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Taking Obese Children From Their Parents

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Overweight BabyRecently, Harvard University child obesity expert Dr. David Ludwig advocated for the removal of severely obese children from their homes. An estimated two million children in the United States would qualify for this government intervention. Say what?

In the Journal of the American Medical Association article, Dr. Ludwig along with Lindsey Murtagh, a lawyer and researcher at Harvard’s School of Public Health, wrote, “In severe instances of childhood obesity, removal from the home may be justifiable, from a legal standpoint, because of imminent health risks and the parents' chronic failure to address medical problems."

First, let me note that I would never want to see a child’s health at risk because of neglectful, lazy parents. However, I have major issues with the solution that Dr. Ludwig offers. Here’s why:

1. The United States is the only developed nation that doesn’t require some form of paid maternity leave. Since the government has left that little treasure on the table for companies to offer as a benefit if they choose, or for states to require of businesses within their borders, most working women do not receive any pay during the legally protected period of absence. (California is the only state that requires companies to provide pay during maternity leave.)

Because most women need to work in order to survive as single parents or as a double income home, they are forced to return to their jobs much sooner than they would like which can create obstacles in being able to nurse for the one year’s time recommended by the American Association of Pediatrics. Studies have indicated that bottle-fed babies are more likely to become obese. Instead of taking kids away from their families, the government should focus its efforts on passing legislation giving mothers the financial freedom to stay at home and breastfeed.

2. A household where parents are working during times that children are out of school often results in latch-key kids. I know, I was one of them. Instead of children coming home to an empty house and filling their time with snacks, TV and video games – which have all been blamed for weight gain -- we should be able to send to our children to state-funded after-school play programs.

Imagine this: The school bell rings and your child is done with academics for the day. Instead of walking home and spending hours alone, your child goes to the school playground or gym were there is supervised free play, sports and games. At the end of the school day, your child has become smarter, stronger and is ready to relax and go to bed.

3. Since when did the foster care system become the model for raising children? I don’t know about you, but the last time I checked the system had an awful reputation for churning out physically, mentally and sexually abused children.

A 2003 study published in Child Trends Research Brief, showed that almost one-third (29 percent) of children in foster homes are living below the poverty threshold. Additionally, the U.S. General Accounting office found “young foster children do not receive adequate preventive health care while in placement, many significant problems go undetected, or, when diagnosed are not evaluated and treated.”

Finally, approximately 40 percent of the children who graduate from the foster care system at age 18 will become homeless or be imprisoned within four years, according to a University of Wisconsin study. Another study stated that, "former foster youth are found to suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) at two times the level of U.S. war veterans."

So this, Dr. Ludwig, is the crippled system that's supposed to make fat kids better?

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MyHappyCrazyLife 6 pts

I find it incredibly ironic that on the day I'm reading this article the ads on either side of the page are for Hostess Chocolate Creme Twinkies and Donettes. There are FOUR separate ads for these products - two of which stay in place on the right and left as I scroll down to read the story.

Daria Giron 9 pts

I absolutely don't think it's the solution - here's my post about it...

http://www.mominmanagement.com/4724/are-fat-kids-parents-guilty-of-child-abuse/

Lisa Bunnage 6 pts

I wrote an article about this and did a news appearance to discuss how to prevent or stop bad habits ... for your children's sake.

No, I don't believe that taking obese children away from their parents is the answer. That's just piling on more problems for those poor children to overcome.

Here it is: http://bratbusters.com/raising-obese-children-child-abuse/

Lisa Bunnage

justlinda 24 pts

Lisa Bunnage I disagree with your assessment that it's not about school, peers, fast-food, etc. that it's just about the parents. In fact, I feel insulted by that. This is a systemic problem. Parents cannot do it without the proper infrastructure to support them. I think that laying it solely on the shoulders of those parents is merely a way for some people to feel safe in their little "it couldn't happen to me" bubble. It makes people feel safer, and perhaps even superior, to lay blame solely on bad parenting.

I am attuned to this topic, and I assure you that I see a LOT of overweight kids who have normal weight parents.

