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I was talking to a friend once about how I was trying to communicate something to my then boyfriend and figure out how we could move forward from it. There was a dynamic in the relationship that wasn't working, so I was talking to him about it, and also considering some reasonable adjustments to my own behavior to change the dynamic.

"Oh, so you're trying to change him! You can't change someone - you have to take them how they are!"

OK, I remember when I first learned the adage that you can't change another person. It was in reference to domestic abuse and drug addicts. I'm not kidding. And yes, if your partner is violent, I definitely suggest you not go into the relationship thinking your love is going to bring them around.

But the truth is that people *do* change within relationships - they have to. Relationships are based on compromise and learning to live with one another. If no one ever changed, you'd be looking for an absolute perfect puzzle piece - and that's just silly. Not only that, but the best relationships do challenge you to change, to rise to the relationship and possibly become a better person.

Now, you may date someone who refuses to change one bit, while you bend and twist like a pretzel. Maybe that's not the best relationship for you, and maybe you should leave. But going into a relationship with no expectation that the partners are going to evolve is just as silly as thinking you and your love can bring a truly dysfunctional person around.

Oh, wait, I totally forgot that you shouldn't have any expectations! Riiiiight...

Because if you release your expectations, then you'll never be let down. Here's the thing. That's a big old load of crap. The simple fact is, that the best relationships - romantic and otherwise - are ones where you DO have expectations and they are met more often than not.

Like most good advice, when I started learning about managing one's expectations there was some sense in it. Some people have ridiculously high expectations and completely freak out when those unrealistic expectations aren't met. So maybe you do need to tune your expectations into reality if that's the case. But *no* expectations? At all? Ever?

Sorry, that's absurd. I can surround myself with responsible, caring, common sense people who meet my - very reasonable - expectations, so why would I bother with someone who's just going to continually let me down?

And finally, a word about ultimatums. We are advised against them because they can be used to pressure and manipulate. And in that case, I agree, don't go there. But *never* an ultimatum? What happens if you really do need to leave the relationship if it's not going somewhere? Simpler example, what if you really aren't going to have sex without a condom? That's an ultimatum.

Ultimatums exist because you have a strong opinion and absolutely can't go the other way. Honestly, to say one shouldn't ever give an ultimatum is kind of a silencing technique. The trick is, of course, that you have to be stating a true fact, not trying to manipulate in a way you're going to back down from. You have to be ready to walk away if that's what you've said you're going to have to do. At its best, an ultimatum is open and honest communication about your truth. And if that's the way you need to go, I say go there, and if necessary after that, move on. Of course, use this one sparingly.

Too often I see these particular bits of advice - which are sometimes very justified - extended until they are absurd or negative. So I guess what I'm saying is, when it comes to changes within a relationship and expectations and ultimatums, don't be afraid to do what makes the most sense to you, even if it seems to go against a frequently used adage of relationship advice.

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Linky Goodness:

Why relationships don’t work out - from Natalie Lue on Baggage Reclaim

Relationship Gold: How to Keep a Relationship Like New - from Life Learning Today

Relationships and Ultimatums - from Kylie on 31 Woman

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Contributing editor Liz Rizzo also blogs at Everyday Goddess.

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agentsully 5 pts

Thank you for linking to my article on Relationship Gold!

The link you have is incorrect. Here is the proper link:
http://lifelearningtoday.com/2010/01/21/relationsh... ( http://lifelearningtoday.com/2010/01/21/relationsh... )

Thanks again!
Kris

AgentSully
http://lifelearningtoday.com

Bill Cammack 5 pts

I think the real problem in these situations is the lack of ability to recognize the difference between someone willing to compromise and someone willing to "'Yes' you to death".

If there's a dynamic that's working for them and not working for you, they might not be interested in changing that at all.  The question is whether they're with you so that you can both have the optimum relationship or whether you just happen to fulfill their current needs.  If it's the latter, excessive nagging and excessive attempts to effect change will result in their withdrawal or rebellion.

A lot of people underestimate their SO's potential for selfishness and self-centered behavior & decisions.

Having said that, people definitely CAN change during relationships, assuming the person they're dating matters to them enough or their opinion/intelligence is respected enough to actually be considered a valid point of view.  The attempt MUST be made to change the person's behavior at the very least, if they themselves can't be reached.  They might completely disagree with you about putting their elbows on the table but they might curb their behavior because they know you don't like it and actually give a damn what you think or feel.

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Liz Rizzo 5 pts

So much in life comes down to common sense and gut instinct. Which doesn't mean it isn't still really, really hard to know what's right sometimes!

Liz Rizzo ( http://blogher.org/blog/liz-rizzo )

I blog at Everyday Goddess ( http://everydaygoddess.typepad.com/ ).

Liz Rizzo 5 pts

Hi Anita,

I'm so sorry you're going through a divorce. And yes, I agree, if one partner is doing all the work, while the other gets to never change, never compromise, that hardly seems fair at all. "Need for the relationship" doesn't sound very good either - although I TOTALLY get that it's SO difficult to walk away when you love someone.  I hope you get through your divorce to many happy times with people who are more willing to fully participate in their relationships.

Hang in there,

Liz Rizzo ( http://blogher.org/blog/liz-rizzo )

I blog at Everyday Goddess ( http://everydaygoddess.typepad.com/ ).

frenchpetal 5 pts

If you are constantly having to work at it because of your "need" for the relationship, then you end up looking like a sucker.  If men aren't into the relationship the same way (as far as wanting to evolve, or move forward in a healthier compromising way) then you are a loser to expect it.

Anita (In the middle of a nasty divorce, can't you tell?)

Crabby McSlacker 5 pts

It happens so often that a helpful principle gets turned into some sort of ridiculous black and white rule.  I totally agree that there's a lot of middle ground between having high expectations and insisting others change to meet them, versus having no expectations at all.