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Steinem's Opinion Identical to Stanton's in 1865

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Not much as changed since 1865 with regard to what pundits are labeling "gender backlash" today.

46% of white women voted for Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) in the New Hampshire primary, fueling her surge over Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL).

One only needs to compare the letters of two influential feminists to the newspapers of their generation to see "the opportunistic and unfortunately racist line of reasoning," according to Professor Angela Y. Davis in her 1981 book Women, Race, and Class.

"Black men were given the vote a half-century before women of any race were allowed to mark a ballot, and generally have ascended to positions of power, from the military to the boardroom, before any women (with the possible exception of obedient family members in the latter)," Gloria Steinem says in The New York Times yesterday.

On Dec. 26, 1865, Elizabeth Cady Stanton wrote to the editor of the New York Standard:

The black man is still, in a political point of view, far above the educated white women in this country. The representative women of the nation have done their uttermost for the last thirty years to secure freedom for the negro; and as long as he was lowest in the scale of being, we we willing to press his claims; but now, as the celestial gates to civil rights is slowly moving on its hinges, it becomes a serious question whether we had better stand aside and see 'Sambo' walk in the kingdom first.

Stanton's viewpoint shows that "the relationship between the battle for Black Liberation and women's rights was, at best, superficial," Davis says.

And Stanton "was determined to prevent further progress of Black people -- for 'Sambo' no less -- if it meant that white women might not enjoy the immediate benefits of that progress," Davis writes.

If Steinem's opinion is indeed popular -- as indicated by their voting pattern in the New Hampshire primary, white women remain the greatest obstacle to change in this country.

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backyardbeacon 5 pts

I genuinely appreciate the links each commenter has offered, and I intend to read each carefully as complementary research for my in-person interviews with historians.

Sincerely,

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5resolutions 5 pts

I was also disheartened to see Gloria Steinem take that line of reasoning in her op-ed. She also managed to frustrate and alienate young feminists with her argument that older women are more "radical" because they chose to vote for Clinton. Now the AP is reporting that it's racism versus sexism ( http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iGv_vLGOMKr44XM... ) in the press coverage of the election. I fear that all this divisive rhetoric is playing right into the hands of the Republicans, who so desperately need the Dems to start fighting amongst themselves.

Claire

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nellewrites 6 pts

it really isn't as sinister as some are making it out to be (read pollsters, who are looking to cover their failures.)

There are at least 3 very good candidates in the Democratic field. We've wavered for a year on who would get our vote. When I walked into the voting booth, I still had to stand and look at both names long and hard before finally voting for Hilary. If I could have voted for both, that would have been exactly what happened.

Discussing this with a friend, the one who swayed me, she ultimately did vote for Barack, which is amusing since my leanings where there and my vote went to Hillary. Should skin colour matter? Not to me, but it seems to want to in this thread... ok, she is the president of the local NAACP chapter. Now can we move past race as a factor here?

The race was volatile and prone to rapid shifting at the end, because people had to make a choice *at that point, and at that time.* If the election were held again the next day, it might well be totally different. It represents a snap shot of 8 January, 2008 and how we felt, after agonising over our votes.

And quite frankly, I seriously doubt that those most inclined to factor race into this decision would even be contemplating casting a vote for Hillary *or* Barack.

NH's vote was representative of one thing... NH on that one day, and that one day only.

nelle ( http://www.nelle2nelle.org/ )

nellewrites 6 pts

is that Stanton was disillusioned by efforts to set aside women's rights in favour of equal rights for men first.

I'm not here to argue she harboured not racist views; but on this score - some purportedly strategic plan that cut women out - she was right to object.

If anyone is interested in a fine historical account of events of this time, take a look at Lillian Faderman's well researched To Believe in Women - What Lesbians Have Done For America.

nelle ( http://www.nelle2nelle.org/ )

abswyg 5 pts

I had heard of Stanton as the pioneer of feminism, but didn't know about her run-in with racism. Fascinating history lesson. Not all white women share Steinem's view (I certainly don't). Those of us who grew up in a more equal than not world see Steinem's argument as completely irrelevant (I was taught to THINK, thank you very much, and not act based upon race or gender). Read this great post ( http://www.mommyneedscoffee.com/2008/01/08/i-am-a-... ) by BlogHer's Jenn Satterwhite on her blog (love the hanging chad thing).

Nor should we necessarily take what happened in New Hampshire as a pure indication of how white women feel about the race vs. sex issue. Perusing through Tami's blog after reading her fabulous essay here on BlogHer, I came across this interesting post ( http://whattamisaid.blogspot.com/2008/01/take-that... ) about people being tired of the pundits and postulation about who's going to win. A colleague and former New Hampshire resident told me after the New Hampshire primary she thought Hillary's win was as much about New Hampshire residents thumbing their noses at Iowa and the pundits (You can't tell ME who to vote for) than it was about anything else. (Why don't we ever hear the pundits pundi-cizing about media backlash?)

Not saying that feminism at the expense of racism attitudes don't exist among white women. They do. But this is complicated election in a complex world with alot of nuance and I'm not ready to give up believing that, as both Jenn and Tami say, the issues will ultimately prevail.

Amy S.
Up With Moms ( http://upwithmoms.blogspot.com )

Kim Pearson 5 pts

A number of us have been feeling the echoes of the Stanton Douglass debates in recent days. Glad to see this conversation informed by historical context. I'm going to do more thinking to. about how to move this conversation forward in light of this understanding.

Kim
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Lisa Stone 6 pts

Check out Mark Leibovich's"Rights vs. Rights: An Improbable Collision Course ( http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/weekinreview/13l... )" in today's New York Times.

Your article, and Tami's Dear Gloria Steinem: Ain't I a woman too ( http://www.blogher.com/dear-gloria-steinem-aint-i-... )?" have sent me back to the archives of my thinking and reading to marinate and grow my brain. While I do that, I've linked your headline from the homepage of BlogHer.com to make sure people see it. Thanks Backyard Beacon.

Lisa Stone
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