Stuffing vs. Dressing Food Safety Concerns, and What's It Called at Your House?

Nic of Baking Bites got me thinking of the long-time debate about stuffing vs. dressing to go with the Thanksgiving turkey. Many people think "stuffing" is cooked inside the turkey, while "dressing" is cooked on the side, but actually both terms refer to a mixture of bread and seasonings, and they can be used interchangeably. In the U.S. there are definitely regional differences, with stuffing used more in the north, and dressing in the south. Whether you call it stuffing or dressing, what's really important in the debate is how the stuffing or dressing should be cooked.

Wikipedia talks about food safety in its entry for stuffing and says the USDA recommends that stuffing is cooked outside the bird. However, if you check the actual USDA site you'll find some ideas for safely cooking stuffing inside the bird. Their suggestions include not using raw meats or shellfish in stuffing, stuffing the bird loosely, using a temperature of at least 325F to cook stuffed turkeys, using a food thermometer to be sure that turkey *and* stuffing have reached a temperature of at least 165F, and letting the bird rest before removing the stuffing.

Even if stuffing can be safely cooked inside the bird, these days many cooks prefer the results when the stuffing or dressing is cooked on the side. For one thing, without stuffing turkey will cook more quickly and leave more juice in the pan to make gravy. However, I typed "Thanksgiving stuffing dressing" into the Blogher food search widget to see what I would come up with, and found results that indicate the debate continues:

Cornbread Dressing

Dressing ~ It's Cornbread Dressing at Dianne's Dishes, and as you can see from the photo above, it's cooked outside the turkey.
Stuffing ~ From Mommy's Kitchen has Chourico Sausage Stuffing that she says can go in a turkey, a casserole dish, or the refrigerator if you're making it ahead.
Dressing ~ She's hedging her bets a bit by using the word stuffing in the recipe notes, but Retro Food says she usually sticks to this verson of Cornbread Dressing that mixes cornbread and bread crumbs, cooked in a pan.
Stuffing ~ Nic at Baking Bites always calls it stuffing because that's the term she grew up with. She likes Carmelized Onion Stuffing or Maple Cornbread Stuffing and prefers it cooked outside the bird.
Dressing ~ Gluten Free Cooking School shares her attempt to re-create her Grandmother's Gluten- Free Cornbread Dressing recipe, cooked outside the bird.
Stuffing ~ Scary Mama has a Scary Good Stuffing with instructions which say it can be cooked on the side or inside the bird.
Dressing ~ At Cora Cooks, it's dressing all the way, never cooked in the bird and preferably her family's Oyster Dressing Recipe.

So what's your take on the stuffing vs. dressing debate? Please weigh in with a comment telling your favorite name and cooking method, and include a recipe link or your favorite recipe if you have one.

Kalyn Denny writes about food and at BlogHer.com and shares her passion for cooking at Kalyn's Kitchen. Kalyn always calls it stuffing but cooks outside the bird, and her favorite is South Beach Friendly Whole Wheat Stuffing with Sage, Italian Sausage, and Pears.

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Stuffing

November 23, 2008 - 6:37pm

And it goes IN the bird. The only reason we cook a separate pan of it outside the bird is because we can't fit enough inside and it causes fights at the dining table. Even when there are only two of us. (We need some for leftovers too see...)

Mine is really basic and it's pretty much the same as my grandmother and mother made. Crumbled, stale white bread (we used to save up the heels of the bread in our freezer and use those), chopped onions, salt, pepper and most important of all summer savory. We throw in a bit of butter too because we're like that (everything is better with butter). For the extra on the side I add a wee bit of chicken stock (this is a recent addition). Sounds ridiculously simple and bland doesn't it? It's not.

One of the very first times the guy I now live with came to visit me (we lived in different cities) I made this stuffing with roast chicken. He mocked me, "That's all????" He ate his words. And most of the stuffing.

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Summer savory sounds fantastic!

November 23, 2008 - 6:40pm

I definitely agree that less is more when it comes to stuffing, although I have gotten to really like the one with Italian Sausage and pears. My mother always used the boxes of bread cubes that come pre-seasoned and just went from there! Her stuffing was always delicious too.

Kalyn Denny
Kalyn's Kitchen

 

Dressing

November 23, 2008 - 7:00pm

We had "Fakesgiving" dinner today. As the children were going around the table telling what they are thankful for, I looked all of the food and realized something was ... missing... so when it was my turn to talk about thankfulness... I said "I'm really thankful for dressing when we have it..."

Oops. TW had forgotten to make it, lol. She will NEVER live that down. Trust me.

Dressing, not stuffing. I like dressing. A lot. (And she forgot to make it! I hear Alanna laughing in the background, don't I?)

~Denise
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Very funny!

November 23, 2008 - 7:40pm

Dressing (which I call stuffing) is my very favorite Thanksgiving dish, so I would never forget to make it! I think you should lobby for another Thanksgiving dinner so you can have that yummy-sounding cornbread dressing!

Kalyn Denny
Kalyn's Kitchen

 

stuffffffing!

November 24, 2008 - 4:11pm

And it is both inside the bird and outside (because it is the best part of leftovers). I mix store-bought Italian bread, some store-bought rye bread (just a bit) and home-made sweetish cornbread. I add chopped onions, chopped celery, celery salt, eggs, milk, savory, fresh parsley, fresh chives and some poultry seasoning, salt and pepper.

I have made variations where I have also added sweet Italian sausage. Or chestnuts. (not both)

I plug up the bird's widest opening with an orange or an apple - It keeps everything moist, lends a delicate flavor and keeps the stuffing from leaking out.

I also start off the turkey upside down so the breast gets the drippings through it to keep it moist. I then turn the bird upright about 2/3 of the way through. It doesn't look quite as Norman Rockwellesque, but it tastes incredibly moist thru and thru.

~~ Contributing Editor, Mata H. also blogs right along at Time's Fool

 

Sounds good!

November 24, 2008 - 4:17pm

I like that orange or apple trick. I also cook my turkey upside down for part of the time.

My grandma Denny always made "wet" stuffing (inside the bird) and "dry" stuffing (cooked in a pan.)

Kalyn Denny
Kalyn's Kitchen

 

Mom's Stuffing

November 26, 2008 - 6:21am

I've made cornbread stuffing with cranberries and apple cider, stuffing with oysters, pecans, and all sorts of things but nothing beats my Mom's stuffing.  She uses (gasp!) bagged Pepperidge Farm Stuffing Mix and adds things like celery, onions, cranberries, butter, and herbs. It's always inside the bird and I am always in the kitchen before dinner looking to get the nice crusty part that sticks out from the turkey.  Yum, I can hardly wait. 

Janice
MealMakeoverMoms.com

 

Sounds good to me!

November 26, 2008 - 7:59am

My mom always used that stuffing mix that comes in a box too, and I think it's always delicious. Her recipe sounds just like your mom's minus the cranberries.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Kalyn Denny
Kalyn's Kitchen

 
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