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Parents Are Still Conflicted About Vaccination Schedules

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Vaccines and, more specifically, not vaccinating are in the news again today. USA Today reported on a new study in Pediatrics that13% of parents are either not vaccinating their kids or using an alternative immunization schedule. The study shows that "even among parents who fully vaccinate their children, 28% believe that an alternate schedule -- which spaces out vaccines to avoid giving several shots at once -- is safer."

The article goes on to say that it's not safer -- for the general public. While the article says that skipping doses or spacing out vaccines increases the risk of illness, parents are simply conflicted. There's a lot of information out there, and it's hard to know who to trust. Jo-Lynne Shane at Musings of a Housewife hits this conflicted train of thought perfectly in her recent post about vaccinations. Her post shows the back-and-forth that many of us who fall somewhere in the middle of the road feel about this topic. This is not a post filled with "this is the way to do it" type of rhetoric. This is a post written by a mom with questions based on the love and concern she has for her children.

She starts off admitting she doesn't know what to do or think:

Flu vaccinations make their way to U.S. Army in EuropeI am conflicted. Yesterday I took my son to the doctor for his annual physical.

Now, let me give you some background. I’m a fairly mainstream kinda parent — or, at least I was until the medical community failed me and I started looking to natural, holistic solutions to my ailments and discovered a whole new way of looking at health and wellness and immunity.

Before that, I always took my doctor's recommendations at face value. I vaccinated all three kids on schedule, and we go to our yearly "well check-ups" like dutiful American citizens.

A few years ago, I was of the opinion that people who opted out of vaccines were fringe crunchy granola types who at the heart of it were selfish; they choose to opt out and shelter their kids from the possible side effects, while still taking advantage of the benefits the rest of us provide as we subject our kids to the risks of vaccinations for the good of society, keeping these diseases at bay. Harsh? Yes, but that is the way the majority of Americans think.

Since delving into the world of whole foods and natural healthcare, I have come to realize that there are two ways of looking at health management and both have their valid points.

The post continues with that back-and-forth while she debates the pros and cons, the what-ifs of both vaccinating and not vaccinating and ultimately exchanging a large number of points with commenters.

Where do you fall on the to-or-not-to-vax line?

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cobalt91 5 pts

Vaccinating isn't just important for yourself- through herd immunity, it protects those that can't be vaccinated, such as babies and the immunocompromised. Someone with cancer or a pregnant woman can't receive vaccines and children that aren't vaccinated by choice will cause outbreaks of preventable illnesses that these people are susceptible to.

MindyA 5 pts

I don't understand why parents who vaccinate are afraid of getting the diseases from people who don't? The idea of vaccinating is to build an immunity to a disease. That said, they shouldn't be thought of as "immunizations" anymore as vaccinations don't immunize (build a lifetime immunity). I'm happy to see people referring to them as vaccinations now instead. We vaccinated our kids right on schedule, but it killed me to give them the chickenpox vaccine when it first came out. It didn't have a track record in the US, and I told my (then) ped that. She said it had a great track record in Japan. Come to find out later that it wasn't lasting, and people were getting chicken pox when they were older -- when it is more dangerous to have it. I desperately tried to find someone who had chickenpox when my kids were 1-3, but couldn't find anyone b/c they'd all been recently vaccinated. My son actually got chickenpox from the vaccine (verified by the dr), but my others had been vaccinated the same day. Fast forward to just 2 years ago when my teen needed a DTaP booster. That was not fun. He had nightmares that night, nightsweats, muscle cramps, and was sick from it. Now that all 3 kids are older, I check the state school requirements to see if they need the booster our doc says they're due for. If they don't, we probably won't get it. I will probably titer them to see what their immunity is if the doc insists on another booster. I have gotten 3 MMR vax b/c they kept testing my immunity with each pregnancy and I tested not immune. The 3rd pregnancy I told them no. The flu shot seems like such a crap shoot from my research. It's only made from the top 3 flu strains from the previous year. However, if you got any of those strains last year, you're already protected because of your body's natural immunity. If the strains from last year mutate, the shot won't help you anyway. Instead, we focus on being proactive with building immunity and staying healthy. Lots of random thoughts, but really it comes down to this: let's trust each other to do the research and decide what's best for our own child. :)

Joeymom 5 pts

A child across the street died of meningitis the year before my oldest was born. Two years before that, they lost one to measles a couple blocks away. My mom had both mumps and measles as a child, and it wasn't pretty- she missed all of kindergarden. My oldest goes to school with an unvaxxed child, who missed physical education and recess for six months due to complications from having measles- which kept her out of school for two weeks to begin with. I had a college housemate who nearly died of chickenpox. Whooping cough is endemic in the high school in the next county over. My great-grandfather died of influenza. Heck yes, we vax. These diseases are here, and potentially dangerous. If I can even just lessen their impact with a simple jab, considering the extremely low rate of serious complications- far lower than the diseases I have mentioned here- I am all for it.

