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So You Think People on Welfare Shouldn't Own Cell Phones?

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As you see by the title of my blog page, yes, yes I am a welfare mother. There is a misconception that all people on welfare are lazy, drug addicted, uneducated, dregs of society. Well I am here to tell you that misconception needs to be changed. The simple facts of the matter are that many people like me on welfare are single working moms.

I make no excuses for the choices I have made, like being in love with a drug addict, or that I played a role in my own demise from a bright future. I have made a lot of irresponsible choices along the way to this somewhat happy stage of my forty-something life. Choices that led me to be on and off of welfare for the last 18 years. I have also worked or been in college for those last 18 years. I work at a job that pays me $11.00 dollars an hour, and I have benefits; benefits that I cannot afford. According to the poverty guidelines our state has set for welfare recipients I still qualify for full coverage Medi-cal and food stamps. I have two children that are on my welfare case. Not ten...

The thing that got me writing this blog was, believe it or not, Facebook. I was Facebooking it on break from my job, and I ran across a status that an old high school friend had posted. Something to the effect that she was irritated that someone getting their medication from the pharmacy she works at with Medi-cal benefits had a cell phone with better apps than hers. Well, of course I was reading this on MY cellphone. She went on to say that people on welfare had no business owning cellphones.This really got me thinking  how whitebread that statement was. Whitebread is a term I will frequently use for people I view as conservative.

Young woman standing and holding a mobile phone Vertical

So I had to post a comment back. It basically said that I was sorry she felt that way and that she must feel that way about me, because I too received assistance and worked. I went on to say that my cell phone is my only phone, and that I had commented via my facebook application. Well, if that did not ignite a firestorm. I will admit that throughout the morning I checked for any notifications regarding her status. She went on to comment later that, it was ok if I had a cellphone, OUCH, just not people who abuse the system. Like I needed her approval  to have my cellphone -- Cricket didn't even do a credit check! 

During the day I kept track of comments left, and the women who did respond all agreed with her. The last person to respond commented that she had just left a Von's grocery store and was in line behind a woman with a multicolored weave and a Juicy Couture track suit, with Rockstar nails and Coach shoes and a Gucci bag. This lady in front of her was complaining about the size of the cereal box she was getting. according to the commentator, with her "foodstamp card thingy". She went on to say that she and her husband who are school teachers work very hard and that they have a budget, blah blah blah blahzooo. I imagined her voice sounding  like the Peanuts schoolteacher as I read this, "WAAAH WAAAH WAAAH WAAAH." So me, being the type who has to have the last word, commented back.

I explained in my post that what that lady was complaining about was probably the WIC program, because with food stamps you can get any size of cereal box! I went on to say that her multicolored weave was probably a "kitchen weave," and her namebrand clothes, shoes, and purse were all probably knockoffs found at the local flea-market and the "Rockstar" nail polish could be found there too! I then explained that the WIC (learn more) or Women Infants and Childrens program were vouchers for specific healthy foods for pregnant, and lactating women and children under five. The food stamp program (learn more) is funded by the USDA as is the WIC program. Then I closed with this little thought: I told her to take a look at her students in whatever school she was teaching in and try to guess which one would go without any dinner that night, a meal most of us take for granted. Maybe

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

You Rock! When things get tough the tough get going and you have some awesome ideas you should blog them! So Sorry about your husband hope things are getting better, We never realize how resourceful we can be when we need to and don't feel bad eating out at McDonalds I am sure your friend would have understood if you had told her. We are all entitled to a treat now and then!Take care and seriously think about blogging your money saving ideas if you do not already! thanks for your thoughts!

WHO CARES WHERE YOU COME FROM, ITS WHERE YOU ARE GOING THAT MATTERS! DEVS GLAMMA  http://www.noturtypicalgma.blogspot.com

