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Laina Dawes is a contributing editor for Blogher and is also a music journalist whose writings can be found at Exclaim! Canada and...
 
 
 
 

Women Talking About Women in Music: War Stories From a Male-Dominated Industry

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A couple weeks ago, I headed down to Austin, Texas to attend the South by Southwest Music Festival to participate in a panel discussion called Women Write Women's Experiences in Music. We discussed the representation of women music journalists and the experiences we have had interviewing musicians, going on tour with bands and navigating our way in a male-dominated environment. While there are certainly more women journalists now than when I was a kid reading Circus or Hit Parader magazines, the lack of representation still brings out the sexism and misogyny within the industry.

I was accompanied by some very talented music journalists. Jessica Hopper writes about music for The Chicago Reader; she released her first book, The Girls Guide to Rocking, last year. Amanda Petrusich wrote It Still Moves: Lost Songs, Lost Highways and the Search for the Next American Music. Moderator Holly George-Warren has written countless book on musicians and the music industry. Jaan Uhelszki was one of the founding editors of Creem magazine; she's now editor-at-large for Relix.

The panel served two purposes: to share experiences and encourage young women to get involved in music journalism, and to showcase our own work as writers. I was there doing some pre-promotional hype for my upcoming book, What Are You Doing Here? Black Women in the Metal, Hardcore and Punk Scenes.

The afternoon started with a pre-panel discussion where we introduced ourselves and discussed our various projects. Legendary singer/songwriter Country Joe McDonald sat with us as we prepared and spouted a few profanities when we regaled him with some of our horror stories -- such as the male musician who sat down to be interviewed in nothing but a loosely-tied towel ... with his legs spread.

The panel was pretty successful, I think (outside of one woman who laughed when Holly read out the title of my book). People seemed to enjoy the discussion, and most important for me, I learned some very interesting things about how to talk about issues affecting women at a male-dominated music festival. This topic seems like an interesting and common issue (don't women make up at least 50% of the population?) -- but if not handled well, it can lose the interest of the audience.

Don't whine: Any discussion surrounding women in an industry that primarily consists of males is vulnerable to being dismissed -- despite the real validity of openly discussing war stories that usually center on sexual discrimination, harassment, or not being treated with the credibility that a male journalist usually gets. But if you point out a problem, back it up with a solution. Jaan encouraged women in editorial positions to hire women –- with more in the music industry, perhaps these issues will disappear.

Tell an interesting story: Good stories capture your audience. Some of the stories told in this panel were extremely difficult. We heard about sexually inappropriate behaviour and physical threats of violence by angry musicians over an unfavourable review. I told about getting my life threatened at a metal festival and heard Jessica's horrific account of a nightmarish interview with a hip-hop artist that resulted in a lawsuit (she won). Sometimes the line between encouraging and deterring women musicians into getting into music journalism and the industry seemed very thin, but it's important to let the newbies know what they are getting into. The fact that we all seemed to get past through the difficulties seemed to leave the audience with a positive feeling rather than a somber one.

Be truthful: I felt a bit weird about how many of the challenges we discussed focused on our male colleagues or the male musicians we had interviewed. For me, the challenges writing about metal have been rarely been focused on men. Even though the people who had threatened physical harm were men, the most hurtful situations I've found myself in involved women. I felt that I could easily dismiss sexist behaviour because it just seemed so juvenile; what concerns me more is the physical aggressiveness I experience with other women at shows, primarily when I am present in a professional manner as a photographer and/or with a press pass.

But how do you critically discuss the interactions between women in the music scene at a panel that's supposed to promote the work of women? We have to talk about these gray areas, such as: Not all women are our friends because we

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Karyn Cooks 5 pts

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It's been a while since I worked in the music business - oh hell - it was the 90's which is like a lifetime ago! I used to say that each year served in that industry was like dog year math. So two years became fourteen, and so on.

On the upside, I will never forget hearing our first artist get coveted airplay on LA's KROQ. It was like a scene out of a movie with our tiny 3-person team completely spun out of control immediately on hearing what was a very familiar - to us - opening drum riff. We were the little engine that climbed up the hill that everyone said was impossible, yet there we were. Fantastic moment in time.

Oh. Did I mention I was the only woman? Ok, moving along...

As soon as we joint ventured with a major label replete with its old school mentality and competitiveness, everything changed. In fairness it changed for us as an indie label with potential, but it changed most dramatically for me.

Our key major label publicist chatting with me at a Grammy party imparted this wisdom: I could either be a groupie or a be a bitch. Wow. It was like someone slapped me in the face. She was considered to be very successful and accomplished, and it was clear which role she adopted. Still, I thought this can't be the case.

Shortly after, the drummer from our most successful band on the rise grabbed me in a most disrespectful way. Again, to be fair, the rest of the band was horrified. I can still hear the bass player saying, "Dude - so uncool - she works hard for us." In fact, he did apologize that day AND it weighed so heavily on him that he REapologized 13 years later via Facebook.

I could go on but I won't. And at the risk of anyone thinking I'm bitter, I assure you I'm not. I hired many women to work with us and some remain my dearest friends. But since we're sharing war stories...well...those are some of mine. I'm glad I went down that road and met some amazing people, most especially the talented musicians we worked with every day. Ya just have to remember to hold your head high, speak your mind, and put on your girl armour.