Shannon Des Roches Rosa 7 pts

It's misleading to write that parents are conflicted about vaccine schedules if almost 90% of them are on board. If we were talking about approval ratings or elections, those numbers would mean a victory of unprecedented proportions -- and a devastating defeat for the 13% minority. (But since we're talking about our children's health and the need to maintain herd immunity, those numbers do need to rise.)I recommend reading Seattle Mama Doc's related piece for some balance: http://seattlemamadoc.seattlechildrens.org/most-pa... Here's a critical excerpt regarding the Pediatrics study:

Seattle Mama Doc's Glass Half Full Findings:

-Only 2% of all the families interviewed refused all vaccines for their children. Two percent simply isn’t much.13% of parents reported following an alternative vaccination schedule, with most families stating they only refused certain vaccines (53% of them). This means that nearly 90% of parents reported following the CDC recommendations. That’s nearly an A minus!

Of the “alternative vaccinators,” a large minority of parents reported having initially following the recommended schedule.

-55% of families that were on alternative schedule ended up giving all of the recommended vaccines but on a delayed schedule.

-Of the “alternative vaccinators,” only 8% of that group followed a well-known alternative schedule such as that offered up by Dr Bob Sears or Dr Donald Miller.

-Several families free-text responded that they had worked with their child’s physician” to develop the schedule.” Fantastic. A true partnership between the patient and physician and one that is transparent and necessary for catch-up immunizations.

bonniek 5 pts

We did the first 2 scheduled then stopped after my son had a bad reaction. I'm not comfortable with the vaccines because they have SO many additives in them and adding to a child's body when their neurological system isn't fully developed doesn't jive for me. Homeopathic medicine has treatments that actually WORK for any of the illnesses we vaccinate for. They just don't make money for big pharmaceutical companies so we don't hear much about them. I'm not granola. I drive an SUV, I shop at the GAP and I've just had enough of my doctor's advice on most things.

Jane Byers Goodwin 12 pts

Yes, we had our children vaccinated. Measles and chickenpox never concerned me, but polio, whooping cough, and diphtheria did. Our school did not allow unvaccinated children in the classrooms, for which I thanked God, fasting. While I'm sure families who do not vaccinate feel that society has no right to force them to, I am also sure that I would not have allowed my children near an unvaccinated child who might have killed them with a disease our scientists worked hard to eradicate. Thank you, Jonas Salk, etc, for keeping our children alive.

Crunchygoddess 5 pts

DH is strongly pro-vax while I'm on the fence. Before dd (5mos) was born I told him if she has a bad reaction, I'm not going to try to narrow down what she might have reacted to, she won't get anymore of whatever she had at the last visit, whether that's one or two she won't finish or five or six. The worst reaction so far was redness and swelling from the PCV, and I think I was bothered by it more than she was, considering she didn't react when I rubbed it a little. Because she only got two shots that day, it was easy to figure out. And no, I'm not going to refuse the next PCV, but I will watch her more closely after her next one.

sassymonkey 197 pts moderator

As someone who does not have kids I'm still confused about the chickenpox vaccine. When did *that* happen? I remember people exposing their kids to chickenpox when I was young so they'd get it and get it over with. What happened?

Joeymom 5 pts

sassymonkey When you are exposed, you risk shingles when you get older. With the vaccine, you are most likely to get neither.

dcrmom 5 pts

I'm not so sure about this. There are now incidences of children getting shingles, it is happening younger and younger and there is some finger pointing at the chicken pox vaccine. I have not done thorough reading on the subject, but I know that the chicken pox vaccine has come under question b/c of the shingles incidents rising.

donab 6 pts

I'm in the 13% - vaccinating but using a spaced schedule so there are no more than 2 shots every month. I did a lot of reading to get here and I still feel conflicted and confused. I have a basic distrust of the western medical system. But I'm aware that having the population immunized is what eradicated many of these diseases and having pockets of the population unvaccinated risks bringing them back. I live in an area that has a low vaccination rate and we have had cases of whooping cough in the county several years running. I caught it while I was pregnant because my own booster was out of date. So my daughter does get her shots, but I deal with the hassle of extra appoinents because I don't really trust the test protocols. This is probably not the hardest parenting decision I will make, but it sure it a hot button topic!.