frugalmtnmama 5 pts

I am the mother of 4. My husband worked construction and we lived well. It was nothing for me to take friends out after church and pay the bill. He fell from a scaffold one day and became disbabled. This SAHM went to work and between his disability and my minimum wage we still qualify for food stamps and medical cards for my kids.I have a govt. issued cell phone, my kids have a Wii and both have an ipod touch. My dad buys them things. They deserve everything every other kid deserves. A lot of time I have no money left for cleaning supplies so I go online and look for homemade cleaning recipes. I use the foodstamps to buy vinegar and Baking soda to clean with. I subscribed to the Sunday paper which I knew we couldn't afford. Why? I went to different sites and learned that the coupons I get pay for the paper and so much more. Plus I got a $10 gift card for paying through my checking account. I go on the internet everytime I get time and get every free sample I can get my hands on. This helps so much. I went to Sally's Beauty when I saw that they had a sale on shampoo. $5.99 for a gallon of concentrated shampoo. If we get a chance to go to Mcdonald's (dollar menu)I keep the extra napkins and ketchup and such to take home. I shop at yardsales,Goodwill, the Union Mission. I got to paperbackwap.com and trade old books that we have read for books that we need. I got my husband a NEW never written in book that someone never got around to reading. I took my daughter and her friends to the Marriott $109 per night for her 13th B-day. I earned points from a website (took me forever) to cash in for a gift card. While I was there at the pool (late at night) the cleaning lady just smiled but wouldn't speak unless she offered us more towels. I finaly got her to talk and she was hesitant. I asked her what was wrong. She said they are not to have conversations with the guest unless spoken to. We began talking and she thought we were like the other rich guests. I told her honey, we are the Beverly Hillbillies and the Marriott is Californie! We both laughed. People can have nice things and still qualify. This year I learned from other moms online and got presents for the kids for FREE. I used coupons and rewards cards. Praise the Lord. You have to work your rear end off but you can do it. One last thing, a friend of mine asked me to go in with her on a gift for a friend of ours and I told her I didn't have a dime (I really didn't). Later that day she saw our family at Mcdonald's eating (boy was my face red). I thought oh no! My dad had came by and said take the kids to Mcdonalds on me. He knew we hadn't been out to eat in ages. I said no. He said "Yes and I want them to get what they want". So needless to say they didn't order from the dollar menu. Judge not. I have gotten myself into some real crap over judging and had to eat my words. I think we just need educated. If you grew up wealthy and all you heard was that everybody is abusing the system, you really wouldn't know any better.

notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

You are right ssi recipients do not get fs, as the money they receive includes food allotment.....if you are applying for ssi and are on general assistance as an adult the state of california will be reimbursed for any monies you received. my girls father is going through the ssi app process right now and it is a long and tenuous process and yes you are right in saying you need hard medical proof. I am blessed to be working and hey I still need help but that is ok if people want to judge me all i know is I am going to feed my kids. thanks for your comment! keep keeping on!

WHO CARES WHERE YOU COME FROM, ITS WHERE YOU ARE GOING THAT MATTERS! DEVS GLAMMA  http://www.noturtypicalgma.blogspot.com

notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

Thanks Katy, yes students can get fs and I say if you need the help get it. Some people will never go to college because they think they cannot afford it but really you cannot afford to not get the education you are entitled to. when the time comes and these people are out in the workforce or society contributing they will be the people who will make a difference because they know what it is to struggle.. thanks for your comment!

WHO CARES WHERE YOU COME FROM, ITS WHERE YOU ARE GOING THAT MATTERS! DEVS GLAMMA  http://www.noturtypicalgma.blogspot.com

falling 5 pts

Anna, I agree with you completely. If you are on government assistance and chose to have another child you should not receive one additional dime in assistance. My husband and I had four children and not once did either of us get a raise just because we had another child. Not once did someone give us a bigger home or a larger food allowance. Nor did we expect them too.

falling 5 pts

I got here by following links on blogs and found the topic very interesting because I just finished getting my niece and her five children out of my home and back into HUD housing after taking her in after she lost her last HUD financed home because she was caught abusing her HUD benefits. My niece spent six months living in my home, not once did she voluntarily do ANYTHING for herself or her children...she did go to work at a $10.00 an hour job, but thought it was perfectly acceptable for ME to keep her children while she worked because I am a SAHM. If it had not been for the children she would have been out of my house after 24 hrs of her nonsense! I caught her going to the grocery store and buying food using her FS card then selling them to a friend for half the price she paid. And I knew I couldn't turn her in or I would have NEVER gotten her out of my home! She lied to her case worker and said she was paying me $350 a week for babysitting and they filed it as income for me and I was expected to pay taxes on that "income". Where they thought she got that $350 from I have no idea! The day she left she told me that she thought I had been very selfish because while they lived in my house I did not provide for her children as much as I did for my own! She truly thought I should buy her children gaming systems and computers for Christmas because I could afford to! She resented the fact that I purchased most of her children's clothing at the local Goodwill and my children's clothing at the mall! Randee reminds me of my niece! She truly believes she is ENTITLED to the earnings of someone else simply because she cannot provide what she thinks her children deserve! I can truly sympathize with someone who is in need...Brandee is NOT in need, she is in WANT and feels she is entitled to get what she wants, even if it means making someone else pay for it! Well Brandee, I may not get my hard earned money back if welfare were ended, but that money would be going to someone who is truly in need if there weren't so many people like YOU who think you deserve more than you can provide for yourself! Supporting yourself is about hard work and sacrifice...it looks like you are doing neither...shame on YOU! The entitlement mentality and the excuses many of you make for your abuse of the system is simply mind boggling to me!

