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So you've talked to your kids about sex. How about sexuality?

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I had lunch with Naomi Wolf today.

I love saying that, and I love how when I say it, people wait for the punchline, like "Oh, you read one of her books at lunch?" or "was there an interview of her on television while you munched on your sandwich?"  But no, I actually mean it just like it sounds:  Today I, along with my two very good friends Katherine and Laura (both of whom I know courtesy of blogging), attended a luncheon where we sat at Naomi Wolf's table.  And we even talked about blogging with her.  And twitter.  And kirtsy.  And she was lovely.

But you know what?  That's not the cool part that made me want to rush back to my computer and tell you about it.

After lunch, Naomi stood up and spoke to the large group that had assembled for this particular luncheon at this particular venue.  The purpose of the luncheon and the venue aren't really important; however, what she said certainly was.

She talked about how 15 years ago, when she wrote her first book, The Beauty Myth, its premise was that the conceptual "ideal" of beauty wasn't actually so much about physical attraction, as it was a societal construct designed to undermine women at a time when women were making groundbreaking strides in equality.  She continued by saying that since that time, if anything, the beauty "ideal" has gotten skinnier, cosmetic surgery has become more commonplace, and the stereotype of a size two with (her words) "pneumatic boobs" as being "perfect"  was pervasive.   And she said that this was horrifying because this unrealistic ideal of beauty warps a girl's sense of self, and "a girl's sense of self has a direct relationship to her sexual behaviour."

Okay, no bombshells there.

She continued by positing that this constant media diet of pneumatic boobs, rump-shaking, luscious-lady-lumping devalued young women's sense of self to the extent that the concept of their bodies and their sexuality as sacred were obliterated.  And she used two examples to illustrate:  the first was the prevalence of "hooking up," or the practice of young people having sex with partners they barely know first, and then only afterwards taking the time to determine if they even like said partners.  Her second example was the shocking part:

She said that when doing research for one of her subsequent books (Promiscuities, perhaps?  I honestly don't remember), when she interviewed young women who'd had sex which resulted in a  negative outcome (an unwanted pregnancy, say, or a sexually transmitted disease), their most common comment was "It just happened."

It just happened?  Sex just happened?

I don't know about you, but I find this really sort of sad.  As a mother of a young girl, I'm not so naive as to believe that my daughter will wait until marriage before she has sex (much as I'd love that to be the case).  But I think I would be really heartbroken if I found out that her sexual experiences "just happened."  And I think I agree with Wolf's theory that the current teaching of sexuality in the context of fear (that is, couched in terms of unprotected sex leading to disease or unwanted pregnancy), while important, isn't enough. I think, in addition, there has to be a way to teach our children -- from a relatively young age -- about how sacred their bodies are, and their sexuality is a powerful integral part of their whole person, to be cared for with as much attention as they care for any other parts of themselves.  

Or maybe I am naive.

Anyway, I've done a little online searching, and really, there's not much in the blogosphere discussing how parents are teaching their children about sexuality  -- although I did find this great book review by Just Five More Minutes on the book So Sexy So Soon: The New Sexualized Childhood, that looks like an interesting read.  Also, I found this somewhat heartening post by Ladyblog, featuring a study that seems to indicate that kids are actually having less sex than they used to.  Stlll, I'll pose the question here:  how do you talk to your children about their sexuality -- not the actual mechanics, but the psychology and emotions related thereto?

 

Karen Walrond is a writer and photographer

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WhatAboutMom 5 pts

<a href= "http://www.whataboutmomblog.com/">Jane @ What About Mom</a>

 Is it naive to expect that if (IF) I teach my kids not to steal, then they will not steal? (And that if they do steal, there will be consequences that they will have to face?)

Or if (IF) I teach my kids to have good manners, that they will learn to say please and thank you?

If we think we can teach children some things, and I think most of us consider it our duty to teach our children to not be racist, thieving, antisocial bigots, then why do we consider it impossible to teach our children chastity?

How can we discuss teaching children sexuality without any mention of theology?

And if you just want to say, "Well, they're going to have premarital sex either way, no matter what we try to teach" then why not assume the same attitude towards other unacceptable behavior? (Or is premarital sex NOT unacceptable behavior?)

(And the corollary is that, of course, children will exhibit bad manners at times; most kids will steal a pack of gum or a candy bar at some point in their childhood. Do we just shrug when these things happen? I'm not suggesting we go overboard and punish harshly, but we don't stop teaching correct principles just because we know they won't always be lived up to.)

mochadad 5 pts

While is it important to teach our daughters about sexuality, we need to make sure that we deliver the same message to our sons. We worry about our daughter's getting pregnant, but fail to realize that our sons can cause several pregnancies each year. Boys and girls need to learn how to value their bodies and their sexuality. We have to teach them at a young age. My olkder kids are 7 and 5 and my wife and I have started to teach them modesty and basic sex ed. We want them to learn from us rather than their peers. 