I also have an overweight child and I can tell you that what is the norm at school, with her peers, at the ballpark, commercials on television, etc. does have an impact on her behavior. I'm not saying that I don't have the primary influence, because I do. But there is more beyond parenting to this problem.

Karla@FamilybyDesign 6 pts

I am an adoptive mom of 3 from foster care and an author/speaker/radio host on the subject. Foster care is NOT THE ANSWER. I believe we are looking more at a "teaching moment" for both parent and child than a removal. Most parents that go way overboard with their childrens access to unhealthy food may have issues with food themselves. The answer is to HELP those that want/need help, not harm the family unit!

Karla@FamilybyDesign 6 pts

Debunking the Myth of the Birth Mom and Foster Care:

http://toginet.com/podcasts/familybydesign/FamilyByDesignLIVE_2011-08-02.mp3?type=showpage

CounselorMom 5 pts

I feel bad for the baby in the photo. The baby is just a chunky monkey at this stage, lol, not obese. LOL. My son was chunky like that and is just fine now.

justlinda 24 pts

I hate this topic. It turns human beings into statistics and commodities to be debated. If you turn to turn it back to focusing on human beings, you're told that that is just anecdotal and the problem is broad and general and not about individuals.

The problem with regard to obesity and children is about individuals - a lot of them. And I agree that there is a problem, but REALLY? Take the children away? Seriously?

I have 5 kids and one of them is obese. She doesn't have irresponsible parents who aren't aware of good nutrition. She has good healthcare. As a baby, she was exclusively breastfed for 6 months. For most of her life, she's been home with an adult (even though I work, she's either had her father or her grandparent to care for her). She is active in karate, softball, soccer, volleyball. We have a keen focus on healthy eating.

And yet she is overweight. Nay, obese.

I'd love to see someone try to take to take her. I'd feel quite comfortable using the phrase "over my dead body" for this one. It astonishes me that anyone would be willing to even crack that door open a tiny bit.

If there is a case against individual parents for abuse or neglect, make that case. Perhaps the child's obesity is an effect and the parents abuse/neglect is the cause. Don't make the primary criteria the child's weight. That would be a terrible mistake.

melindarp 6 pts

Kids are perceptive. Sending them the message that they were taken from their parents for being too fat would do wonders for their emotional and physical development. What a brilliant way to help at-risk kids. I'm sure the emotional scarring would be spectacular. I can't imagine a better way to create or re-enforce an eating disorder.

katrap40 6 pts

Thanks for posting this (and to the person who rescued it and made sure I saw it). I've been wanting to write something about this but have been so livid, I couldn't think clearly about what to say. You said it really well. In so many ways, our society has decided to focus on "childhood obesity" as the problem rather than childhood poverty, which is clearly the much more pernicious issue. It's because we love to make everything a personal problem, rather than a social one.

jillicious 15 pts

If you take the children from there parents, who do you give them to? We inadvertently came across some foster parents (a boy from my sons school) who were seriously overweight, and then went to the hospital lab where the manager was morbidly obese.

Aren't eating disorders about control issues and stress and trauma?

Milestonemom 6 pts

It is not straightforward and as simple as your article suggests. Our government can't even come to agreement on how to settle the debt ceiling issue. And healthcare reform has made good health care almost unavailable to anyone but the rich or those on Medicare.

The fact is that obesity in infants and children is a health risk. Overweight babies develop more fat cells which stay with them for life. That predisposes them to a life-long battle with overweight.

Overweight infants are almost always developmentally delayed. The reason for this is that their weight exceeds their developmental strength and ability. It is harder for them to bring their heads into midline, to hold up their head, to turn over, to prop on elbows and then prop on hands, to pull forward .... etc. Cognitive development is dependent on exploration. Exploration is dependent on movement. A heavy baby has a harder time moving, just as a heavy adult finds it difficult to carry extra weight. Babie are born with millions of neurons that have a window of opportunity for neural connecitons to be made. If the window is missed, the opportunity is gone forever. Potential is lost.

The problem doesn't stop there, Excess weight puts young children at risk for diabetes, heart problems, respiratory problems and more. Obese kids are often bullied.