KatysMOM 5 pts

I have never received public assistance. But I know several who have, and guess what, they were all my friends in my college dorm. Yep, college kids who worked on the federal work study program were eligible for foodstamps! Anyhow,welfare recipients can be ex-workers who have been recently laid off. So i=to an outsider it may appear that they live beyond their means.

Do people abuse the system? Yes, but it is not fair to assume that everyone with foodstamps and namebrand clothes is doing it.

oh and FYI, weaves cost $40 so what if someone has one on.

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zoom314 5 pts

I have a Cell Phone as landlines out here are so bad that one can't alway hear what the other person is saying, So the line that used to be a phone line is now only good enough to be a dry loop for My DSL service and I'm a disabled person.

I feel for those Who get WIC or Food Stamps or SSI, Some have said if one gets benefits one shouldn't own a car, a house or be allowed to vote, This isn't right, Nothing but ignorance and/or jealousy is at work by people who need an education and/or a life. Once while I was in the Market some lady thought I got Food Stamps, Which in California is not possible If one gets Supplemental Security Income(SSI) which one can only get If one is Disabled, Blind or a Senior, If SSA thinks one is able bodied they will turn You down very quickly for SSI, As one needs hard medical proof to get SSI(It took Me 6 years to get that hard proof as I had no medical insurance coverage then and no job and I was dependent on a relative who is now deceased to survive), then one can not get Food Stamps in CA if one gets SSI cause of a policy dispute between CA and the USDA plus the SSA over benefits. Me I'm a disabled person, I do own My own car and a mobile home(I pay space rent though), that I'm slowly repairing and I vote by mail and I do My best to survive on what I get.

notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

triciakaye i had to respond to your post.... intentions even the best of them fall by the wayside when life happens, i know this all too well. be proud of the choices you have made, you will be ok i want to message you personally so that i can share some information with you that i think will be helpful to you and i hope that you can get on track and make a bright future for yourself and your kids...refuse to be a victim of circumstance because our circumstances are inevitably created by the choices we make so look ahead positively and things will fall into place best of luck to you! keep in touch with me!

WHO CARES WHERE YOU COME FROM, ITS WHERE YOU ARE GOING THAT MATTERS! DEVS GLAMMA  http://www.noturtypicalgma.blogspot.com

notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

thanks to all of you again i sooooo appreciate the feedback and the thoughts i am on a lunch break at home and only have a few minutes but i am so grateful to those of you that read this and those of you that commented. i have been out of the loop because my dinosaur of a computer from 2001 (that was a gift from my brother) finally needed some repairs been without it for a few weeks! back to blogging about my life....

WHO CARES WHERE YOU COME FROM, ITS WHERE YOU ARE GOING THAT MATTERS! DEVS GLAMMA  http://www.noturtypicalgma.blogspot.com

AnInquiringMind 5 pts

I don't find your term of whitebread cute or affectionate. There's better ways of getting your point across. It does come off as judgemental and stereotypical, because you're applying it to ALL conservatives (which I am). You can be a conservative and still have some liberal viewpoints. It's not all or nothing. You're lumping in all conservatives into one category, whitebreads. It smacks of hypocrisy, as the entire point of your post was to not lump everyone on welfare into one category (lazy, etc). How can I take you seriously when you do the exact same thing you're speaking against? Hope I am making enough logical sense for you here....?

chopsticksandchurros 5 pts

I grew up one of three children to a welfare mother...it was no picnic...my father never paid child support...Today, I am a single mother of a teenage daughter and employed full time for the State of California...I saw what my mother went through growing up...as an older, wiser woman-I know she did the best she could...I don't judge her or anybody else on welfare...As an adult, I never considered it an option for me...when I got pregnant at twenty, I was going to a vocational school that helped me find a job after graduation...I always wanted a better life-even working three jobs...lucky for me, I had my mother to babysit my daughter when I went to work and my daughter's father paid me child support without me having to take him to court...I took WIC for awhile until they told me my daughter was healthy and didn't need it! At that point I didn't like that the government wanted to know all my business in order to receive benefits like WIC and Medi-Cal...the only regret I have is missing out on my daughter's early years because I did have to work...those moments are priceless...please check out my blog chopsticksandchurros...