Mocha Dad

www.mochadad.com ( http://www.mochadad.com/ )

mavishuffmathews 5 pts

It was not a positive impact that this book had on me - though years ago. It reads as if women are so gullible as to give up their right to think - in deference to men.  Not so. Our power is equal to theirs - just different. We need to discover our own power.

 Mavis

smd042 5 pts

I think just having the conversation is critical.  I don't think my parents EVER talked to me about sex period, except maybe to explain the mechanics.  I think you need to talk about it early and often.  Starting young-- with what is appropriate for their age and understanding I think is key.  And if you don't want your kids to have sex before they are married-- you just have to set that standard.  Tell why you want that for them.  They may still choose otherwise, but instilling the values is going to give you a much greater chance of success.

ChristineMM 5 pts

The main point of an excellent book I read is that we must teach not just biology facts such as how PG happens and how to avoid STDs. Those are topics that schools do teach. Kids need more than just facts and science, what they also need is VALUES connected to them and the place to learn those is not school but from the PARENTS.

I reviewed this excellent book here:

http://thethinkingmother.blogspot.com/2007/11/what...

Months after the book came out this was the very topic on Dr. Phil's show with the author as the guest.

Another major point is American culture is saturated with sex so it is never too early. And that parents need to get over their shyness and embarassment and talk to their kids. Not once but over and over through the years.

 Recently I was annoyed that yet again I had to explain my menstrual period to my 8 year old son (after he walked in on me in the bathroom and was alarmed at sight of blood). I think it was time#3. I figured he should remember 'that talk'. However I then remembered that if kids can't remember to do a simple thing like flush the toilet or brush their teeth after telling them once in some years past why would the sex talk (and related values) have to happen just once?

Lastly in case anyone is wondering the book is religion neutral saying to figure your family's values and teach those things (not dictating to teach X, Y, and Z).

talleyklotz 5 pts

Thank you for opening up this important discussion.

I have 3 young girls. My oldest is 9 (almost 10). But i have also had to parent two different siblings the most reacent was a year with my 16 year old sister. This topic hits home.

I took a parenting class through our community center years ago. The teacher said something that has resonated with me since the class. We talk too much. We talk too much?! What she meant was that we don't spend enough time showing by example. I totally believe that. I have had many conversations with my kids about respecting themselves in the choices of friends they make. BUT I have really spent a lot of time showing them my friends and the choices i make regarding who I let into my life. I show them how to respect themselves enough to only allow kind people into their lives. I show them how to recognize that someone is unkind and we talk about how it feels to hang out with someone like that, someone that gives you that 'yucky' feeling. I point out how good I feel when I hang out with my friends and what each friend has to offer in their kindness and compassion. I also show them what I have to offer as a friend.We still talk, but I remind myself that they are watching EVERYTHING I do wether they or I comment on it or not.

How does this tie into sexuality? Well, I THINK, am opperating on the assumption that, am hoping that, showing them how to respect themselves and who they place around them early will eventually translate into the boys they choose to have in their lives. It's a theory. But it seems to follow that if they learn to hang out with people that they feel joyful and healthy around, that don't give them that yucky feeling, it will be easier to make good decisions about their bodies because they've already practiced on their 'self' and they already value their person enough to have made those decisions. Maybe the value of self they learn will translate into a freedom to express their sexuality in a healthy and positive way down the line.

Also, I totally support masterbation. I mean come on, how much more do you appreciate and value something when you REALLY know how it works?!

AmyAnne

www.parentingwithducttape.com ( http://www.parentingwithducttape.com )

SkinnyCleanFreak 5 pts

I'm a little older than most of you. I came up through the wild and free 70's if you know what I mean. I still have my original daisy dukes, OK? (and they still fit)

 I finally settled down somewhere around 30. My career was going pretty well. I finally had my daughter at age 35. By then I had turned into a prude, but I knew it was important to explain things to her in a way that she wasn't going to learn other than the hard way.

 We had pets that had been 'fixed', so it was easier to start those kinds of discussions. She was a tomboy for a long time, so I didn't need to get into the heavy stuff until she was about 16. I let her know all about how having sex screws up your ability to actually form a relationship because from then on, it's all about sex. She related because she has friends who are always talking about needing it.

Then she had a boyfriend for a couple of months. They just hung out. He always wanted sex, she refused. She finally got tired of it and dropped him.

So far, she is still a virgin. She feels ackward because she can't particiapte in the conversations going on around her - but she's proud that she hasn't just given it away.