I truly believe that whatever the circumstances,a parent has an obligation to their child. That includes not putting them at health risk. There are always exceptions. There are conditions such as ROHHAD and other serious disorders in which obesity is a symptom of the disease. I am only talking about children without underlying problems. In those cases, parents can do many things to foster healthy eating in their children. They can provide a role model, educate their children and keep junk food and sodas out of the house. Even babies can have their intake adjusted as long as they are getting enough nutrition.

In a utopian society, perhaps, everyone would look out for everyone else, and governments would do more for individuals than they do for corporations. In the meanwhile, children are dependent on their parents.

JennaHatfield 278 pts

Milestonemom "Overweight infants." I hate that term. My older son was an "overweight infant." My younger son, fed the same way with the same genetic material, was an "underweight infant." 97th and 3rd percentiles respectively. My "overweight infant" crawled sooner than my skinny baby. After they began moving and crawling and shaking and generally non-stop running along with eating healthy foods when it came time to do so, they now find themselves in the 50th percentiles.

Beyond that, what is overweight for an infant? Formula fed babies and breastfed babies gain weight differently. If you compare the child to the wrong chart, they'll look like they're not developing properly. Until the US starts adopting WHO charts and recognizing that babies who get breastmilk are going to look, feel and eat differently than formula fed babies, "overweight infants" will always be a misnomer.

Milestonemom 6 pts

JennaHatfield I think you misunderstood. Certainly, babies gain weight differently and develop at various rates. My observations have nothing to do with standards generated by WHO or any other organization. I have literally treated hundreds (perhaps a thousand) babies in my career and babies who were too large in relation to developmental ability were at risk. There is no way to assess how much potential is unrealized when a baby is delayed. Research does indicate that there are very specific time "windows" for skills. Miss the window and the skill can never be attained. In some cases it can be insignificant. In other cases, it can be very significant. If a baby is heavy and has a hard time moving agianst gravity, cause and effect experience is delayed, spatial relations are not as well developed, visual perceptual skills may be under-developed. Physical and cognitive development occur together. Lagging developement can result in long term problems. If a baby is chubby and strong and ddeveloping well, there is no concern. But that is not as common as what my co-workers and I used to glibly call the "F & L" syndrome (fat and lazy). So my comments were intended for babies who were late meeting their milestones. The relationship between weight and physical milestones might not be recognized by parents. Early Intervention therapists see this issue more often than any other. My intention here is only to make note of the issue and why it may be more problematic than is apparent. I cover this issue often on my therapy blog, Milestone Mom.

By the way, I believe that many factors have to be considered before deciding that weight is an issue. But for the most part, those cute and chubby babies do tend to lag developmentally behind their slimmer peers.

JennaHatfield 278 pts

Milestonemom I really have nothing more to say. I'll go hug my "fat and lazy" baby who has turned into an amazing little boy that doesn't know how to stop moving. Goodness.

Milestonemom 6 pts

JennaHatfield Respectfully, I was speaking in generalities. I did say that some babies develop beautifully. But there are still a significant number who end up needing therapy later on. I apologize if anything I wrote was taken personally. I worked 16 years as an early intervention and school-based therapist.

plogan721 7 pts

denverdoni I have to disagree with you. Yes a person should take responsibility in the raising of their children, sometimes a woman does not choose to have a child. If a person cannot get free health care, then that person is neglectful of their child's health. If that happens, then the child is taken away from the parents anyway. No matter how you look at it, that child is STILL in the system. The best way to prevent this is through education. Besides that, why can't the employer pay for a mother's health care, which include leave of absence when a woman has the child? Payment can come in the form of education. I do not think you are looking at the whole picture. I see this: you are in your little world, where everything is perfect. Your friends, who are mostly couples make a nice salary. They can afford to have no government help at all. This means no food stamp card, no monthly trips to the welfare office, and everyone knows how to take care of their kids. Well, not everyone can afford those things, and if the government and the hospitals would teach people how to properly teach these things to the lower class after the baby is born, then there would be no problems.