Nanakoosa 5 pts

YES YES YES! Good for you for speaking up. Too many people make judgements and assumptions without knowing anything about the person they are judging. I have also been a working single Mom on foodstamps and Medicaid. I'm a Social Worker with a college degree and yet still qualified for benefits. Cel phones and computers are no longer luxury items. And who says low income families can't have a few luxury items. As you said there are knock offs, resale stores, gifts from friends; we learn to be resourceful. I have 2 pair of Gap jeans, practically new that I got for $5 each. I used to feel ashamed when I faced prejudice because of using public benefits until one day I realized that a common complaint is "it's the taxpayers money". Well don't even get me started on some other ways the "taxpayers money" gets used or abused; but I realized we are ALL taxpayers. If you pay rent part of your rent is paying property tax. Anytime you make a purchase you pay tax. One of the most highly taxed services in my state is guess what...cel phone service. Proportionately I, and all low income individuals, pay a larger percentage of our income for that service to be available for everyone.
Keep up the good work, great blog!
Check mine out if you'd like at http://nanakoosasplace.blogspot.com/ I think we have a similar theme and mission.
Peace,
Jenny

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Chana Lonicera 5 pts

I used to think about this in a very judgmental way. How could people use their resources so stupidly? Shouldn't they be spending their last cent on food and shelter? I'm still judgmental, and I still think a lot of people make poor choices that yes, sometimes I have to pay for.

I know I've had a lucky life, and thus making choices to be a bit frugal is easy, and doesn't require much hard ship. Its a lot easier when its your choice. You can even look down on people that lead more extravagant lifestyles. You can even know that if you make a bad choice, the consequences won't be as bad for you as they might be for other people.

Anyway, my point is that after two years of living around very poor people in Africa, I came to some different conclusions about life. When I first got there, it was hard for me to understand why they were so attached to their radio's and Kola nuts when I thought food/health or education perhaps should be higher priorities.

But at the end of my time there I realized that if you are in a chronically difficult situation, you need to have way's to do/have something special, something beyond your basic needs. Its part of being human to do more than just eat and provide the basics. And if fact if I were really really poor, I would probably value cell phone, internet, a book even more than I do now. By thinking poor people don't have needs for extras just like we do, I think we see them as less than human, less deserving.

So, of course you should have your cell phone and internet! (you probably need it to get a job anyway) And good clothes and transportation- again, you need all those to get back on your feet!

My second point that I have not seen here, is that in most cases there are children involved, and it is NOT the child's fault if the parent made bad choices. As a former teacher, I can tell you, I don't want more children growing up in suboptimal conditions. If some adults unfairly game the system, I'm willing to pay for it if it helps the children. I want my child growing up around children who are well fed.

Personally, if you are gaming the system, I think you are a bit mentally ill- most people would rather not be on welfare even if they could gain from it. I think if we want to help most people, I'm willing to pay for a little freeloading because most people, especially children NEED it. I don't want people living in more poverty than they already are in my country, and I'm willing to pay for it- even if you buy something I don't personally approve of.

AnOnlySlightlyCrazyMama 5 pts

Very thought provoking. I love that you stood your ground, even though it was a "friend," and I hope you opened some minds.

Nicole_Longstreath 5 pts

I get so sick of people assuming assistance = laziness. I've never been in a position to need welfare but I did collect unemployment a while back and it was completely demoralizing.

Yes, the welfare system needs some better checks-and-balances for those who abuse it - no doubt. But, by all means, if you're on welfare, of course it's okay to have a cell phone.

triciakaye 5 pts

I didn't read all of the comments on the 2nd page (toddler won't cooperate that long), but I am on welfare. Until a few months ago, I was in an abusive but financially stable relationship, and when the abuse got to be too much (found out I was pregnant), I left.. with nothing except my clothes & personal items and those of my 3 year old son. Among those clothes are several (gasp!) Coach bags, a few of which are real, the rest are good knock-offs.
Also, I have a smartphone with internet access.. which will cost me more to break the contract on than to continue paying the bill and using the phone. I live with my parents now, who both work and pay for the internet access I am currently using to post my comment.
I am telling you this because I get the funny "she's pulling a food stamp card out of a Coach bag?!" looks at the grocery store. And yes I'm wearing jeans from a mall store (usually Old Navy) and my son is wearing clothes from Children's Place. More than likely these were either purchased the previous season on clearance or on sale for cheaper than Walmart prices.
My point is similar to the original bloggers and along the same lines as many other commenters. Don't judge unless you KNOW the person's situation, aka YOU ARE THEM. I was offered cash assistance along with my food stamps and medical coverage from the government and turned it down. I simply wouldn't feel right paying my cell phone bill with the state's money, but I'm lucky enough to have a safe and loving place for my son and I to live (I don't intend to live with family forever, only until I can get back on my feet, just as I don't intend to accept welfare benefits forever) and I have enough unnecessary 'extra' items left over from my previous life that I've been selling on ebay to keep my head above water until I have this baby (3 more weeks!) and can look for a job to support my family.
I didn't plan on being on welfare. I didn't plan on falling in love with an abusive man. I didn't even plan getting pregnant, either time. But, here I am, and I am trying to make the best of it without the judgment of other people who apparently have never been in a rough situation of their own.

