being "highly contrived and utterly unimaginative." If only I could find ways to fit words like "renascent" into my stories, maybe then I could have a Marxist Literary Critique blog no one read or cared about! Every time I read a sentence like this, "masculinity's symbolic matrix that allows us to see the deep links between capitalism, machismo, the subordination of women and class struggle," I am reminded of the line in The Big Lebowski, "Your revolution is over, Mr. Lebowski. Condolences. The bums lost. My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose." Oh yeah--she also compared the themes of my writing to Nazism. Like I said: Awesomely bad.

But no, alas, I don't get much hate mail, and never once had a protester (but I do get death threats, and I have several stalkers, mostly male). What the fuck is someone going to protest? That I get drunk with my friends and have sex with women...just like everyone else my age? I'd bet the crowd that opposes that would be a blast to hang out with. What's the worst thing I have been called? I have been called pretty much everything that it's possible to be called, and as I sit here and write this I honestly can't think of anything that stands out as the worst. I have to care about what these people say before I start ranking the pain of their statements.

Heather Clisby 5 pts

Thanks, Suzanne! I especially liked: "It doesn't matter how much angsty poetry and angry screeds you write, the facts of biology aren't going anywhere."

Whenever I'm confused about male/female topics, I always go back to biology. It helps.

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Tasteslikecrazy 5 pts

The only article that I have ever read of Tucker Max's was a piece concerning butt sex and how his roommate fell out of the closet. [It was actually very funny]

But, I have to admit that I never went back to read him again.

Your interview cast a new light on Tucker Max for me.

He comes across as an intellegent, articulate person and I was pleasantly surprised by those facts and I plan on checking out his blog again and the blogs that he suggested.

Thanks for the great interview.

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