I sorry, I am judging you, but to me it sounds like you are doing the same thing that Dr Ludwig is doing. Judging without knowing the situation of each individual. Again, foster care is not the answer. Educating the person is.

denverdoni 12 pts

The government should do this, the government should do that, blah blah, I take issue with your argument because NOWHERE do I see an argument for personal responsibility. If you choose to have children then you should make that choice based on whether or not you can care for the child. I can't agree that your employer should pay you to stay home to breastfeed and why should we provide free child care to everyone because they chose to have children then leave them for someone else to raise. I know of many parents who make the choice to sacrifice things so that they can raise their own children. If a child is truly at risk then of course the government has to protect the child, we have laws against abuse and neglect. That is a criminal act. We should address the foster care system and improve it but in some cases it is imperative to remove a child from a life threatening situation.

How about if people were held accountable for their choices, such as not getting free health care at their whim? Maybe if they are paying the bills then they would take the care to give their child a proper diet and reduce their health risks. There is a direct connection between how we rely now on the government to take care of everything and how lazy and irresponsible people are becoming. It is not always easy to turn off the cartoons and take your child to the park, or go to the store and buy fresh fruits and vegetables and prepare a nutritious meal, but we just continue to make excuses for those who choose not to do the right thing and expect everyone else to pay the price by demanding another government fix. If people had to pay the consequences for their actions they would learn to act responsibly.

in_mandyland 6 pts

Wow. I don't even know where to begin.

Your lack of compassion for those who find themselves in an unenviable and difficult situation boggles my mind. You obviously have no experience with poverty, let alone the multi-generational poverty that permeats our society. Nor do you have a concept of what it means to have enough money to buy fresh fruit or bread and milk, but not both.

Beyond that...

I have this really weird notion that health care SHOULD be provided to all.

A dear friend lost her fight with cancer four years ago. She was 55. She worked two, sometimes three jobs all her life. She was a hard worker, a good mother, an amazing friend. But her employers didn't have to provide her with medical insurance because they kept her hours below the minimum required.

When she was diagnosed, she was told that there were treatments available that would prolong her life five to ten years, depending on how she responded. But she couldn't afford it. No matter how many fundraisers we held, we could not raise enough money to keep her alive, to buy her precious time.

What is the price of life? What is the price of time?

You've obviously never had to make those choices or watch a loved one die because they didn't have "enough money". To me, it's not a "whim". It's barbaric that in a country as wealthy and advanced as ours, we have people dying because they don't have enough money to pay for treatment.

And, for the record, I would gladly pay the price if I knew every man, woman and child in this country would have access to adequate health care. To me, it's just the right thing to do.

JennaHatfield 278 pts

I just wanted to commend you for tackling such a difficult subject. It boggles my mind. Foster care is already overwrought. Let's take care of the kids that need the care and change what needs to be changed before taking even more children away needlessly.

MommyCribNotes 5 pts

JennaHatfield Thanks Jenna. You totally understand where I was coming from. I'm not negating the personal responsibility parents should take in raising their children. I just don't want to throw children from the fry pan into the fire so to speak by putting them into a broken system.

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Kristin Collins
Kristin Collins

That is THE most ridiculous thing I have ever friggin heard!!!!! You have kids that are living with "parents" that don't give a crap about thier kids and or they do or sell drugs and you want to do this???? Teach them proper nutrition but don't take them away!!! NO THEY SHOULD NOT DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glenda Whaley Ryans
Glenda Whaley Ryans

Has the world gone crazy, completely nuts...This makes me so sad and mad at the same time. I'm speechless!!!!

Andrea Gillespie
Andrea Gillespie

What a bunch of bunk. Big brother does NOT get to decide what I feed my kids. They're my kids. We are healthy eaters, but that is our choice.

Linda Castillo-Arreola
Linda Castillo-Arreola

This is unheard of......however some type of counseling or nutrition guidance should be provided.

Cathi Walsh
Cathi Walsh

i did not say that foster care is better -- i called CPS because the child's life was in danger and CPS helped mom get her act together

Ardee Eichelmann
Ardee Eichelmann

This is the most absurd and ludicrous idea I have heard in a long time. If ANYONE had a CLUE about what foster care can be like and how a disrupted parent/child bond is never fully repaired they would not make such asinine recommendations.