Gena Haskett 6 pts

and there is no excuse for exploiting the system. Not on an individual level or a corporate level.

But I try to look at the end result. Children are being fed. Children have access to minimal health care.

The people that need it, really need it should also have access. That is what I pay tax dollars for. Yes, there could be better screening and follow-up.

There could be greater corporate responsibility from employers such as Wal-Mart who pay so low that people can actually qualify for benefits.

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sarahp007 5 pts

I have to say that these days, cell phones these days are replacing landline phones in peoples homes. So, I think it is perfectly acceptable for people on welfare to have cell phones.

Just my 2c.

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

i pay way less for my internet and phone service than a lot of my friends do and if i do not make my payment i have neither. so far so good. before i had this phone i had so many different numbers that my family members would write them in pencil LOL.

WHO CARES WHERE YOU COME FROM, ITS WHERE YOU ARE GOING THAT MATTERS! DEVS GLAMMA  http://www.noturtypicalgma.blogspot.com

notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

there is no humiliation in trying to make a better life for you or your child. you do what you gotta do. hey i slept in my van. and you know what those struggles only made my girls and i stronger and wiser and most of all closer as a family. happiness is a tangible attainable thing and it comes from taking the steps you need to to make your life better. all of the caca you are dealing with will be a source of your strength. thank you for your thoughts and did you know food seeds and i think food plants are able to be purchased with foodstamps!

WHO CARES WHERE YOU COME FROM, ITS WHERE YOU ARE GOING THAT MATTERS! DEVS GLAMMA  http://www.noturtypicalgma.blogspot.com

notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

thank you for your comments dianaelee, and that is also what i said to my "friend" who really is an old dear friend. i e-mailed her and said thanks for pissing me off because now i have been given this great opportunity to be a "paid writer" i wa not offended so much as i was hurt because that validated what i have always known when i am in the checkout line at the grocerystore or pharmacy and that is that people ARE judging me. but that is ok because tomorrow it could be them, never think you cannot be touched by anything that can change your life. i know what i am all about and i am a good mom and a good person and at the end of the day that is all that really matters. hope you read more of me and again thank you for your comments and support.

WHO CARES WHERE YOU COME FROM, ITS WHERE YOU ARE GOING THAT MATTERS! DEVS GLAMMA  http://www.noturtypicalgma.blogspot.com

notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

Change is always an ongoing process, when you are working to change something for the better it takes longer of course, and that is where being the change that you want to see in others is important. I am not perfect and I still have my prejudices or make assumptions even though I have been through a lot of caca in my life. All that I know is that I am working towards being that change and that is the great thing about all of the mistakes I have made in my life, can't fix the past but I can change my future and it all begins with a positive attitude.

WHO CARES WHERE YOU COME FROM, ITS WHERE YOU ARE GOING THAT MATTERS! DEVS GLAMMA  http://www.noturtypicalgma.blogspot.com

Judy Schwartz Haley 6 pts

This is exactly why we needed health insurance reform. The weak, watered down version we finally passed is a very small step in the right direction, but people need to be able to get health coverage whether or not their employer provides it. It's inaccurate to assume that just because someone has a job, they have access to health care. Saying "get a job" to someone who needs health care does not fix the problem.

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tipytop 5 pts

It's good to meet you all. To put a face to the money withdrawn from my hubby's paycheck is comforting, knowing that the money isn't used in vain. He's a physician. He gives free services to those patients who can't afford them. He cares for my elderly parents who are barely getting by with medicare and social security. We live in a modest home furnished by our children's stuff and decorated by their art work. We're frugal so I can be a SAHM. I love my hubby and I thank him every day for allowing me, our children, my parent, his patients to live life comfortably.
BTW, I don't have a cell phone. I did once but it broke and I chose not to spend our money on replacing it. It's good to have choices...only in America.

JynMeyer 5 pts

My best friend lives in Los Angeles and her husband is considered a minority. They have 2 kids between themselves and he has others from various mothers.She is an administrative assistant and full time mom- he is a self employed barber.Their money gets garnished for the support of his other kids. They are on welfare and really, I dont know how they would survive off of it. When I went to visit them I did talk in depth with her about the amount of people around her who abused the system and the system allowed it comfortably. Im not talking profiling- Im talking people who work under the table and collect welfare because they ARE lazy and they have learned how to cheat the system. People with $250 shoes and expensive suits and cars and, yes- weaves... how do I know? She went to beauty school,a big step up from prostitution on the streets of LA, and the people are everywhere.

