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Surprises About French Women - Amazing Benefits Support Gender Inequality

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The New York Times reviewed the gender-equality condition of French women. While they have some benefits that could make an American woman greedy with envy, the overall condition in French life is not consistently equal for French women. Here are some of the benefits that may seem eye-popping to us.

After giving birth,the government pays for:

"...an extended course of vaginal gymnastics, complete with personal trainer, electric stimulation devices and computer games that reward particularly nimble squeezing. The aim, said Agnes de Marsac, a physiotherapist who runs such sessions: "Making love again soon and making more babies."

Perineal therapy is as ubiquitous in France as free all day nursery schools, generous family allowances, tax deductions for each child, discounts for large families on high-speed trains, and the expectation that after a paid, four-month maternity leave mothers are back in shape -- and back at work.

Courtesy of the state, French women seem to have it all: multiple children, a job and, often, a figure to die for."

While that would seem to imply that French women "have it all", including the secrets leading to the book, French Women Don't Get Fat, numerous facts about the workplace indicate that the glass ceiling is still soundly in place.

The PEW Research Center asked a number of questions about global sexual equality lately. One was, by country, "Who has the better life, men or women?" France said :
75% Men !4% Women 9% The same 2% Don't Know
The closest winner for men was Poland with only 55% saying "Men". France was overwhelmingly the "winner" for males.

In a further question : Men get more opportunities that pay well.
France - agree 80% Disagree 20%
USA - agree 68% Disagree 28% DK 4 %
(Germany, Spain, India and Japan all scored in the 80's, with a spread closer to France than to the USA.)

The Pew Survey also adds:

"in many countries where the view that men get more job opportunities than women predominates, female respondents are more likely than male respondents to say that is the case; in particular, women in those countries are often more inclined than men to completely agree that there is gender inequality in employment opportunities. For example, about six-in-ten women in France (61%) and Germany (60%) completely agree that men get more opportunities than women for jobs that pay well; in contrast, 37% of men in France and 39% in Germany are in complete agreement. "

The Times article also points out:

French women appear to worry about being feminine, not feminist, and French men often display a form of gallantry predating the 1789 revolution. Indeed, the liberation of French women can seem almost accidental -- a byproduct of a paternalist state that takes children under its republican wings from toddler age and an obsession with natality rooted in three devastating wars."At the origin, family policy wasn't about women, it was about Germany," said Geneviève Fraisse, author of several books on gender history. "French mothers have conditions women elsewhere can only dream of. But stereotypes remain very much intact."

In 1998, there was a bill passed in France that political parties had to have equal amounts of men and women on their ballots or pay a fine. The parties have largely chosen to pay the fine. After all, it was not until 1945 that women got the vote. It was not until 1965 that a woman was allowed to work, open a bank account and sell her own property without the consent of her husband.

In the World Economic Forum’s 2010 Global Gender Gap Report covering 114 countries, France was only 46th, well behind behind the U.S. at 19th. They were even beaten out by Kazakhstan at 41st and Jamaica at 44th. The study further found that French women earn just 74 cents to every dollar earned by men (the US is only 83), and hold only 18% of seats in the National Assembly (the US is 20%.) So while others are ahead in those measures, we are standing close.

The blogosphere had a lot to say about the article:

Blogger, Emilie Johnson says:

This is the heart of the issue - not whether women should work or shouldn't work, not whether babies should go to daycare, but that feminism (to me) is about changing the geography

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Ginny K. M. 5 pts

Fascinating article (and fascinating reactions, too). It's hard not to envy the support systems in place for French moms.

That said, I lived and worked in France several years ago, and I was very struck by the way in which my French friends were so focused on being "feminine," not "feminist," as said above. The pressure to be thin, in particular, was very noticeable and far worse than anything I've seen in the U.S. I remember one ad for a sugar substitute which featured a drawing of a thin, elongated woman, with the caption, "I'm wearing my eight-year-old sister's bikini!" My jaw dropped.

It was fifteen years ago, so perhaps things have changed somewhat since then. But based on what I experienced back then, the central premise of this article does ring true.

Liz Henry 5 pts

It astonishes me how this kind of article can get written without mention of the women who fought hard political and social battles to create and get those benefits from the state.

Here's the very tip of the iceberg of that battle - the Wikipedia article on Feminism in France ( https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fem... ). I've read so many inspiring books about French feminist activists and writers of the 18th and 19th century that it amazes me the NYT can frame maternity benefits (and the vote!) as something that just "happened" after WWII.

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Melissa Ford 5 pts

Nothing really surprised me (well, except for the term "vaginal gymnastics") but I do think it points to the fact that there can never be a perfect system. Not just because everyone has a different set of needs and wants that have to be fulfilled, but because in order to have one gain, you usually have to have a loss or ceiling in another area.

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fmaggi 5 pts

Having just returned from the WIN-Women's Int'l Networking Conference in Paris, I can say, that women are still making inroads...But, for those of us in Europe/USA have a lot to learn from our "under-developed sisters", where often running businesses & the household is the norm.
Good news however from the French IBM CEO - a few years' back, he gave every woman a raise to match the men in the same depts.

And, for a look at what women are doing worldwide, check out conference blog:
http://www.winconference.net/eng/Conference-blog

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ModaMama 5 pts

I live in a socialized system and there are sacrifices, but never at the sake of my child's health. Despite a system that my patronize the male above the female, I appreciate one which provides for mothers to have children without her job being threatened, assured maternity leave, allotted breastfeeding time, leave when those children are ill, and government sponsored care when they are ill. You are not expected to fend for yourself. These aren't free benefits, socialized systems pay high taxes but in the end take care of the entire population instead of preying on the helpless.

Perhaps you do pay for these rights with the glass ceiling firmly overhead. I see this as the compromise for what is being taken out of the system. When I go on maternity leave, my job and government supplement me with full benefits, I am drawing out of a community bank. As a married women I pay no income tax and have a monthly stipend for every child (single benefits for each birth). In Israel as in several European nations, fathers may take paternity leave and extend this time in place of the mother if the family so chooses.

But you can't demand it both ways. You either want a genderless equality that doesn't see you as a mother, but as a worker, or you want to take some time off, be with your newborn, choose to have children over the course of your career and not fit them in on lunch-break. I don' think that Feminism is being done any disservice by protecting family rights in these systems, but it is a different system and you cannot impose a singular value set on a foreign culture.

America might still see itself as #1 on the economic scale but it's infant mortality rates coupled with unneeded C-sections scheduled for convenience actually place health care to new-mothers and children somewhere shockingly low(44th in infant mortality rates).

In short, kegels are no laughing matter if it means healthier mothers in the long run. Just look at the way American Obstetrics is heading http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/17796664

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Judy Schwartz Haley 6 pts

Don't forget the recent issues in France where Muslim women are not allowed to freely practice their religion, particularly they do not have the freedom to wear their own choice of clothing.

Judy Schwartz Haley is currently battling breast cancer while raising her toddler daughter.  She is a full time college student, as is her husband.  It's a lot to juggle, and she blogs about it all at CoffeeJitters.Net ( http://coffeejitters.net/blog )