Barb Lambert
Barb Lambert

Absolutely not..until they fix the system they need to leave the family put and try to help them, but no amount of helping is going to work unless they want to be helped and realize there is a problem.

Tina DaBella
Tina DaBella

ABSOLUTELY NOT. That anyone thinks this might be ok is extremely frightening. So, what would be next, maybe we should take Children away from parents that smoke cigarettes. Take kids away from parents that work and don't stay home and raise them. What about taking kids away from parents that use too much salt in their food because it is unhealthy and causes heart disease. Oh, I know if a parent is overweight we should remove the children because they are a bad example. Maybe we should have the government install cameras and microphones in every home so they can monitor how you are raising your children to decide if you should be able to keep them. These ridiculous examples are NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SUGGEST.

Do you people really think that the answer is foster care and the government deciding whether every decision you make is approved enough to keep your child? What is wrong with you people to think the government will do a better job and has any right to do this. There are already too many truly abused children in the foster care system that is overburdened and understaffed.

I get sick of people expecting and wanting the government to do everything for them. I get sick of people that think it's any of their business at all.

Kasia Price
Kasia Price

how is it difficult to eat healthy? Squash is easy & cheap to grow. We just had zucchini halved w some swiss cheese (not a lot!) and parsley, bake 350 for 1/2 hr. serve w whole grain bread. easy, cheap, quick, HEALTHY!

Misty O'Brien
Misty O'Brien

These parents should be educated and assisted, not treated like criminals. How are they supposed to change how they feed their kids if the resources aren't there?

Catherine Siakaluk Dabels
Catherine Siakaluk Dabels

This is a tough one for sure. As a foster parent, and a really good one at that, I believe strongly that children belong with their parents. But I also believe that for a very short time I could change the life of a child by helping them shed a few damaging pounds. If bio parents are willing and on board I think in home support would be most beneficial. Parents who refuse to get on board though may need a scare to see that childhood obesity is a dangerous thing. and extremely abusive. There would have to be some very special supports and very strict guidelines for it to work. It could not be under the same rules and regulations as traditional foster care or it wouldn't work. I would love to set up a pilot program for this. I'm in Canada though, and it's important to recognize that our foster care system is different, and more successful, than the states.

Mae Webb Winter
Mae Webb Winter

Spend a month's worth of foster care $ on education and nutritional assistance for the families. If there is zero improvement at that time... Re-evaluate surely. But removal of the child should be in the last resort category.

CoreyAnn Khan
CoreyAnn Khan

Cathi Walsh and others that agree with putting these kids in the foster care system, I'd love to invite you guys at any time for a tour of what "real life" is like for a child in the system. Less than half ever graduate high school. We never could get important resources like DENTAL CARE covered. I couldn't get school books covered when one of our kids actually did Running Start (college credits in high school years).

One of our children had super-ventricular tachycardia and needed major heart surgery and it took TWO YEARS to get through the proper red tape channels! Again, I have seen the worst-of-the-worst kids who have been sexually abused, born drug addicted, and who have been near death physically abused, or simply abandoned by parents who don't care for them go through the system.

TELL ME HOW FOSTER CARE IS BETTER? I wish people would wake up and see how the system is failing and yet its an "out of sight, out of mind". It is not what many people romantically view it as. The kids who enter very rarely break free of the crushing burden that it causes in their lives. :(

Joan Redd
Joan Redd

That's outrageous! Foster care is no better - it's often worse! Does this physician know anything about the foster care system in this country? Obviously not, or he wouldn't say anything so STUPID! Obviously, his MD stands for "mindless dickhead"!

BlogHer
BlogHer

CoreyAnn I thought about asking that myself. - Denise

CoreyAnn Khan
CoreyAnn Khan

AS A FOSTER PARENT FOR YEARS my only question is: "HOW IS FOSTER CARE BETTER?" The foster care system is already overwhelmed with REAL cases of extreme child abuse & neglect. I don't know how taking an overweight kid away from their otherwise "normal" family unit and putting them into group housing, multiple placements, caseworker turnover/burnout, and putting them into the system makes their life any better!?! I for one would think that this would only make their life worse. They will no longer feel comfortable or safe. They will lose trust in adults and will no longer build positive relationships with others. I have seen so many kids who come into care that were fairly average who then feel despondent, depressed, and end up with mental disorders or even issues with crime/drugs/sex learned from other "worse cases" in the system.