We have been on welfare a handful of times in the past because my husband is in advertising and if you want to know the first thing that goes when a company needs to downsize- it's the advertising and creatives. He's been layed off a bunch of times and I still look back and wonder how we made it off. We have been blessed enough to not have been on welfare for the past 4 years and with 6 kids and #7 on their way, that is a big feat in this day and age- but to deny that people are abusing the system is ignorant. I DO feel that the system needs to step it up a notch in qualifying people for welfare. People who CAN work- should be looking. Bank records should have to be submitted monthly. My husband was required to show up once a week at the DHS office and look for work and turn in papers showing he was, and every three months we had to show proof of income via bank records. It was hard to stay on it for us, especially, because my husband was a professional and his job searches had to be confidential. But I certainly dont think that welfare should be something that people can live on when they are perfectly capable of getting off of it. Im sure no one would disagree to that.

-Jyn Meyer

Emmylouwho123 5 pts

I have strong feelings about this issue.

Let me start by saying that when I found out I was pregnant with my daughter, who turns a year old soon, I applied for Medicaid and WIC. I am 22 years old and happily married. My husband and I both work full time and go to college full time. My husband is a member of the National Guard, as well, and has served a tour in Afghanistan. We are also both conservatives, if that makes any sort of difference to you. We have one nice car, and one okay car. I have a nice wedding ring, and we have cell phone data plans. We also are saving up money to buy our first home, since we are currently renting.

In response to your specific post, I do not feel that people on any sort of government assistance should be restricted from having cell phones. This is common sense, as cell phones are the sole form of communication for most families now-a-days and the only way to call for help, if necessary.

I never felt bad asking for assistance. I used the assistance until my daughter turned 6 months old. I benefited from the assistance because they covered (most of) the hospital bills from labor and delivery.

Now here is my issue - I read one post about someone who said if they got a job and got off welfare, they would lose their insurance, etc. I don't blame this person. Anyone would do the same thing. My #1 concern for my family is our health insurance. However, this is also why the system is corrupted. I don't think it is the individuals to blame.

When my husband and I first applied for Medicaid when I was pregnant, they told us we made too much money to qualify. I could have quit my job and then I would have gotten more benefits from Medicaid than I would have by keeping my job. I didn't quit my job, and after applying two more times and pleading our case, we were finally able to get on Medicaid, which saved us about $4000 in hospital bills. $4000 might not seem like that much to you, but it is to two young college students trying to stay ahead.

Now what is wrong with this story? What if I would have quit my job to receive the benefits? Medicaid basically encourages this in the ways they implement their system! They LET people get away with living off of it. If someone handed you a $100 bill you'd keep it too right?

I'm sure most people who are on welfare (who drive nice cars, and have nice cell phones) don't go around bragging about their government assistance! I'm sure most are honest taxpaying and hard working citizens. However, the system is so corrupt that they don't allow the people on it to get ahead. It's all or nothing.

I am strongly for the use of welfare, medicaid, WIC, any form of government assistance, to those who truly need it, and will eventually make an honest difference in society by paying taxes, holding jobs, etc. I am strongly against those who "cheat" the system, and I am also against how corrupted the system has become. Something needs to change. I think we are placing all the blame on the people when the system is truly what's to blame.

LanieRee 5 pts

I grew up in poverty. We always had food, but little else. Our cars were often repossessed, we didn't always have electricity, and none of our clothes were new. My parents didn't want to admit to anyone how bad things were, and never applied for assistance.

I really, really wish that they had. If we had had help with our food, there would have been enough money for heat in the wintertime. For us to go to the dentist. Maybe my mom would have seen a doctor when she started getting sick, instead of waiting. Maybe she wouldn't have died.

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stephmansueto 5 pts

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Great post.

In the days of livejournal this was a common argument I found myself in the middle of. People are so quick to judge.
I had a father that dipped out on my Mother leaving her to raise three kids on no education or job skills... because you know, when they married he wanted her home. And then he was gone so now we were buying our clothes at the Family Dollar and our food was purchased with vouchers that came in a book and looked like Monopoly money.
I hated it growing up. But as soon as my first daughter was born I grew a great respect for my Mother and the sacrifices she made to give us a hot meal and a roof over our head.

Thanks for posting this.. off to read your blog! :D

Yardavore 5 pts

Yardavore

Most any mother would agree that some kind of phone and internet are pretty essential things to properly care for your kids...they need to be able to contact you and do their homework, right?..and so is protein.

In the US, the cost of child care and medical expenses are not in any kind of reasonable relationship with an average wage; unlike Europe where those things are more like a public service and a given.

Good luck to you and your.

Ama28 5 pts

Sorry, I registerd quickly so I could respond. My name is Alicia Allen. I'm a 28 year old stay at home mom to my two year old daughter. I live in Georgia. My husband and I have worked hard and saved so I can be a stay at home mom. We don't drive new cars. We don't have the latest phones, electronics, etc. And for the record, I can't have kids. My daughter was adopted. I had to think before becoming a mom and ensure that I could provide for her. Anything else you'd like to say or ask?