She's been going out with a nice kid for a few months now, and she's probably getting closer, sigh. But I'll tell you, I'm very proud of her.

And a big part of why the kids are out doing it is the same as it always was - they are not getting the love and attention they need at home and they're looking for it somewhere else.

And on the body image - we eat healthy and we're active, so we are naturally thin. She knows how important it is to take care of her body. Don't get me wrong - we're not vegan, we eat chocolate, and pizza. We eat a healthy balanced diet - most of the time. So we never feel deprived. We don't diet. The other kids seem to like eating here. They appreciate the natural foods we eat. They're always talking about how they hate a lot of the food they have to eat. Surprise - your kids would really like it if you fed them healthy!

Boy, this got really long. I hope it helps!

Carole

CommonSenseLiving.com

cakeburnette 5 pts

We are getting to the age where this is a concern for us with our daughter.  And I have to thank you for writing so eloquently what I feel--I want my daughter to value herself enough to make sure sex is reserved for a boy who values her just as much! Fortunately, her friends all seem to have parents who feel the same way, so I hope they all grow up strong enough to avoid all of the horror stories we all hear these days about "hooking up" and sex games and pregnancy pacts.

LianaG 5 pts

Hi Karen,

Thanks for writing this piece, this is just a courtesy email to let you know that I linked your article on my site.

 with gratitude for your words and heart

Liana

www.enlightenedintimacy.com ( http://www.enlightenedintimacy.com )

LucindaA 5 pts

I have talked to my 7 year old about sex quite a bit already. Not sex actually but the reproductive system and how babies are made. That conversation is well-started and will continue as she grows. (With my son as well.)

But at first I assumed we hadn't talked about sexuality yet. And we haven't specifically. But we have talked about appropriate clothing and what makes it appropriate, dolls that focus on the wrong things (Bratz), and how beauty comes from within far more than from without.

I hope that these conversations will continue. I have always felt I wanted to teach my daughter to wait until she was emotionally ready for sex. I don't expect her to wait until marriage. But I do hope she will protect her heart and wait for that reason.

It is certainly a balancing act to inform without overwhelming. But I appreciate the reminder of why it is so important to get beyond the mechanics--for BOTH my daughter and my son.

Lynnita 5 pts

... for the shout-out. And for extending the conversation here.

I love your statement:

... there has to be a way to teach our children --
from a relatively young age -- about how sacred their bodies are, and
their sexuality is a powerful integral part of their whole person, to be cared for with as much attention as they care for any other parts of themselves.

I couldn't agree more. As a mother of two young girls, that is and will continue to be my challenge. Right now trying to answer their questions in a way that allows them to feel safe with me without burdening them with too much information is my greatest challenge.

Karen Walrond 5 pts

... you're a cool enough mom that not only does your kid talk to you about sex, but he refers his FRIENDS?

 Man, I totally want to be like you when I grow up.

 (thanks so much for sharing!)

K.

Deb Rox 5 pts

 My kids don't want me to write much about them online, but I'll say this:  About six months ago I had one of my favorite conversations ever with a friend (19 y-o) of my elder son. He was "referred" to me because he was confused by why his girlfriend sometimes cries after sex and my son thought I could help. I set the poor nervous guy a bit at ease by opening with "Yeah, they don't show that part in porn, do they?" He laughed so hard it broke my heart.  They have so much to learn, these sweet young people, but somehow I think a lot of them stay open to learning about themselves and about others in ways that are good.

Deb
www.debontherocks.com ( http://www.debontherocks.com/ )blog
www.3smartgirlz.com ( http://www.3smartgirlz.com/ ) consulting

MealMixer 5 pts

I have a 7th grade son and during his "health" class they had to label the parts of male and female reproductive anatomy and state the function.  The fact that clitoris got labeled "pleasure" brought up a whole new slant on sex for him.  My husnband and I teach our boys about respect and expectations right alongside safety.  How many of us really ever forgot the first guy who got what he wanted and disappeared?  Not the kind of man I want to raise.

AmberS 5 pts

You raise a lot of good points here.  My daughter is not quite 4, so we're currently working on teaching her to keep her clothes on in public.  I do try to impress on her that her body is her own.  Beyond that, at this age, I'm not sure what to say.

So I am trying to teach her about sexuality in an age-appropriate way, but I feel a little bit at a loss.  I think I'll check out some of your links, because I could use more ideas. 

~ Amber

www.strocel.com ( http://www.strocel.com )

Kalyn Denny 5 pts

I would love to meet her. Her book "The Beauty Myth" had a huge impact on me.

Kalyn Denny
Kalyn's Kitchen ( http://kalynskitchen.blogspot.com )