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BTDTMom
BTDTMom

blogher I follow a modified schedule 1 injection at a time. My 1st son has aspergers, so for me it's better safe than sorry.

RubyDW
RubyDW

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Heather Hal
Heather Hal

In the Bay Area we have a lot of new residents who did not have vaccinations and the herd immunity was severely compromised and babies have been dying from whooping cough. There's a reason for vaccinations and I got some this year because they don't last forever. We learned this about smallpox after 9/11.

Michelle LeBlanc Magoffin
Michelle LeBlanc Magoffin

I am extensive education in human biology, but I'm not a doctor, so I rely on my doctor's advice. Additionally, I live in modern society and do my part to contribute to the herd immunity. When you don't vaccinate, you are hurting more than just yourself.

Barbie Self Whitehead
Barbie Self Whitehead

If you educate yourself as a parent to make choices and know you dont gave to give on a certain time line or all together and that some are optional, etc., you are more informed, in my opinion, than just a blanket statement of too many toxins, metals, whatever.

Barbie Self Whitehead
Barbie Self Whitehead

I vax but spread them out. Personally, I don't want my child in school or daycare or even in line at wal Mart with children that aren't. I have done research on both sides and decided I'd rather take the reaction to a vax vs. Death from whooping cough or tb. I totally agree with the comment about responsibility of a member of society.

Jennifer Ress Bush
Jennifer Ress Bush

Yes, you should vaccinate. This is not about telling anyone how to parent, it is about responsibility as a member of society. There are a few valid exceptions, but those should be veryrare. The number of personal belief exceptions at bay area schools is frightening and way below herd immunity standards. KQED (local NPR) had a good piece on vaccines recently: http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201109280900.

Sarah Thompson
Sarah Thompson

I don't know why someone would give a whole bunch at once. If the child has a bad reaction, there's no way to know what caused it.

Sarah Thompson
Sarah Thompson

We space dd's vaccines to make it easier to figure out the culprit should she have a bad reaction. So far she's only had one very mild reaction, redness and swelling from the PCV.

emily steers
emily steers

i don't have kids yet, but will probably vaccinate. last year, whooping cough killed a bunch of kids in SoCal, and kids were getting measles! i understand the concern, but there is a greater public health to consider. vaccinations stop epidemics.

Katie Cortes
Katie Cortes

I love how moronic people who think that ' even if you are vaxed you still run the same risk of getting said disease' actually think they are smarter then the medical community. Have your kid die if polio or tuberculosis and then these same morons will be sounding the sirens about how their doctors failed them. I don't even care so much about the idiots' kids as the infants around them that get exposed to diseases before they can be vaccinated. Children are dying of pertussis because of this. Vaccinations should be mandatory and parents who deny their children vaccinations should be arrested.

Lynn Teasley Jones
Lynn Teasley Jones

I would rather be safe than sorry. I don't judge those that don't vaccinate,but for my family, I felt like this was the better course. My mother and grandmother used to talk about Polio stricken children, whooping cough and TB. There is a reason why these viral infections aren't as prevalent. Not to say that they aren't there still, but they aren't killing tens of thousands of children like they did in the past.

Rhonda Snively Dees
Rhonda Snively Dees

we really respect and trust our pediatrician, and we choose to vaccinate on schedule. our children have been healthy and developing right on target. we are believers, and we really felt permission from the Lord that it was the right thing to do.

Brooke Harshbarger Schmidt
Brooke Harshbarger Schmidt

We used to vaccinate. Then, based on some things that happened, I did my own research and stopped blindly taking docs' word for it just because they had medical degrees. What I found out shocked me and scared me. Now we only get some vaccines, when the kids are older, and ALWAYS only one at a time.

Arieal Rivera Walsh
Arieal Rivera Walsh

I look both look forward to and absolutely dread reading the comments from this post! I am not a doctor & I want to trust mine to do what's right by my kids. That said, from the things I hear & read I find there to be a lot of dishonesty out there from all sides & it's incredibly sad and frustrating to feel like the sources you SHOULD be able to trust, you may not be able to.

Jennifer Raymond Colgan
Jennifer Raymond Colgan

Yes, I vaccinate my kids.

Joslyn Neiderer
Joslyn Neiderer

we vacc, and I don't really care if someone chooses to vacc or not I'm not going to tell them how to raise their kids and they better not tell me how to raise mine, just my honest opinion.

Amanda Rosenfried
Amanda Rosenfried

we don't vaccinate. too many metals, toxins, and ingredients for my liking. Even if you are vaxed you still run the same risk of getting said disease.