Catherine Morgan 5 pts

I really appreciate that you had the courage to write this post, and I would love to see more women standing up for themselves on this topic. It's true that some are guilty of taking advantage of the system, but those people are in the minority, and should not be used as a free-pass to judge all who are getting assistance.

Interestingly enough, the rich are benefits of much more government assistance than the poor...

According to the independent Tax Policy Center, extending tax cuts for the rich would cost an additional $700 billion over the next 10 years. Nearly all of it would go to the richest 1 percent of Americans, those with incomes of more than $500,000 a year. And, of that group, the majority of tax cuts would go to the wealthiest one-tenth of 1 percent. Which translates, over the next decade, into an average $3 million windfall each year for precisely 120,000 people.

Here are a few interesting links on all the money spent to help the rich get richer (and this does not even count all the ways some rich people are able to take advantage of the system)...

http://www.ihavenet.com/politics/Republican-Party-... ( http://www.ihavenet.com/politics/Republican-Party-... )

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http://www.999ideas.com/corporate-welfare.html

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http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/21/news/economy/wealt... ( http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/21/news/economy/wealt... )

Honestly, we really need to stop vilifying the people that need our help. And if you think people on welfare have it easy -- try walking a year in their shoes. How long could you live "comfortably" off a few hundred dollars a month?

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Just_Margaret 5 pts

Even if we can change the attitude of just one person, I think it's well worth any trouble it might cause.

Indeed--this is a great attitude. It's overwhelming to think about changing EVERYone's attitude, but baby steps...one at a time? That's managable.

RE: the post in general--my heart breaks a little bit each time I read about assumptions like this--unless we intimately know that on the other side of the counter, or the person in the checkout line, we actually know nothing. We teach our kids to be accepting, but do we practice it ourselves?

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lilmommythatcould 5 pts

Although there is abuse cell phones are often given free with certain plans and deals. Plus I know many people who don't have a land line, only a cell phone to save money. I did for quite awhile myself.

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netc23 5 pts

I've been on welfare. recently.

I lost my job almost a year ago. I've been looking everywhere - all over the country - I'm an attorney, I should be able to make enough money but haven't been able to find work. I'm a single mother and receive no child support. I am proud that I walked out of an unhealthy, abusive relationship before having my child. I knew it would be hard but since he refused to admit there was a problem, or get help for his alcoholism and mental health issues - I was not willing to have that in my child's life.

I'm losing my home. but I've lucked out and *keeping fingers crossed* its going to be sold in a short sale and not in a foreclosure.

I have a cell phone. an 11 year old car. a two year old son. and you know what? a few weeks ago I got my nails done. its the one thing I do for me - a friend gave me 20 bucks for my birthday and I actually spent it on me!

We were on food stamps when my unemployment ran out. and it was more money then I've spent on food in a long LONG time. no, I never wanted to be on welfare. and didn't plan it. and hate it. find it humiliating. but my son and I need to eat. and so I get wic and foodstamps and medicare. and someday hopefully soon - I'll get a good job and can help someone else out.

life throws curve balls at you. I quit a job with crazy people making okay money and got pregnant the next day! I found a job with the state but it was public interest and then my son was born 2 months early and medical bills from a month of nicu took the 100 bucks a month I had for food after all my other bills. and even then I was making too much money for any assistance. and then losing my job...its too much.

I'm moving across the country to live with family (how humiliating at age 41) and try to get a job. and have some support.

I know there are people who abuse the system. I don't. I buy fruits and veggies as cheap as I can - grew some in my yard this year to supplement ours. I don't go out and party. I don't buy or have new clothes or a big car or anything like that and I'm still barely getting by. seriously worry about if we can all fit in my car when we are out of our house because I can't afford an apt. I say unless you are in a person's life and mind and heart, don't judge - just see what you can do to help.

dianaelee 5 pts

It makes absolutely no sense! And most of us never think about that kind of burden for someone in your shoes. I know I never did and I am disabled from a chronic condition so I think about that stuff more than the average person. How frustrating for you.

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dianaelee 5 pts

In Kansas students have to pay about $100 per student to enroll at the beginning of the year. It's a big burden for a lot of families.

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dianaelee 5 pts

I really dislike that attitude. Most of us think we'd never end up in a bad situation and judge people who are, assuming they did something to deserve falling on hard times. It's never that simple.