HOW IS THIS BETTER!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Tiffany Whitson
Tiffany Whitson

Oh good link for everyone and parents of obsese kids....http://myfitnesspal.com

Tiffany Whitson
Tiffany Whitson

Its so sad to see kids who are really overweight & kids with silver caps on their baby teeth cause no one gives them the right foods or takes them outside to play, just eat junk food (and yeah its cheaper for a lot of people) and just sit in front of the tv or games all the time. My think I am cruel cause I won't let them have candy everyday or junk for desert all the time or pop, juice, kool-aid. They are only allowed 1 cup of juice a day & the rest of the time they get water & milk for breakfast. Outside activities have been hard lately with triple digit temps nearly all summer, but the other day I had them doing jumping jacks and they stretch with me before I workout and do some of the workouts with me. I am overweight & I don't want that for my kids & I am trying to lose weight myself, I don't want them to deal with that, so I monitor what they have & make sure they have healthy things & are active. People who don't do that and have obsese kids are KILLING their OWN kids!

Karen Sykes
Karen Sykes

Ruling by force is for the weak.

J Lindsey Morgan
J Lindsey Morgan

If your child is obese then its abuse. Parents make all sorts of excuses and blame their poor parenting on their child. So many parents don't want to be responsible and accountable and actually DO the work involved in parenting so blame things like 'being busy' or 'faulty genes'. No, just bad, lazy, over-indulgent parents raising unhealthy, obese, spoiled children. Just the other day I saw a very overweight lady in the grocery store...her daughter was IN the buggy(the big part)and she was HUGE. My daughter casually said 'oh, thats a girl in my class' which meant she was around 7 or 8. My daughter went up and said hi and I asked the mom if the little girl was feeling under the weather. The mom remarked that no, she wasn't sick, but she NEVER made her walk all the way around the store...it would make her too tired! are you effing kidding me?! Meanwhile, the girl was playing on a handheld video game and drinking a frappuccino! yeah....that girl is in a totally great home. smh.

Karen Sykes
Karen Sykes

This is not the solution.

Nelle Douville
Nelle Douville

My cousin was a large child, very large...I grew up next door to his family, and I liked his parents. My cousin died in February (he is a year younger than me) due to a blood clot, but from the age of 13 onward...he lost the weight, he went to the Air Force Academy, played football there under Bill Parcells one year, and then to a successful career in financial services.

When there are issues, social services needs to do a comprehensive review of the circumstances, and make decisions with a lot of facts. If we start removing children who are too heavy, what else? Do we evaluate the meals parents prepare? Do we evaluate if the parents drink? If their kids are in day care? if the children have their own bedroom?

Where does it end?

Laura Jeffcoat
Laura Jeffcoat

Dr. David Ludwig is an idiot...

Michelle Hopkins
Michelle Hopkins

Childhood obesity is just one of the more obvious ways some parents err (and there ARE other contributing factors). What are we going to do about all the other factors that are less than perfect?

Jacklin Hinds Goines
Jacklin Hinds Goines

A child's weight should be monitored by their Dr. An overweight child & their parent/s should have mandatory plans set in place. the schook nurse should have record of this as well so there is proper feedback. Otherwise, why would it not be considered child endangerment. Obesity can cause severe health issues that can result in death.

Janelle Whye
Janelle Whye

why is this even a question?! smh

Peggy Fallon
Peggy Fallon

No, the family should be observed/monitored and the parents given the tools and knowledge to help them raise healthy children.

Allison Bayes Bertolasi
Allison Bayes Bertolasi

Until the FDA quits putting all the crap in our food supply and says it's okay to eat, then no. Too much corn syrup, salt and fats in just about everything that is easy for parents to feed their children. I cook everything homemade and it's expensive as hell. The healthy foods like fresh meats, veggies and fruit are much more expensive then the junk sold.