I have a much more compassionate attitude toward everyone since I lost my job and benefits because of a chronic illness. I now receive Social Security Disability benefits and Medicare. I'm sure some people I encounter day to day judge me for that. Screw them. We don't owe them an explanation for the choices we make. And why does it almost always seem like the people making such judgy, ignorant statements don't have the first clue how these programs work? Become educated before you start spouting off, people.

I'm sorry your "friend" went off like that. I don't think a real friend would treat you that way.

Thanks for writing this and trying to open minds.

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

GREAT WORD THAT MOST PEOPLE FORGET TO APPLY TO THERE DAILY LIFE! GLAD YOU AND YOURS DO! AND I KNOW! THE CONVO HAS BEEN GREAT! LOVE IT!

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

EVERYDAYJILL I AM RIGHT THERE WITH YOU HOW SAD IS IT THAT I WORK FULL TIME AT A WORLDWIDE COMPANY AND YET I CANNOT AFFORD THE INSURANCE AND STILL QUALIFY FOR MEDICAL! THANKS FOR YOUR THOUGHTS!

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

WHITEBREAD IS JUST MY TERM OF AFFECTION FOR ANY CONSERVATIVE. IT ISNT ME BEING JUDGEMENTAL,ITS ME BEING SARCASTIC. I LOVE CONSERVATIVES WHEN THEY MAKE LOGICAL SENSE OR ANY POLITICIAN FOR THAT MATTER YOU KNOW WHITE BREAD IS USUALLY MILLED FLOUR AND THE WHOLE GRAIN IS REMOVED AND ALL ITS ORIGINAL INNATE GOODNESS IS TAKEN OUT AND IT IS FILLED WITH ADDITIVES AND A LOT OF HOT AIR. AND ACTUALLY I CALLED MY FRIEND'S FRIENDS BELIEF WHITEBREAD. AND DARN I WAS REALLY POLITE IN THE ORIGINAL POSTINGS AND I THOUGHT IN MY BLOG,BUT THIS IS MY BLOG FROM MY MIND AND THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM JENNIFER!IF YOU GO TO MY BLOGSITE YOU WILL SEE I USE THE WORD PROVOKE AND I LOVE THAT YOU EVEN TOOK THE TIME TO COMMENT!HAVE A GOOD ONE AND THANKS AGAIN!

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

mograceluv you are richer than someone who just won the lotto. You have spunk! People in our position have nowhere to go but up!See you at the top kiddo, and misssweetgirl Randee keep doing what you are doing You Rock! Thanks for your wonderful comments!
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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

Aw Debtprincess I am broke too! Hey one of my future blogs will be about me finalizing my bankruptcy! live and learn!

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

AMA28 yes reform is the key here,limits are the key here. I do not know what state you live in but in Cali the time limits for cash aid is 5 years. Foodstamps and medical are based on income. So unless and until the economy improves and visionary leadership happens in every corner of the USA there will be welfare and there will be abuse! Some idiot somewhere will always find a way to buck the system. Thanks for your thoughts!

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

Use your powers for good I love it! Thanks Jorja. I applied that same principle the other day and I had the best ever day yet!and it was a monday!

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

No I am not your typical anything,lol, and while I hate that people are out there abusing the system everyday I really despise making a judgement based on an assumption. Also with WIC the income guidelines are pretty darn good. And you are right the crappy economy is creating a bigger need!I just hope that if you know someone who needs help give em some knowledge! I have provided some links for the foodstamp and WIC programs! Thanks for your thoughts!

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

You deserve it! Thanks for your comment. Where there is ignorance there is education and with that knowledge hopefully judgement goes out the door. If not there is always Karma! One thing I have learned is life is to live. So do it well Judy! Best wishes to you and your family!

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difbutdeterm 5 pts

And you have no business telling other people they can nor can not have children. I'm sure if you weren't hiding behind you anonymity here, I could find a few things in your life to prove you shouldn't have children either.

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notUrtypicalGma 5 pts

I am not kinder I just took my anger that rised up in this volcano woman and used my powers for good! And Jenna yes I remember the go phone!

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difbutdeterm 5 pts

I did the same thing not so long ago. I am not particularly conservative but seem to have a lot of friends and family that are. I saw too many people (at a relatively popular parenting website/forum) complain, very rudely, about how the disabled on medicaid and the lazy on other forms of welfare should not be able to have kids. I also saw family of my dad's complain that if they had to have a drug test to get a job welfare recipients should have a drug test to get free money.

I never could say or do anything to stop the right to reproduction talks on the mommy boards but when I saw the second, from my dad's family, I immediately hunted down the stats and "slippery slope" arguments. I was afraid my dad would get angry if I caused trouble but I was tired of seeing/hearing these things. I have yet to see/hear another family member openly discuss what welfare recipients should have to do.

Even if we can change the attitude of just one person, I think it's well worth any trouble it might cause.

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